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LADoc00

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I showed up to an interview yesterday with migraine headache and after they introduced themselves handed me a stack of cases with the clinical history and told me to write down my thoughts on them. It was timed. Im not joking, I nearly dumped in my drawers. It wasnt acute cholecystitis either, were talking epitheloid hemangioendothelioma of bone/melanoma of soft parts (with no immuno support mind you, pure H+E impression) level of difficulty. They prefaced it by saying the 3 prior applicants who were community pathologists for >10 years had gone down in flames on the cases the weeks prior.
 
LADoc00 said:
I showed up to an interview yesterday with migraine headache and after they introduced themselves handed me a stack of cases with the clinical history and told me to write down my thoughts on them. It was timed. Im not joking, I nearly dumped in my drawers. It wasnt acute cholecystitis either, were talking epitheloid hemangioendothelioma of bone/melanoma of soft parts (with no immuno support mind you, pure H+E impression) level of difficulty. They prefaced it by saying the 3 prior applicants who were community pathologists for >10 years had gone down in flames on the cases the weeks prior.

What kind of an interview was this for?
 
geddy said:
What kind of an interview was this for?

The smart a$$ in me wants to respond: What job do you think? Chief of Family Practice at Bayview.

But I wont be a smarta$$ for right now, it was a semi-academic general path position.
 
Wow, that sounds intense! Any idea how you performed?

How is the rest of the job hunt going?
 
cytoborg said:
Wow, that sounds intense! Any idea how you performed?

Hmm it was luck, basically I can morph into a demigod on soft tissue when needed (but I hate using my super powers unless absolutely necessary) and happened to have memorized Unni's 1996 AJSP review article on epitheloid hemangioendotheliomas of bone (HIGHLY recommended). Also, my hobby entails collecting soft parts sarcoma cases. So I slid by and got the job. Not bad 200K+ with tons of vacation(3 months) and only 1500 cases/yr to sign out. Thats like semi-retirement.
 
LADoc00 said:
Hmm it was luck, basically I can morph into a demigod on soft tissue when needed (but I hate using my super powers unless absolutely necessary) and happened to have memorized Unni's 1996 AJSP review article on epitheloid hemangioendotheliomas of bone (HIGHLY recommended). Also, my hobby entails collecting soft parts sarcoma cases. So I slid by and got the job. Not bad 200K+ with tons of vacation(3 months) and only 1500 cases/yr to sign out. Thats like semi-retirement.

It's good to be the king. 😉
 
LADoc00 said:
So I slid by and got the job. Not bad 200K+ with tons of vacation(3 months) and only 1500 cases/yr to sign out. Thats like semi-retirement.

What happened to the terrible job market? 😉

1500 cases a year isn't so bad. I had to preview about 1500 cases just for the slide session with Dr Kurman tomorrow morning. And they were all the same freakin' diagnosis. Partial mole. Partial mole. Partial mole. Hey, wait! Complete Mole! No, sorry. Partial mole.

I want 3 months of vacation!
 
LADoc00 said:
Hmm it was luck, basically I can morph into a demigod on soft tissue when needed (but I hate using my super powers unless absolutely necessary) and happened to have memorized Unni's 1996 AJSP review article on epitheloid hemangioendotheliomas of bone (HIGHLY recommended). Also, my hobby entails collecting soft parts sarcoma cases. So I slid by and got the job. Not bad 200K+ with tons of vacation(3 months) and only 1500 cases/yr to sign out. Thats like semi-retirement.

Congrats! That's great! 😀
 
cytoborg said:
Congrats! That's great! 😀


congrats ladocc
somehow your pessimism regarding the job market seems to be misplaced.....are you happy or still peeved with pathology? im curious...
regards
quant
 
LADoc00 said:
were talking epitheloid hemangioendothelioma of bone/melanoma of soft parts (with no immuno support mind you, pure H+E impression) level of difficulty. They prefaced it by saying the 3 prior applicants who were community pathologists for >10 years had gone down in flames on the cases the weeks prior.
Wow LADoc! 😱 Really hope I can be like you one day... It's going to take a while though. Congrats on the job - you deserve it after all you've been through!!
 
Out of curiosity,

What does "semi-academic" mean?

I want to go into pure academics and would love to start at 200 K a year with 3 months vacation.
 
👍 Cograts LADoc00,
Thanks for sharing. I believe you've been around for awhile though haven't you? I mean outside of residency this is not your first job, right?
 
Job interview no2 synoposis.

After describing my "timed test" at my earlier interview, the second group I looked at told me they thought that was ridiculous and I quote 'I would walk away from anyone who did that to me on an interview.' So Im chillin, pontificating on my elaborate knowledge of B-cell specific transcription factors (PAX-5, BOB-1 and OCT-2 etc.) and how I think all flow labs should have ZAP-70 thinking I had this one in the bag. I was pure charm...or so I thought.

They had a "conference" where they all brought their most difficult cases (6 or so partners) when they plopped down the first slide, inflammatory lung then turned to me and said, ok what is it? HUH. I HATE inflammatory lung, for the love of God, surg path directors struggle with some of these cases and send em to Tom Colby at Mayo in the end. Lymphocytic bronchiolitis I can handle, extranodal marginal zone sure...So I sweated it out for like 3 minutes saying um um um....Then blurted out UIP, who the hell knows what it is, UIP requires a clinicopathologic and radiologic correlation. They seemed to like that. Next case: prostate, bingo I nailed it. Next case: NLPHL, easy. etc. To make a long story short, although they didnt have an actual test set, having to make the diagnosis in front of 6 people in an interview setting is far worse.

I was less confident this time, wont know for a week or so. But I was introduced to new and exciting concepts:
-Free food, not free lunch here and there, free food whenever you want it, free coffee, free produce, free bagels, free 5 dollah odwalla shakes, 7 days a week, 14 hours day. I was like damn, THIS ROCKS!! 😀
-Having to live less than 5 miles from medical center. Some groups have contracts where you cant live further than x distance and be on call. 😴
-Having to buy or bring your own microscope (earlier interview), yes I actually witnessed a guy who had shown up the same week I interviewed to start his new job not realizing this was a BYOM (bring your own microscope) party and was SOL. :laugh:
-AP only people doing CP stuff and Im not talking SPEPs, Im talking running a blood center!....Personally, that frightens me. Sort of like asking a surgical pathologist to burr holes in someone's head for neurotraumas. 😱
 
governaitor said:
Out of curiosity,

What does "semi-academic" mean?

I want to go into pure academics and would love to start at 200 K a year with 3 months vacation.

Semi-academic>>Pure academics IMO

Semi-acas are like VA hospitals, county facilities and affiliates associated with big medical schools where they CAN do research if they want, but it doesnt affect their progression through the ranks. Pay is usually much higher, better benes, time off etc. 😎
 
LADoc00 said:
But I was introduced to new and exciting concepts:
-Free food, not free lunch here and there, free food whenever you want it, free coffee, free produce, free bagels, free 5 dollah odwalla shakes, 7 days a week, 14 hours day. I was like damn, THIS ROCKS!! 😀
-Having to live less than 5 miles from medical center. Some groups have contracts where you cant live further than x distance and be on call. 😴
-Having to buy or bring your own microscope (earlier interview), yes I actually witnessed a guy who had shown up the same week I interviewed to start his new job not realizing this was a BYOM (bring your own microscope) party and was SOL. :laugh:
-AP only people doing CP stuff and Im not talking SPEPs, Im talking running a blood center!....Personally, that frightens me. Sort of like asking a surgical pathologist to burr holes in someone's head for neurotraumas. 😱

- At the free food place: How much did the average pathologist weigh? I love the idea, but, geez, I'd gain so much weight.
- Less than 5 miles seems so harsh. Would have to play golf on the medical center lawn. Set up a tent on the hospital grounds. At least wouldn't have to deal with a commute or polluting the environment.
- BYOM? How bizarre is that? Never thought I'd have to shop for my own scope.
 
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