Job offer process?

[kindredspirit]

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For those of you who have had experience in the post-residency PM&R job market...

Please share your experiences of how you received your job offer or rejection? Did someone call you and verbally tell you that they want to offer you the position? Did they send you an email? A letter? If you didn't get the position, did they even tell you that they weren't interested?

I interviewed for a position that I am very interested in taking. The process has been going on since May, it is now July. I have interviewed with 3 separate people and was invited to round with the director. I have expressed my interest in the position several times. I am also entertaining a few other opportunities however, I keep putting the "others" off because I am waiting to hear from the 1st choice, the one I would prefer to accept.

At what point should I opt to move-on and pursue the "other" options more aggressively? I don't want to be too pushy or over-eager with the 1st choice as I have already been very clear, in-person verbally and in-writing, that I am interested in their position. On one hand, I really want the position however, I am getting impatient and want to move forward already.

Not sure how to proceed at this point...

 

[RUOkie]

For those of you who have had experience in the post-residency PM&R job market...

Please share your experiences of how you received your job offer or rejection? Did someone call you and verbally tell you that they want to offer you the position? Did they send you an email? A letter? If you didn't get the position, did they even tell you that they weren't interested?

I interviewed for a position that I am very interested in taking. The process has been going on since May, it is now July. I have interviewed with 3 separate people and was invited to round with the director. I have expressed my interest in the position several times. I am also entertaining a few other opportunities however, I keep putting the "others" off because I am waiting to hear from the 1st choice, the one I would prefer to accept.

At what point should I opt to move-on and pursue the "other" options more aggressively? I don't want to be too pushy or over-eager with the 1st choice as I have already been very clear, in-person verbally and in-writing, that I am interested in their position. On one hand, I really want the position however, I am getting impatient and want to move forward already.

Not sure how to proceed at this point...

Chances are, if it has been that long, you don't have the job, and no one is willing to tell you.

Pick up the phone, tell the "director" that you are entertaining other offers, but want that job. Be honest and let them know that you need to move forward with your life.

Before I went solo, I interviewed for a few jobs where I was never given a yes or a no. 2 of them, I called, only to be told "we are working on a decision" and NEVER got another response. No call backs despite multiple messages. I have run into one of these docs at the AAPMR meetings and he can't even look me in the eye.

 

[kindredspirit]

It is so unprofessional. I guess it is to their loss. I believe it is important to never burn your bridges, as you never know when you'll cross a person's path again. I guess they just don't care! And, if they care so little it is probably not an environment worth being a part of.

I think if you take the time to go and interview, you deserve the common decency and respect to at least get a rejection letter in the mail.

 

[PMR 4 MSK]

My first job came down to a private solo, but hospital-supported position vs an academic job. I let money choose for me and chose private.

The private one first did a video-interview. This was back in the dark ages and I had to go a Kinkos that was set up for it - very high-tech for 1999. Then they invited me down there. They gave me a copy of the contract to review, but said that the formal contract would be mailed after the CEO and his minions met and made a decision - they called me a few days later to formally offer the job.

The academic job wanted me, but I chicken-****ted out and emailed them a decline.

When I was leaving the first job, I phone-interviewed several places, and really liked what I heard about the one I have now. They invited me for an on-site visit and gave me the contract before I left. I signed it a few days later.

In my experience, limited as it is, if they want you, you get the contract quickly. If not, move on.

As above, if you really like this job, let them know, but both tell them if they do not reply soon you will need to move on, and actually do it. The more they know you want it, the worse the offer may be.

 

[Jitter Bug]

Be honest. Call the first people you really want to work with, and ask for an update, and what is their timeline for making a decision? Tell them you have received another serious offer that you will accept if the first group is no longer interested.

Your favorite group may be waiting to fly in some other candidate who isn't coming to visit for 3 months. Can you wait? Would you want to? What if they like this guy better and now you have nothing?

Remember you have **nothing*** until you have a signed contract. I agree with previous posters, if they want you they pull out the contract pretty quick. I signed a contract in November of my PGY4 for a job starting the following August.

As for timelines, academic groups tend to make hiring decision slowly on a yearly cycle, knowing new grads aren't available until July, so not unusual that they ask you to wait a few months while they check out other people. But you should be able to get a commitment and signed contract by late spring.

Private groups like to strike hard and fast. Why should they wait? They usually know what they like and if the see it they pounce. More likely to have a few rounds of interviews, and an offer pretty quickly, followed by contract review/negotiations if you make a verbal agreement to move toward a hiring.

 

[PMR 4 MSK]

Be honest. Call the first people you really want to work with, and ask for an update, and what is their timeline for making a decision? Tell them you have received another serious offer that you will accept if the first group is no longer interested.

Your favorite group may be waiting to fly in some other candidate who isn't coming to visit for 3 months. Can you wait? Would you want to? What if they like this guy better and now you have nothing?

Remember you have **nothing*** until you have a signed contract. I agree with previous posters, if they want you they pull out the contract pretty quick. I signed a contract in November of my PGY4 for a job starting the following August.

As for timelines, academic groups tend to make hiring decision slowly on a yearly cycle, knowing new grads aren't available until July, so not unusual that they ask you to wait a few months while they check out other people. But you should be able to get a commitment and signed contract by late spring.

Private groups like to strike hard and fast. Why should they wait? They usually know what they like and if the see it they pounce. More likely to have a few rounds of interviews, and an offer pretty quickly, followed by contract review/negotiations if you make a verbal agreement to move toward a hiring.

Especially the last paragraph, this has been my exact personal experience.