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cheekiemunky

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I'm a premed student who is interested in psychiatry (and only psychiatry). I have a sister who is in medical school and have friends and family who are physicians and I am well aware of how hard and long of a road it is. But still, reading this thread ( http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=646866 ) scares the crap out of me. As psych residents and attendings, are you as miserable in your work as those people?
 
I'm a premed student who is interested in psychiatry (and only psychiatry). I have a sister who is in medical school and have friends and family who are physicians and I am well aware of how hard and long of a road it is. But still, reading this thread ( http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=646866 ) scares the crap out of me. As psych residents and attendings, are you as miserable in your work as those people?


Read a few threads here....
 
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My job satisfaction is very high. I was miserable like those people during 3rd year of med school and half of internship, but once you get to psych, it's an awesome field (provided you are interested in psych in the first place).
 
Nothing better. I get up every morning and get to think that "today, I get to practice Psychiatry." And that makes it a good day.
 
Don't worry. All of my colleagues from residency and fellowship have high job / life satisfaction. Some are residency directors, others are researchers, some do private practice, and they are all quite happy with their lives.

I have very nice hours for a physician, I make really good money, my employer goes the extra mile to make me feel appreciated, and I'm in a high demand/ highly specialized niche. I also see less than 8-10 patients a day. I also have a strong multi disciplinary team that makes my work easier.

There are many paths to career related happiness but this is what I emphasized for myself.

1) pursue residency training at top notch programs (there is less of a regionalized effect in psychiatry. You can go anywhere you want if you are good. Train at the best places, worry later about where to live). You don't have to go to a top notch medical school. For doctors, it's all about where you train for residency.

2) Find a niche - instead of a jack of all trades approach, find something you are passionate about that has high demand. This will increase your career opportunities and demand for your services.

3) Stay on the cutting edge - this kind of relates to 1). Unfortunately in mental health, mediocrity thrives for various reasons and everyone thinks they can do more than they are capable of. Being wedded to some kind of academic interest (learn how to read journals, how to incorporate evidence based practice, etc) will keep you fresh and on top of your game. Even if you are not going to do research, you need to have an academic mind. Psychiatry is science first, art second in my opinion.

4) Learn therapy - it's not hard but takes practice (many less qualified than you can do it, so don't be daunted).


Hope this helps.
 
I do think that psychiatrists are spared some of the misery that other specialties are subjected to. The only caution I would make is to do whatever you can to get exposure to the mental health professions prior to med school and make sure you truly like the reality of psych enough to go through what med school requires.
If psych is the only part of medicine you enjoy, you probably will find the first three years of med school more tedious than most people do since the majority of stuff you have to focus on in those years involves the other fields of medicine. It would really be lousy to go through all that and then come to realize on your 3rd year psych clerkship that psych isn't enjoyable/interesting enough to you to be worth it.
 
I do think that psychiatrists are spared some of the misery that other specialties are subjected to. The only caution I would make is to do whatever you can to get exposure to the mental health professions prior to med school and make sure you truly like the reality of psych enough to go through what med school requires.
If psych is the only part of medicine you enjoy, you probably will find the first three years of med school more tedious than most people do since the majority of stuff you have to focus on in those years involves the other fields of medicine. It would really be lousy to go through all that and then come to realize on your 3rd year psych clerkship that psych isn't enjoyable/interesting enough to you to be worth it.

seconded. I couldn't possibly imagine what that was like. I happen to enjoy a lot of areas of medicine, but knew I was headed psych before I started med school. That made third year a lot more fun than for a few of my compatriots that were also hardcore psych but didn't enjoy general medicine.

I should also say that you should probably learn to enjoy (or at least to become competent at) other aspects of medicine. I find the idea of finding myself having to say 'oh you have a sore throat? let me call a medicine consult (inpatient) or you'll have to schedule an appointment with your PCP (outpatient) for that.
 
Don't worry. All of my colleagues from residency and fellowship have high job / life satisfaction. Some are residency directors, others are researchers, some do private practice, and they are all quite happy with their lives.

I have very nice hours for a physician, I make really good money, my employer goes the extra mile to make me feel appreciated, and I'm in a high demand/ highly specialized niche. I also see less than 8-10 patients a day. I also have a strong multi disciplinary team that makes my work easier.

There are many paths to career related happiness but this is what I emphasized for myself.

1) pursue residency training at top notch programs (there is less of a regionalized effect in psychiatry. You can go anywhere you want if you are good. Train at the best places, worry later about where to live). You don't have to go to a top notch medical school. For doctors, it's all about where you train for residency.

2) Find a niche - instead of a jack of all trades approach, find something you are passionate about that has high demand. This will increase your career opportunities and demand for your services.

3) Stay on the cutting edge - this kind of relates to 1). Unfortunately in mental health, mediocrity thrives for various reasons and everyone thinks they can do more than they are capable of. Being wedded to some kind of academic interest (learn how to read journals, how to incorporate evidence based practice, etc) will keep you fresh and on top of your game. Even if you are not going to do research, you need to have an academic mind. Psychiatry is science first, art second in my opinion.

4) Learn therapy - it's not hard but takes practice (many less qualified than you can do it, so don't be daunted).


Hope this helps.


Great advice for us all!

What is your niche?
 
I do think that psychiatrists are spared some of the misery that other specialties are subjected to. The only caution I would make is to do whatever you can to get exposure to the mental health professions prior to med school and make sure you truly like the reality of psych enough to go through what med school requires.
If psych is the only part of medicine you enjoy, you probably will find the first three years of med school more tedious than most people do since the majority of stuff you have to focus on in those years involves the other fields of medicine. It would really be lousy to go through all that and then come to realize on your 3rd year psych clerkship that psych isn't enjoyable/interesting enough to you to be worth it.

I should clarify: I find all medicine interesting and think the human body is fascinating (and I really enjoy science). What I meant was that psych is the only specialty I can imagine myself being content with practicing for life.

Everyone was really helpful, thanks guys. I feel much better about it now.
 
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Done.

Just out of curiosity... and you're more than welcome to answer with "none of your damn business," but how old exactly is an Old Psych Doc? Just wondering.

a) older than dirt.
b) old enough to be your dad.
c) old enough to be an apple-cheeked 7 year old listening to Walter Cronkite narrate the space program.
d) as Doc Samson suggested, old enough to be Jesus' attending in med school. 🙄
e) all of the above.
😉
 
a) older than dirt.
b) old enough to be your dad.
c) old enough to be an apple-cheeked 7 year old listening to Walter Cronkite narrate the space program.
d) as Doc Samson suggested, old enough to be Jesus' attending in med school. 🙄
e) all of the above.
😉


Old enough to have your birthday in Roman numerals?

(My last manic patient did that, helped me fill in paperwork and used Roman numerals for all (!) numbers, including postcode, tel and SSN. Love it when that happens...)
 
When I think of all the things I could've done differently, there's a lot of things....
Geez, reminds me of high school where I had 4 very attractive girls after me at various times, to the point where it was blatantly obvious, & I didn't do anything about it because I was too insecure. Nuts......

However going into psychiatry is the one those things at least for me that I have always felt was exactly the right thing for me, and to the degree where it was worth the years of medical school hell.

Trust me, I hated medical school. I hated the pre-med weed out process I endured through college. I hated professors who couldn't teach, but were earning the university a few million through research, so the university tolerated their inability to teach. I hated those idiot professors who mentioned that X would not be on the exam, then it was on the exam. I hated those science exams where the mean grade was a 40%-with a very messed up standard deviation showing that pretty much most of the class was not getting a fair grade--yet several people's potential medical careers were being blown out of the water by this idiot professor that could not teach, nor could properly make a fair test. I hated those professors who were the science nimrod, and held it against you if you actually had a warm personality......(Shall I go on?)

I can't guarantee that it'll be worth it for you in the end. I've known a few people who were determined to do a field for years, then when they actually started it, they didn't like it. What a heck of a price to pay, and journey to go through to finally work in the field and not like it. At least for me--the dream & the reality fit together.
 
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Thanks for your posts in this thread - it is very reassuring. I loved my psychiatry rotation but when many of the other doctors in the other rotations talk about how horrible psychiatry is (I guess this is why they work in different areas), it really makes me wonder whether it is such a good idea. I still want to do it, though. 🙂