Jagiellonian Medical School Class 2020

[kriyz]

Hey guys! Got my acceptance today. Are we still doing the Facebook thing?

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[36MD]

Hey guys! Got my acceptance today. Are we still doing the Facebook thing?

Congrats! Not sure

 

[Robotneurologist]

If you guys don't end up doing a FB group don't worry the incoming 2nd years should set up a group for you guys like we did for them. And they'll make a combined group for your class and theirs for you guys to ask for help when you need it.

 

[AlePrime]

Congrats. I have my second interview by phone on the 5th. Any advice?

 

[kriyz]

I just had the one interview (Skype based) . What I have heard is that the phone interview is just a longer first interview but just a little bit more in depth about your personal life . So not to worry

 

[kriyz]

Congrats! Not sure

Thank you! will be a big move for most of us I assume .. Potentially bigger for me

 

[AlePrime]

Thank you! will be a big move for most of us I assume .. Potentially bigger for me

Agreed, just nice to know we're not alone in a certain sense.

 

[kriyz]

Agreed, just nice to know we're not alone in a certain sense.

Very. It's very exciting too. And as I said i don't think you need to worry about the phone interview too much, as it is pretty much a discussion like the first interview.

 

[kriyz]

Congrats! Not sure

Any contacts will be cool too

 

[alicek2]

Hey guys! Got my acceptance today. Are we still doing the Facebook thing?

Hey Congrats! I have heard that the 2nd years will make a FB group so I haven't started one yet... If it gets to the end of the month and there isn't one yet I can start one Looking forward to meeting everyone. Is anyone else planning to live in the residence?

 

[kriyz]

Hey Congrats! I have heard that the 2nd years will make a FB group so I haven't started one yet... If it gets to the end of the month and there isn't one yet I can start one Looking forward to meeting everyone. Is anyone else planning to live in the residence?

Thanks ! You too I was planning to live there.. I've read that people stay there for a bit and then move out when they find a nice apartment

 

[bigndude]

Hi guys, I was accepted to JU.. but I'm interested only in ortho/plastic surgery in the US, for which no reported graduates matched into... from personal anecdotes/experience, what are the chances of this working out? There were a number of general surgery matches, but that's it.

It IS possible, it has happened before. Several years ago someone matched into ortho in the US, and people have gone into plastics using the long route (Gen surg-->plastics). BUT, you haven't even started med school and those are 2 VERY different specialties, along with CT Surgery (a dying specialty). I went into UJ thinking I would do Plastics... I'm now a rheumatology fellow. Why, because I realized that is where my heart is, and that is what I like most.

Potentially, whereas I haven't seen many great residency matches from Jag i've seen some decent and surprising ones including to some Ivy League programs in less competitive residencies coming from the Caribbean. Much larger numbers from the Caribbean do play a role here. One benefit is the Caribbean students do 2 years in the states. The other benefit is that they are with a large number of americans which means rumors and news and advice travels much easier and because they have the track record, they have alumni who can sometimes help. I'm only referring to the big 4 schools, St. Georges primarily.

Its not that I don't recommend the medical school there, but if you look at it from the facts alone, at Jag you are doing all 4 years in Poland, Eastern Europe as a whole does not have the same kind of medical reputation that Western Europe does, at least when it comes to US PIs who are often living in a state of mind 10-30 yrs in the past. With some schools in Ireland, the UK and Australia, some US PIs will have done research with doctors from those schools you are applying from and so may have a more favourable view towards them. The program as a whole is small as well, which means not as much exposure to the states in general.

You can still match and honestly if you are sitting on an offer you might as well take it especially if your bottom line is you want to be a doc, you are willing to be told where to live for the next 6-10 yrs of your life and you are willing to pack up move abroad and learn Polish.

I don't know how badly you want plastics or ortho, but be honest with yourself, if you haven't actually done more than 2 weeks of either you can't really say you really want it. All you can say is you like the sound of it. If you haven't done a lot of research in either field and are saying you might be interested, its not a horrible idea to just go Jag, you might match you never know or you might also change ur specialty of choice when you go through medical school.

If you are dead set, lets say you've done 2 yrs of ortho research, you've shadowed the doc you broke your bone as a child and your ortho saved your butt and you are super serious about ortho then you might want to consider going to school the states. Even if it means beefing up your resume doing one of those (med) masters programs that lets you get into the med school if you do well or something.

I don't particularly recommend the Caribbean, i'm just saying a school like SGU might be slightly better than Jag when it comes to matching because there are probably people who have done it before.

There are very good matches from UJ. We have several people at Cleveland Clinic, Mayo Clinic, Yale, many many other university programs.

I came from UJ and just completed my residency at a University program and was just as well, if not better prepared than many Carib + USMDs.
You clearly don't know about the program/school. You do 4 years there yes, but during your 4th year a LARGE portion is spent in the US or Canada doing rotations, and they have very strong affiliations (Cleveland Clinic, UCLA, URoch, etc). The Carib schools are largely in 2nd rate NYC hospitals and other random places.
As far as reputation, I've been told by PDs they would rather take someone from Poland and UJ than no name other schools. The school has existed since the 1300's its doing something right...

As far as the rest, see above. People have matched into both of those (ortho + plastics). It is all up to how much work you want to put in.

 

[McDreamy2]

I came from UJ and just completed my residency at a University program and was just as well, if not better prepared than many Carib + USMDs. You clearly don't know about the program/school. You do 4 years there yes, but during your 4th year a LARGE portion is spent in the US or Canada doing rotations, and they have very strong affiliations (Cleveland Clinic, UCLA, URoch, etc).

How many months are you allowed to do rotations in the US/Canada during 4th year? Did you apply for residency at the beginning of 4th year? If so, were you able to do rotations and obtain LORs during the summer before 4th year?

 

[Robotneurologist]

How many months are you allowed to do rotations in the US/Canada during 4th year? Did you apply for residency at the beginning of 4th year? If so, were you able to do rotations and obtain LORs during the summer before 4th year?

Not bigndude but I can help you out here. You can basically have up to 5 months of your 4th year in the states. This is unless you specifically want to do your residency in NY as they have a 3 month limit on rotations outside of your home country. As far as LORs most of the just graduated 4th years I talked to did have to get their letters in during those first couple months (July-Sept) before ERAS opened. But they all said that they did not have any trouble getting letters as a lot of rotations can be pretty short and your attendings know that you're looking for a letter. Of course most people also got a letter or two before starting their 4th year rotations.

 

[bigndude]

How many months are you allowed to do rotations in the US/Canada during 4th year? Did you apply for residency at the beginning of 4th year? If so, were you able to do rotations and obtain LORs during the summer before 4th year?

Most people did July-->late January as a period of rotations, and threw in some free time for interviews + vacation etc. Maybe things have changed, I graduated in 2013.
I applied for residency right when applications opened up in the beginning of my 4th year. Got my letters from early rotations and one from Poland.

 

[AlePrime]

Most people did July-->late January as a period of rotations, and threw in some free time for interviews + vacation etc. Maybe things have changed, I graduated in 2013.
I applied for residency right when applications opened up in the beginning of my 4th year. Got my letters from early rotations and one from Poland.

Thanks for the info bigndude. I'm glad to hear Jag has graduates stepping into residency placements back home.

Hey Congrats! I have heard that the 2nd years will make a FB group so I haven't started one yet... If it gets to the end of the month and there isn't one yet I can start one Looking forward to meeting everyone. Is anyone else planning to live in the residence?

Got my acceptance two days ago. Haven't sent in my admissions document just yet, waiting for my skype interview on Monday for St. George's, but as of now, my eyes are set for UJ. I will most likely look into getting into the dorms as well.

Also, for the upperclassmen. Are the dormitories shared? It says single units two rooms, not sure if that means a single unit for two persons.

 

[Robotneurologist]

Thanks for the info bigndude. I'm glad too hear Jag has graduates stepping into residency placements back home.



Got my acceptance two days ago. Haven't sent in my admissions document just yet, waiting for my skype interview on Monday for St. George's, but as of now, my eyes are set for UJ. I will most likely look into getting into the dorms as well.

Also, for the upperclassmen. Are the dormitories shared? It says single units two rooms, not sure if that means a single unit for two persons.

The dorms are fine. You basically share a unit with someone else meaning you have your own room with a bed/desk/closet and you share a kitchenette and bathroom with one other person.

 

[Medstart108]

It IS possible, it has happened before. Several years ago someone matched into ortho in the US, and people have gone into plastics using the long route (Gen surg-->plastics). BUT, you haven't even started med school and those are 2 VERY different specialties, along with CT Surgery (a dying specialty). I went into UJ thinking I would do Plastics... I'm now a rheumatology fellow. Why, because I realized that is where my heart is, and that is what I like most.



There are very good matches from UJ. We have several people at Cleveland Clinic, Mayo Clinic, Yale, many many other university programs.

I came from UJ and just completed my residency at a University program and was just as well, if not better prepared than many Carib + USMDs.
You clearly don't know about the program/school. You do 4 years there yes, but during your 4th year a LARGE portion is spent in the US or Canada doing rotations, and they have very strong affiliations (Cleveland Clinic, UCLA, URoch, etc). The Carib schools are largely in 2nd rate NYC hospitals and other random places.
As far as reputation, I've been told by PDs they would rather take someone from Poland and UJ than no name other schools. The school has existed since the 1300's its doing something right...

As far as the rest, see above. People have matched into both of those (ortho + plastics). It is all up to how much work you want to put in.

CT surgery is not a dying specialty, not sure what you are talking about. Cardiac is getting involved in TAVIs, the population is aging, Thoracics has plenty of cases and more and more people are getting cardiac issues later and later.

Regarding everything else, i'm sure there might be the occasional match to a competitive specialty, but I have not seen Jag publish its match results and rates, and without that, most of it is just anecdotes.

 

[Mad Jack]

CT surgery is not a dying specialty, not sure what you are talking about. Cardiac is getting involved in TAVIs, the population is aging, Thoracics has plenty of cases and more and more people are getting cardiac issues later and later.

Regarding everything else, i'm sure there might be the occasional match to a competitive specialty, but I have not seen Jag publish its match results and rates, and without that, most of it is just anecdotes.

They used to publish their matches, surprising that they haven't recently.

 

[bigndude]

CT surgery is not a dying specialty, not sure what you are talking about. Cardiac is getting involved in TAVIs, the population is aging, Thoracics has plenty of cases and more and more people are getting cardiac issues later and later.

Regarding everything else, i'm sure there might be the occasional match to a competitive specialty, but I have not seen Jag publish its match results and rates, and without that, most of it is just anecdotes.

Email the school and they will give you this list of matches. Or you know, just search various residency programs around the country and see where graduates are training. Good places.

I don't understand what you are doing on this forum discussing this anyways you are a Canadian med student, worry about passing exams and matching, not about where people go to med school.

As far as CT surgery dying, yes, it is. You are a medical student, get back to me once you have finished residency and then lets chat. Interventional cards + interventional pulm do a lot of what they used to do. The trend nowadays is less invasive. This is why there have been spots remaining in CT surgery residency match past few years. CT surgery doesn't do TAVRs, interventional cards does. Interventional pulm also does thoracoscopy, argon laster etc etc. Most of my thoracic patients were pts who have a procedure done by a general+thoracic specialist, the CT guys mostly do valves + cabg's nowadays, both of which there are much less of. There will always be a need for some of them, today the number required is just much less. Dying field. Hell, there are articles written about it.

Future proof specialties: Ortho, IM, Gen Surg, Psych.

When you get to the point of making actual decisions about what to do in life you perspective changes from oh that sounds awesome to where you can have a good lifestyle and feel fulfilled. For many idealistic types (myself included) this changes from hardcore (personally, plastics) to something nice and lifestyle friendly (rheum, 4days a week, no weekends, no call)

 

[torontopharm]

They used to publish their matches, surprising that they haven't recently.

Stats for 2015 is up on their site. But yeah 2016 isn't up yet. May be they're waiting for students to report their results first?

 

[Mad Jack]

Stats for 2015 is up on their site. But yeah 2016 isn't up yet. May be they're waiting for students to report their results first?

A lot of schools lag on getting things up. Plus a lot of Jag students go elsewhere in Europe, where placement works differently, so maybe they just haven't been placed yet because of that.

 

[elenabelle]

cool \

 

[Robotneurologist]

Stats for 2015 is up on their site. But yeah 2016 isn't up yet. May be they're waiting for students to report their results first?

The school office hasn't put it up yet but we had the graduating 4th years had a presentation on the match statistics earlier this year. If you all really want it I can dig it up and post everything they said but it came down to out of 20 students in their class; 18 matched, 1 canadian at McGill (I forgot what he matched), 7-8 students at rochester NY (ranging from peds to radio), one guy in NJ for surg, and two in the UK because they prefer the European lifestyle. One of the guys who didn't match solely applied to Canada w/o applying to the US as a back up which wasn't the best idea.

Thats all I remember off the top of my head but as I said I can look it up if absolutely need be.

Also agreeing w/ bigndude that CT is dying. Everyone knows that yes hospitals still need one of two CT surgeons around in case invasive procedures go south but its not nearly as popular as it was 10-15 years ago and there is less and less demand for it.

 

[kriyz]

Well looks like 2016/2017 list is out. Congratulations to everyone to making it in! And wow there's some impressive scores on that.. Looks like a great class

 

[alicek2]

Well looks like 2016/2017 list is out. Congratulations to everyone to making it in! And wow there's some impressive scores on that.. Looks like a great class

Cool! Do peoples OAS account numbers line up with those on the page? Mine begins with a 5 but isn't on the list. I think I know which person I am because of my GPA and MCAT score but the OAS number is different...

 

[goldfisheyes]

It's the OAS number from when you first activated your account, I think. Looking back through my emails, it looks like I have two OAS numbers, one that begins with a 5 (like yours) and isn't on the list, and another that is on the list.

 

[36MD]

Well looks like 2016/2017 list is out. Congratulations to everyone to making it in! And wow there's some impressive scores on that.. Looks like a great class

Looking forward to meeting everyone! So exciting! Do they sell sticky notes in Poland?!

 

[torontopharm]

The school office hasn't put it up yet but we had the graduating 4th years had a presentation on the match statistics earlier this year. If you all really want it I can dig it up and post everything they said but it came down to out of 20 students in their class; 18 matched, 1 canadian at McGill (I forgot what he matched), 7-8 students at rochester NY (ranging from peds to radio), one guy in NJ for surg, and two in the UK because they prefer the European lifestyle. One of the guys who didn't match solely applied to Canada w/o applying to the US as a back up which wasn't the best idea.

Those are great stats. You don't have to sell me the legitimacy of Jag!
I should mention though, UK and Irish internships are virtually impossible to get being a non-EU citizen. I know you didn't imply that as being an option, but i wanted to throw it out there for anyone reading. Polish internships also require passing a Polish proficiency exam and LEK which is a poorly written exam most English speaking students fail. If you're a non EU citizen, you must go to Jag (or other Polish schools for that matter) with the "North America or Bust" mindset.

 

[Robotneurologist]

Those are great stats. You don't have to sell me the legitimacy of Jag!
I should mention though, UK and Irish internships are virtually impossible to get being a non-EU citizen. I know you didn't imply that as being an option, but i wanted to throw it out there for anyone reading. Polish internships also require passing a Polish proficiency exam and LEK which is a poorly written exam most English speaking students fail. If you're a non EU citizen, you must go to Jag (or other Polish schools for that matter) with the "North America or Bust" mindset.

Oh yeah sorry didn't mention that. Like half of our class has polish/european citizenship so I just forgot. Also I'm pretty sure its going to be even harder by the time you guys graduate even for european citizens due to Brexit.
I also remembered two more matches; one guy in Texas for gas, and two in FM couples matched together into somewhere in Chicago I think but not exactly sure.

Looking forward to meeting everyone! So exciting! Do they sell sticky notes in Poland?!

Yes. XD

 

[kriyz]

Oh crap haha the school dorm bookings are closed? Looks like I gotta find an apartment...

 

[Robotneurologist]

Oh crap haha the school dorm bookings are closed? Looks like I gotta find an apartment...

They're closed for like the next week or two for the massive influx of tourists for World Youth Day. Its going to be insane here. They should be open for the next year. But if you need apartment hunting websites let me know as there are a handful of good ones.

 

[TanawatV]

Has any of you guys bought the books? I don't know if they have like a bookstore for student or we have to order the books online on our own.