Joining the Peace Corps before or after med school?

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I really want to join the Peace Corps at some point (for a full 27 month term), but I'm trying to see how it'll work out with timing. If I do it right after undergrad, it could maybe help me get into med school (not that this has anything to do with my reason for joining); however, I would have to make sure my MCAT score will still be valid and that I wouldn't completely forget everything I learned in undergrad.
If I do it right after medical school, I would have more relevant experience to join the Peace Corps with, but I don't exactly know how it would affect residency + post-med school plans.

Also, I had initially planned on majoring in psychology, but I'm debating on whether or not to major in public health instead since it's slightly more relevant in regards to the Peace Corps (I can't double major because they are in two different colleges within my university). Would it be best to just major in psychology and minor in public health or vice versa? (sorry, kind of a vague question and it probably doesn't matter significantly)

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I really want to join the Peace Corps at some point (for a full 27 month term), but I'm trying to see how it'll work out with timing. If I do it right after undergrad, it could maybe help me get into med school (not that this has anything to do with my reason for joining); however, I would have to make sure my MCAT score will still be valid and that I wouldn't completely forget everything I learned in undergrad.
If I do it right after medical school, I would have more relevant experience to join the Peace Corps with, but I don't exactly know how it would affect residency + post-med school plans.

Also, I had initially planned on majoring in psychology, but I'm debating on whether or not to major in public health instead since it's slightly more relevant in regards to the Peace Corps (I can't double major because they are in two different colleges within my university). Would it be best to just major in psychology and minor in public health or vice versa? (sorry, kind of a vague question and it probably doesn't matter significantly)

I'd do it before. Medical school will change a lot of things. You can't really predict where your life will be after those 4 years. As for the major, it won't make a huge difference, I'd go with whichever I enjoyed the most.
 
Major in anything.... PC will find a way to use you.

I have a good friend who just finished 27 months of service... he did have internet service in Central Asia and it would have been possible to apply from abroad.

I'd think that the strategy would be to deposit letters of recommendation to Interfolio before you leave and get a LOR from a Peace Corps supervisor at the end of your service to round out the packet. Take the MCAT as close to deparature day as possible. Make the application in June/July after service ends or in the months before the end of service (if end of service is in the fall).

Figure on some time to adjust as you re-enter American society. You will end up with an additional gap year and that time can be used for interviews and employment/research.
 
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I really want to join the Peace Corps at some point (for a full 27 month term), but I'm trying to see how it'll work out with timing. If I do it right after undergrad, it could maybe help me get into med school (not that this has anything to do with my reason for joining); however, I would have to make sure my MCAT score will still be valid and that I wouldn't completely forget everything I learned in undergrad.
If I do it right after medical school, I would have more relevant experience to join the Peace Corps with, but I don't exactly know how it would affect residency + post-med school plans.

Also, I had initially planned on majoring in psychology, but I'm debating on whether or not to major in public health instead since it's slightly more relevant in regards to the Peace Corps (I can't double major because they are in two different colleges within my university). Would it be best to just major in psychology and minor in public health or vice versa? (sorry, kind of a vague question and it probably doesn't matter significantly)

I wouldn't recommend joining the Peace Corps after finishing med school. The Peace Corps is a fantastic organization, but they are not equipped to make use of a doctor's skills. If you are an MD, there are other organizations that would put you to better use.

You can join the Peace Corps with any undergrad major, and they should be able to find a use for you. The have volunteers teaching English, math, or sciences, doing small business development, agriculture extension, health education, environmental education, and loads more. Plenty of volunteers end up doing work that they had no particular pre-existing expertise in.

As far as timing goes, it will be tough to take your MCAT before you start your service and still have the scores be valid for matriculating after you finish. It should be possible to take the MCAT halfway through your service, although you will likely need to travel a bit to get to a testing location. I think several of the volunteers I served with in East Africa traveled to Saudi Arabia or South Africa to take their MCATs.

If you are worried about keeping your science knowledge fresh, you could consider aiming for a position teaching science. A lot of volunteers teach science - if you have a science degree and express an interest in teaching, that's usually where they will steer you. If you work as a science teacher for several years, you should find it quite easy to keep your skills sharp and prepare to do great on your MCAT.
 
Definitely before--there are a lot of better ways to volunteer abroad with your skills as a doctor than the Peace Corps. There's a Class of 2016er applying now from abroad with PC, KansasKid. If you can find her around (she has really spotty internet) she could tell you a lot more about it. 🙂
 
Just like everyone else has said, joining after med school doesn't make much sense.
 
I am in my last month of my 27 months of service in the Peace Corps country ranked at the very bottom in terms of difficulty (ie hardest living/work conditions). I am currently applying. I have internet at my house. This took a ton of work a lot of flirting and some fancy computer skillz....

PM me if you want more info. I'll be back stateside in August and more available.

Definitely don't do it after med school. Peace Corps CAN use you as an MD, but the experience is better if you are in a small village and there your MD would mostly go to waste as you are NOT allowed to practice medicine as a volunteer. I served as a "degreed health professional" and lived in a village 3 hours from the capital with a split time assignment. This was really rough....good, but rough. I sometimes wish I had gone directly after undergrad as was the original plan, but life intervened and I wouldn't change things now.

I flew home to take the MCAT..... I took the coursework for the MCAT more than 7 years ago. I pulled a ** so you can definitely get a good score, though I am pretty sure I would have done better had I been able to study from the US. Taking practice tests was impossible without good internet. If you can take it just before you leave and you start applying in your last year (try to get a ship out between March and June so that you will come back just before or after submitting primaries and starting on secondaries) the the scores will still be good.

I used Interfolio....worked alright though most of my recommendors ended up writing me new letters because they love me....Very nice of them.

Ummmm. Yeah. Happy to answer any questions and can let you know how the season goes for me after I get through it. So far trying to get secondaries done with the power going out every couple hours and the internet cutting out is not very fun....BUT, I am glad that I did it (and the 4 years prior to Peace Corps where I was abroad in Europe and South America.....now I am in Africa by the way).

Ok. Good luck.
 
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I really want to join the Peace Corps at some point (for a full 27 month term), but I'm trying to see how it'll work out with timing. If I do it right after undergrad, it could maybe help me get into med school (not that this has anything to do with my reason for joining); however, I would have to make sure my MCAT score will still be valid and that I wouldn't completely forget everything I learned in undergrad.
If I do it right after medical school, I would have more relevant experience to join the Peace Corps with, but I don't exactly know how it would affect residency + post-med school plans.

Also, I had initially planned on majoring in psychology, but I'm debating on whether or not to major in public health instead since it's slightly more relevant in regards to the Peace Corps (I can't double major because they are in two different colleges within my university). Would it be best to just major in psychology and minor in public health or vice versa? (sorry, kind of a vague question and it probably doesn't matter significantly)

Don't do the peace corps. Become a doctor and do Doctors without borders or something....Volunteering when you're a doctor is a lot more helpful than some kid without any professional training going over there imo
 
Peace Corps is different than Doctors without Borders and has different goals. Having worked as a technical advisor for DwB in S. American and as a Peace Corps volunteer in Africa I actually have a very poor opinion of DwB and a somewhat better opinion of PC. The goals are completely different. A lot of DwB people frankly go mostly as vacations, they live in hotels mostly in large cities where they (literally) drink cocktails by the pool and see very little of the reality of the countries that they live in (in my opinion and experience). They are also paid 5 times or more what local doctors are paid, which in my opinion is morally wrong and also makes the position not "volunteer" though they do make less than they would in US/France/etc.... This is true even for folks who work in Congo (more developed infrastructurally than where I currently live!) or at refugee camps where they are often trucked in from a city for the day's work and do not live at the camp. I see the role of DwB to serve in areas of humanitarian or military crisis....as doctors in refugee camps basically....though this is ONLY putting a bandaid on problems and the "good" of this can be debated ad nauseum....medically treating people who have no social capital or intellectual future is ..........? And flying someone in for 3 or 6 months (the standard DwB service time many places) to do systems development is naive and hurtful. We owe the people we work with better than that.

Folks not willing to dedicate 2 years or more of their lives to ground level work should NOT be doing development planning. Small NGOs, unconsidered financing, and fly-in/fly-out development is literally DESTROYING Africa (like the NGO director here financed by a medium size German aide organization and DED that I, living in the village, have witnessed beating HIV positive individuals so that they will tell the stories he wants heard by funders, raping children, and stealing all the money he is given....the fact that he has a, I kid you not, gold leaf throne in his office might clue out the fly-in/fly out funders....but nope) and caused an epidemic in the town I lived in in S.Am (courtesy of DwB and their genius water dist system that didn't take seasons into account....hmmmm, it was fun when they called me in to fix the problem)

The point of being a PC volunteer is to live in a community at or below the economic level of your contemporaries and to gain a true understanding of the challenges to development. To see stark reality with your own eyes and to make/see mistakes made that you will not duplicate later. Peace Corps also takes the stance of coming into a community, learning, and then applying local solutions. It doesn't always work (often doesn't) but the approach and philosophy is at least different from most Aid organizations which come in and impose external standards and implement plans that were developed in DC or NYC or Geneva in an air conditioned office by people who have never lived in a village (and that includes Host Country nationals working abroad or in their country capitals).

A lot of people don't do PC for those reasons, and think they are going to "save the world" or are just out for adventure....but from my estimation you can do individual good, establish programs and learn a lot of the truth that I believe (as someone with 6 years in international scientific work) most people in development, medicine, and research do not ever come to know. I have acheived "historic" things as a PCV in my country and others have done amazing things as well without an MD: including rotating technology camps, science clubs for girls with 85% university entrance rates, development of functioning anti-traffiking (children) systems, and small victories like getting truly evil people out of funding. Saving people's physical lives is only the very beginning of the problem, if there is nothing to live for, why save someone at all?

An anecdote that I think is enlightening comes from a friend whom I studied with and who is now the WHO director in Cote d'Ivoire. His opinion is that Peace Corps volunteers come to know the realities of countries better than 90% of host country nationals who have finished high school ...because we are there on the ground.

Peace Corps is by no means a perfect organization....FAR from it. But if you really want to learn about the realities of life for the planet's majority, I think it is the only way to do it.

Additionally, I think having an experience of this nature when you are NOT a doctor (read before you have a degree that gives you license to be arrogant and think you know more than the locals) is a powerful thing.

It depends what you want out of the experience and how willing you are to LEARN in the field. PC is a humbling experience and that is the point I think....other experiences do not have this goal I would argue.

If this is a debate you are having with yourself, then talk to a PCV who "Early Terminated" their service (ie didn't finish 2 years) or read the book Village of Waiting by George Packer. Undoubtedly PCVs get more out of the experience than they give tangibly give (the intangible though....), but I would argue that during service and later in their career they help more than they hurt, which I do not believe can be said for much development work.

Also talk to national program directors or aide organization directors who are African/S. America and have field experience. The opinion of PC among these folks is much higher than the opinion of DwB or similar programs in my experience (and I am counting 3 African health ministers, 7 African ministry program directors, 5 WHO directors or section chiefs, and countless international university professors in my informal census ....that made me decide to still do Peace Corps though I did not "need" the experience with my resume).

All international programs are not created equal, so you should chose the one that fits for you.....but make the choice carefully. Good luck and think deep!
 
Thank you so much for the responses! I really appreciate it!
justgo - thank you especially for your feedback and time! It's really given me a lot to consider and I think I'm going to talk it over with my pre-med adviser to see if I can work it out. Thank you again!
 
I have many, many friends from UG that did PC, and posters here have done an excellent job assessing the good and bad sides of the PC. What I will say is that my friends who were in Sub-Saharan Africa were pretty misserable/jaded, while friends in Eastern Europe/Central Asia and Latin America tended to enjoy their assignments, and in retrospect, tend to not regret doing PC. Point is, it's not a bad idea to learn Russian or Spanish; basically, do whatever you can so you don't end-up in Africa
 
I have many, many friends from UG that did PC, and posters here have done an excellent job assessing the good and bad sides of the PC. What I will say is that my friends who were in Sub-Saharan Africa were pretty misserable/jaded, while friends in Eastern Europe/Central Asia and Latin America tended to enjoy their assignments, and in retrospect, tend to not regret doing PC. Point is, it's not a bad idea to learn Russian or Spanish; basically, do whatever you can so you don't end-up in Africa

+1. Most ppl I met who were in sub-Saharan Africa were not really that happy about it in the end (not all, but most). Most people who went elsewhere were generally happy with it. This # is from probably about 8 years ago, but Latin America had a 10% drop out rate and sub-Saharan Africa was about 40%.
 
+1. Most ppl I met who were in sub-Saharan Africa were not really that happy about it in the end (not all, but most). Most people who went elsewhere were generally happy with it. This # is from probably about 8 years ago, but Latin America had a 10% drop out rate and sub-Saharan Africa was about 40%.

Every country is different, and these generalization have limited use. Tanzania's drop out rate was probably no more than 10% when I was there, whereas when I visited Ethiopia I think it was over 50%. The main trend I saw was that PCVs in small villages or rural areas of Africa were more likely to have a great experience, while those in towns and cities were much less happy.
 
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