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Anybody else waiting for their results tomorrow?????
Anxious as hell, the wait has been brutal
Anxious as hell, the wait has been brutal
i'm waiting too..Can't sleep!!! I thought I did well, but then I started hearing all these stories of people in my school failing. Decent, capable, socially normal students who speak English as their 1st language...and now I'm freaking out!!
i'm waiting too..Can't sleep!!! I thought I did well, but then I started hearing all these stories of people in my school failing. Decent, capable, socially normal students who speak English as their 1st language...and now I'm freaking out!!
I called ecfmg, and the lady was annoyed. I'm sure many people have called asking about their cs scores. I know a few people who took their exams after me, and have gotten their score today. I don't think there's an order. It's just scattered. Also i asked if they release them only on wed, and whether it's before a certain time. She said it can be any day, any time...i was like wtf?! So, i'll have to be throwing up everything i eat from now until possibly july 10th is what i said to her. She had no response. ahhhhhhhh
I know this test has become a gremlin (used to be cute and cuddly and now its morphed into some horrible creature)
Excellent way of putting it. During my rotations, every attending would ask me "Why are you even studying for this exam, you speak English! thats enough!" No one believed me when I said this exam has become more and more difficult. I read somewhere that they increased the fail rate to 6-8% for US students and 18% for IMGs. I mean it doesn't suprise me, the more fails you have, the more $$ it generates for the NBME, plus it helps residency programs weed out tons of applications.
Yes my advice is to definitely practice practice practice even if you are a 260s/4.0 destined for rad-onc kind of student. Everyone I have talked to recently (including myself) had at least one "borderline" section...its definitely not as easy to pass as one may think. Basically we all barely passed, considering you have to pass all 3 sections to pass overall. I mean CIS seems like the easiest section - how hard is it to be polite and professional? I thought I knocked that one out of the park..I was soooo careful to always introduce myself, drape the patients, wash my hands, counsel on smoking... but I didn't do as well as I thought!
Just in case this may help future test-takers, I thought I would try and list what I might have gotten wrong in the CIS portion of my exam:
- on a couple of patients, i leaned them back on the table to examine abdomen and I momentarily forgot to pull out the bottom part of the table where the patient is supposed to rest their legs. I caught myself like maybe 10-15 secs into the abdominal exam.
- patient that got offended when i asked CAGE
- patient that got offended when I counseled her on condom use
- patient that got offended when i screened her for depression/abuse at home
- I had one patient who was actually a doctor himself, and I didn't catch his title in the doorway information. When I called him Mr. whatever, he quite rudely was like "Thats DOCTOR whatever to you". And of course, as I was saying goodbye to him, I called him Mr. again!
So basically, I'm wondering if I couldn't discuss sensitive topics well enough - alcohol, condoms, depression... Maybe I was too blunt? Or I brought them up when it wasn't needed? Or maybe the SPs are just meant to challenge you? Either way I got incredibly flustered when they got offended. Hopefully this information helps someone...Even though I went through the entire FA for CS book, I still had difficulty with these topics. So my advice is to practice talking about these issues.
They increased it BY those numbers. Now over 30% of IMGs will fail it, and about 10% of AMGs.
I took it in May and turns out I passed. I registered this account to let y'all know my experience and offer some advice bc I know this test has become a gremlin (used to be cute and cuddly and now its morphed into some horrible creature)
I'm a above average American Med student (230s Step 1 // classes with mostly honors and the rest passes, which on SDN puts me in the bottom 2%) but my strength is my interaction with patients. I took my test in Houston and my CS scores were kissing the borderline area, which came as a surprise to me. I used First Aid CS and Kaplans 35 complex cases. I thought both were good and helpful although they were written before everything was mandatory on the computer. I used the online PN template at nbme.org also along with my wife as a practice standardized patient. My school has us do OSCEs pretty frequently and even offers a mini (6cases)Step 2CS practice for us.
My advice is this:
-Take this test seriously, which you probably already do bc you're reading some random persons Internet advice
-Use, at the very least, First Aid for CS or some source that goes through the different situations you can see
-Get a person or group of people to practice being standardized patients on. I can't overstate this.
-You don't need to know treatment for your note, but your patients will ask you about it on the exam. Be able to talk to them about it but don't offer anything definitive unless you're sure about your dx.
-Practice writing your note with nbme software
Good luck everybody!
I took my CS on May 11 in LA. I know several other people who took it in LA before me, and 1 person who took it with me on that day. Everyone I know has gotten their score already, but I have not. This is making me very nervous. I've read on the SDN that they generally release scores in order of performance. Meaning, those who passed with room to spare are reported first, and those who barely passed next, and those who failed are reported last. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? Should I be worried by the fact that I have not yet received my scores?
Does anyone know how I may contact the NBME?
Thank goodness for that. Although I'm still terrified by the fact that I haven't received my score report yet. Especially given the fact that people who took it on the same day, same location, and same side of the hallway, have already gotten their scores.It's not even remotely true.
I actually just got an email from NBME and looks like I passed as well. My XXXs are literally spanning the entire "borderline" width of the ICE subsection. Mother ^@%# that was close.
Good luck to the rest of y'alls.
hmmmmm this sounds like one of my Texas Tech classmates yes?
Excellent way of putting it. During my rotations, every attending would ask me "Why are you even studying for this exam, you speak English! thats enough!" No one believed me when I said this exam has become more and more difficult. I read somewhere that they increased the fail rate to 6-8% for US students and 18% for IMGs. I mean it doesn't suprise me, the more fails you have, the more $$ it generates for the NBME, plus it helps residency programs weed out tons of applications.
Yes my advice is to definitely practice practice practice even if you are a 260s/4.0 destined for rad-onc kind of student. Everyone I have talked to recently (including myself) had at least one "borderline" section...its definitely not as easy to pass as one may think. Basically we all barely passed, considering you have to pass all 3 sections to pass overall. I mean CIS seems like the easiest section - how hard is it to be polite and professional? I thought I knocked that one out of the park..I was soooo careful to always introduce myself, drape the patients, wash my hands, counsel on smoking... but I didn't do as well as I thought!
Just in case this may help future test-takers, I thought I would try and list what I might have gotten wrong in the CIS portion of my exam:
- on a couple of patients, i leaned them back on the table to examine abdomen and I momentarily forgot to pull out the bottom part of the table where the patient is supposed to rest their legs. I caught myself like maybe 10-15 secs into the abdominal exam.
- patient that got offended when i asked CAGE
- patient that got offended when I counseled her on condom use
- patient that got offended when i screened her for depression/abuse at home
- I had one patient who was actually a doctor himself, and I didn't catch his title in the doorway information. When I called him Mr. whatever, he quite rudely was like "Thats DOCTOR whatever to you". And of course, as I was saying goodbye to him, I called him Mr. again!
So basically, I'm wondering if I couldn't discuss sensitive topics well enough - alcohol, condoms, depression... Maybe I was too blunt? Or I brought them up when it wasn't needed? Or maybe the SPs are just meant to challenge you? Either way I got incredibly flustered when they got offended. Hopefully this information helps someone...Even though I went through the entire FA for CS book, I still had difficulty with these topics. So my advice is to practice talking about these issues.