Just a question..

[PCATBOMBER]

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So i have a simple question regarding my transcript. As a freshmen I did my assesment test and was put into calculus level. However admission advisor made me took basic math. I was a newb and don't know what to do but was upset because of that. I got a D in math 98 which basically is elementary arithmetic. The following semester I disregard the D and proceed onto college algebra and got a B+ in it. The year following I took precalculus and got a D. Disregarding the D i proceed onward to calculus and got an A in calculus. How will adcom view this odd trend of performance of mine.?

 

[PCATBOMBER]

Basically
Elementary math. = D
College algebra = B+
Precalculus = D
Calculus = A

 

[HawaiiLavender]

The school will only take in account to its pre-requisite which is calculus. The rest are no concern but if you get Fs or WN that might warn them that you might not handle the professional phase courses. In the pharmcas your GPA grade will be lower since they take to an account of everything

 

[PCATBOMBER]

What is WN? W i know is withdrawal. I have total 3 withdrawal but not because i am failing any course. I was passing them but know that my load is too much so I had to withdraw before 1/4th way in. However non of those are part of my prereqs

 

[KungFuPanda123]

Dear lord man, just step up to the plate already and ace your classes. There is no excuse for having those types of fluctuations in those sorts of classes, when you have already proven that you can handle more advanced courses. It makes you look like you're a lazy sack of potatoes. No one likes those

 

[YTAZ]

Dear lord man, just step up to the plate already and ace your classes. There is no excuse for having those types of fluctuations in those sorts of classes, when you have already proven that you can handle more advanced courses. It makes you look like you're a lazy sack of potatoes. No one likes those

Why using this tone of voice while you could have simply gave your advice in a different and more helpful why?

Excuse me, but you cannot spread your negativity here. I have read your reply to another member's post and you had same negativity.

P.S. On the other post you said you're a pre-med. Why do not you go to the pre-med forum and talk whatever you want there?

 

[KungFuPanda123]

Why using this tone of voice while you could have simply gave your advice in a different and more helpful why?

Excuse me, but you cannot spread your negativity here. I have read your reply to another member's post and you had same negativity.

P.S. On the other post you said you're a pre-med. Why do not you go to the pre-med forum and talk whatever you want there?

Because I'm trying to give some tough love. I screwed up my freshman year of college in arguably the easiest classes and spent the next 3 years salvaging my GPA, having to work even harder to do well in those upper-division classes. Thanks to some tough love that I got from friends/family and maturation that happened on my part, I was able to turn things around. I want OP to see how he/she has plenty of potential (an A in Calculus?? That's an awesome grade and demonstrates a strong proficiency in math that a D/F in more basic math classes show) and just needs to get a small kick in the butt before it's too late.

Are you talking about my other post on pre-pharmacy here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/new-to-pharmacy-world.1189771/
It really wasn't meant to be very negative - or at least no more negative on pharmacy than medicine. I wanted to talk about some of the crappy reviews that I have heard on a career in medicine to show that I wasn't trying to suggest medicine as an alternate career to the OP. I was just bringing it up to show that I can empathize to an extent with the negatives of various health professions, including careers like pharmacy and medicine. I think that I made that abundantly clear in my second post in that thread. I really was curious about the OP's decision to enter pharmacy and concerned about the job prospects for him/her; I don't think that I was being more negative than the popular threads I see on here about the unfortunate outlook for pharmacy positions.

 

[HawaiiLavender]

What is WN? W i know is withdrawal. I have total 3 withdrawal but not because i am failing any course. I was passing them but know that my load is too much so I had to withdraw before 1/4th way in. However non of those are part of my prereqs

A WN is pretty much you were on the track of failing or you decided to withdraw after the deadline. So that's really bad but a W means you did it the right way, did the paper to be removed from the class and early enough to not have any wrongdoings with your GPA status.

 

[monkieez]

Basically
Elementary math. = D = 1.00
College algebra = B+ = 3.33
Precalculus = D = 1.00
Calculus = A = 4

( 1 + 1 + 3.33 + 4) / 4 = 2.3325 = not good

You need to start taking school seriously regardless if you want to do pre-pharmacy or another career. I assume most colleges won't let you continue with a significant amount of Ds. Just because classes are "not prereqs" doesn't mean they don't count. Schools want to be able for future pharmacists to be able to communicate and think critically and having mostly Ds and withdrawals on your transcript would not demonstrate that to them as well as undermine your capability of persevering through a full courseload (as mentioned by others). Not trying to be mean, but want to give you a wake up call.

 

[PCATBOMBER]

Basically
Elementary math. = D = 1.00
College algebra = B+ = 3.33
Precalculus = D = 1.00
Calculus = A = 4

( 1 + 1 + 3.33 + 4) / 4 = 2.3325 = not good

You need to start taking school seriously regardless if you want to do pre-pharmacy or another career. I assume most colleges won't let you continue with a significant amount of Ds. Just because classes are "not prereqs" doesn't mean they don't count. Schools want to be able for future pharmacists to be able to communicate and think critically and having mostly Ds and withdrawals on your transcript would not demonstrate that to them as well as undermine your capability of persevering through a full courseload (as mentioned by others). Not trying to be mean, but want to give you a wake up call.

The D came off early when I was a freshmen and sophmore. Beyond that my gpa been above 3.2 towards my senior year.

 

[rxdreamin12]

Hi guys,
I'm in a very bad predicament. I have been working as a pharmacy technician for 2 years. I will graduate with a biology degree this summer. However my college years have not been so great. I had many obstacles my way being the eldest child I had to work full time as well as be a full time student. I came from a family where domestic violence was an everyday thing and my dad was an alcoholic. He passed away last year and things got worse. But through all these hardships and financial problems I decided to still pursue a degree despite the many times I wanted to give up. But I always wanted to be a pharmacist and it has been a dream of mine ever since I was young. I didn't want the troubles at home to be a reason as to why I didn't achieve my goals. However even though I'm graduating with a biology degree my transcript is not so great. I'm graduating with a 2.1 cumulative gpa. I know for a fact no pharmacy school will take me. Please someone tell me if I can get a second chance at my dreams to be a pharmacist. What should be my next step after graduating with a biology degree? Should I take over all those classes I did poorly in over at a community college and aim for nothing let's than A? But I hear no matter what PharmCAS averages every grade. So if I had an F, then a C and I take the class over at a community college and get an A, how significantly will that change my grade on PharmCAS? People deserve second chances at life and I really wish I can fix my situation. Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you!!

 

[escanoke]

Hi guys,
I'm in a very bad predicament. I have been working as a pharmacy technician for 2 years. I will graduate with a biology degree this summer. However my college years have not been so great. I had many obstacles my way being the eldest child I had to work full time as well as be a full time student. I came from a family where domestic violence was an everyday thing and my dad was an alcoholic. He passed away last year and things got worse. But through all these hardships and financial problems I decided to still pursue a degree despite the many times I wanted to give up. But I always wanted to be a pharmacist and it has been a dream of mine ever since I was young. I didn't want the troubles at home to be a reason as to why I didn't achieve my goals. However even though I'm graduating with a biology degree my transcript is not so great. I'm graduating with a 2.1 cumulative gpa. I know for a fact no pharmacy school will take me. Please someone tell me if I can get a second chance at my dreams to be a pharmacist. What should be my next step after graduating with a biology degree? Should I take over all those classes I did poorly in over at a community college and aim for nothing let's than A? But I hear no matter what PharmCAS averages every grade. So if I had an F, then a C and I take the class over at a community college and get an A, how significantly will that change my grade on PharmCAS? People deserve second chances at life and I really wish I can fix my situation. Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you!!

Yes, I was in the same boat as you were 3 yrs ago in terms of low GPA wise. I went and did my UG and graduated with a BS in Construction Mgmt that I didn't put time in effort in. My graduating GPA was a 2.3. I decided to pursue pharmacy when I graduated and started to take pre-reqs for pharmacy right away. I ended up doing a few at a CC but did my upper sciences at a 4 year college (admissions advised to do this) so I slowly fulfilled my classes while working at an in patient pharmacy for 3 yrs. I ended up with a pre-req GPA of a 3.7 and a PCAT score of 88. My cGPA wasn't above a 3.0 after everything but I think they saw my high pre-req GPA and PCAT scores with my explanation that made admins give me at least an interview to prove myself. I'll be starting a pharmacy program in the fall.


My suggestion to you is, retake any pre-reqs you have taken already under your UG that isn't a B or higher, maybe have some semesters that you take a full-load and ace all of them (just make sure not to do orgo, physics, and bio at the same time), take the PCAT and ace those. Have a personal statement that explains your low GPA and how you have matured academically. It'll be a long and grueling journey with nights where you doubt yourself and your chances but if you could at least pull off what I have written down, that is going to be your best chance at pursuing your dreams of pharmacy. Remember that your job prospects might not be great when you graduate and you're ready and willing to jump through hoops more than the people before you had to for the same jobs coming out. Good luck and if you really want this you'll do what's needed and in turn will give you the best chances.


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[rxdreamin12]

Yes, I was in the same boat as you were 3 yrs ago in terms of low GPA wise. I went and did my UG and graduated with a BS in Construction Mgmt that I didn't put time in effort in. My graduating GPA was a 2.3. I decided to pursue pharmacy when I graduated and started to take pre-reqs for pharmacy right away. I ended up doing a few at a CC but did my upper sciences at a 4 year college (admissions advised to do this) so I slowly fulfilled my classes while working at an in patient pharmacy for 3 yrs. I ended up with a pre-req GPA of a 3.7 and a PCAT score of 88. My cGPA wasn't above a 3.0 after everything but I think they saw my high pre-req GPA and PCAT scores with my explanation that made admins give me at least an interview to prove myself. I'll be starting a pharmacy program in the fall.


My suggestion to you is, retake any pre-reqs you have taken already under your UG that isn't a B or higher, maybe have some semesters that you take a full-load and ace all of them (just make sure not to do orgo, physics, and bio at the same time), take the PCAT and ace those. Have a personal statement that explains your low GPA and how you have matured academically. It'll be a long and grueling journey with nights where you doubt yourself and your chances but if you could at least pull off what I have written down, that is going to be your best chance at pursuing your dreams of pharmacy. Remember that your job prospects might not be great when you graduate and you're ready and willing to jump through hoops more than the people before you had to for the same jobs coming out. Good luck and if you really want this you'll do what's needed and in turn will give you the best chances.


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I'm graduating with a bachelors in biology with a really low gpa. And I have taken all the preqs already but a lot of the grades were Cs such as in bio, Chem and orgo. So should I just take those classes over at a CC, idk how much that will help because my overall gpa is 2.1. What do u think?

 

[escanoke]

I think that's the only thing you can do at this point and kill the PCATS as well. You could try to apply to schools now (some are extending their deadline which I believe equates to schools still need to fill seats) and you can try for roseman or MCPHS and see what happens


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