Judith Orloff, MD?

[ClinPsycMasters]

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What do you guys think of Judith Orloff? She's a psychiatrist, an assistant clinical professor at UCLA. Her books receive unanimously positive reviews on Amazon.com. I looked at one of her books in the library and by the time she started talking about intuition at length--sounding almost mystical--not to mention energy medicine and all that, I lost interest. Something about her rubs me the wrong way....

 

[BobA]

What do you guys think of Judith Orloff? She's a psychiatrist, an assistant clinical professor at UCLA. Her books receive unanimously positive reviews on Amazon.com. I looked at one of her books in the library and by the time she started talking about intuition at length--sounding almost mystical--not to mention energy medicine and all that, I lost interest. Something about her rubs me the wrong way....

I wouldn't read her if she rubbed you the wrong way. Read something else!

 

[sunlioness]

I don't necessarily mind a dose of mysticism, intuition and energy medicine, but something about her rubs me the wrong way too. I think because in one of her books she talks about how one of her social worker friends married one of her addict clients and how this was so wonderful and now they run this halfway house together, and I was just like . . . hello, boundaries?

 

[ClinPsycMasters]

I don't necessarily mind a dose of mysticism, intuition and energy medicine, but something about her rubs me the wrong way too. I think because in one of her books she talks about how one of her social worker friends married one of her addict clients and how this was so wonderful and now they run this halfway house together, and I was just like . . . hello, boundaries?

Here's a quote from an interview of hers:

"Dr. McKinley: I'm impressed with your prescriptions for sexual spirituality wherein you describe aligning the heart Chakras with your mate by hugging him or her, and feeling the love energy pass between you. You say this can be a way to achieve intimacy without having sex if you are too tired, but want to nurture the beautiful energy that sexuality brings when in a spiritual relationship with a partner."

"Dr. Orloff: Thank you. And as a Psychiatrist I must reiterate that subtle energy is very real and we must be aware of that. Every organ in your body responds to this energy. A negative energy can attract sickness and sick people in relationships towards you. Energy vampires are absolutely there and we must honor that."



Though I am a spiritual person and do value intuition as well, I think all this New Age stuff and her claiming to have pioneered a new field called "Energy Psychiatry" is bull! She's just trying to sell books and appeal to the current atmosphere of discontent with psychiatry and its limitations, and interest in New Age views. She better be careful. She is using her authority as a psychiatrist to sell books, ideas, and rationales to people, when many of these ideas and explanations have little to do with her formal training. I mean, "Energy Psychiatry"?! Where is the science behind it?

 

[Ibid]

I once saw a television program called Opera Winnie which I understand is fantastically popular. I imagine she targets the same CD demographic and can see how she might do rather well out of it.

From her blogg.
While once attending a general meeting of the Cedars Sinai Medical Staff, I met a plastic surgeon named Richard. Immaculately dressed in a three-piece suit, tanned andhandsome, he asked me out to lunch. In the Hamburger Hamlet at the edge of the Sunset Strip, we engaged in small talk for a while, I kept thinking to myself, "This is one of the weirdest dates I've ever had." One month later, a friend called to tell me that Richard had been killed in a freak motorcycle accident

Hmmm…the angle of death seems to move rather swiftly in her mind from lunch to date. I’m not familiar with Hamburger Hamlet but I expect it’s one of those places where they don’t trust the patrons with knives and forks. I'm sure it was all very romantic.

"Energy Psychiatry"?! Where is the science behind it?

Einstein’s spooky action at a distance perhaps?? This cut and paste suggests the mechanism and explains puts it in a nut shell. The phenomenon suggests that the hypothetical bosonic phase of existence might extend beyond the confines of the room to include an entire morphic field that incorporates fermions in every person met and every place visited and might even extend instantly to all the bosons in the universe. Whether this means consciousness and thought can persist and engage in some form of social interaction after brain death or after decomposition remains an open question.

Essentially things that should not be able to interact with each other in fact do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_at_a_distance_(physics)

Prob giving a bit more credit than one should.

 

[notdeadyet]

I’m not familiar with Hamburger Hamlet but I expect it’s one of those places where they don’t trust the patrons with knives and forks.

It's actually a small chain that makes high end hamburgers at about $10 or $15 a pop. Knives and forks included.

 

[Ibid]

Notdeadyet

I bow to your superior knowledge about these matters! It all makes sense. The everyman mass produced food, sold at slightly inflated prices, served in an atmosphere that panders at the CD patrons idea of sophistication, while at the same time not introducing any real element of culture that the patron might find threatening. Killing off the idealised man was a masterstroke. She is clearly a marketing genius.

 

[notdeadyet]

I bow to your superior knowledge about these matters!

Yeah, California hamburgers are about the only niche I can claim any expertise on when visiting SDN...

 

[Ibid]

Notdeadyet

Self deprecation is often perceived as an attractive quality. Of course it is also a luxury and when deployed by the unwary it exposes an underlying conceit. Humility is the genuine article.

Mea culpa

 

[loveoforganic]

Smug superiority isn't becoming.

 

[ClinPsycMasters]

I once saw a television program called Opera Winnie which I understand is fantastically popular. I imagine she targets the same CD demographic and can see how she might do rather well out of it.

From her blogg.
While once attending a general meeting of the Cedars Sinai Medical Staff, I met a plastic surgeon named Richard. Immaculately dressed in a three-piece suit, tanned andhandsome, he asked me out to lunch. In the Hamburger Hamlet at the edge of the Sunset Strip, we engaged in small talk for a while, I kept thinking to myself, "This is one of the weirdest dates I've ever had." One month later, a friend called to tell me that Richard had been killed in a freak motorcycle accident

Hmmm…the angle of death seems to move rather swiftly in her mind from lunch to date. I'm not familiar with Hamburger Hamlet but I expect it's one of those places where they don't trust the patrons with knives and forks. I'm sure it was all very romantic.

"Energy Psychiatry"?! Where is the science behind it?

Einstein's spooky action at a distance perhaps?? This cut and paste suggests the mechanism and explains puts it in a nut shell. The phenomenon suggests that the hypothetical bosonic phase of existence might extend beyond the confines of the room to include an entire morphic field that incorporates fermions in every person met and every place visited and might even extend instantly to all the bosons in the universe. Whether this means consciousness and thought can persist and engage in some form of social interaction after brain death or after decomposition remains an open question.

Essentially things that should not be able to interact with each other in fact do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_at_a_distance_(physics)

Prob giving a bit more credit than one should.

It's like the whole thing with quantum mechanics and quantum entanglement. People who have only a superficial understanding of this complex theory are now applying it to literature, consciousness, God...all kinds of stuff. It's very postmodern and makes for interest intellectual discussion but to present it as objective truth is just irresponsible and intellectually dishonest.