Just Dismissed from Dental School, Need letter/support ASAP!

[full]

Hey…

On Monday I was disqualified from USC’s Dental Program at the start of my 2nd year.

I have until this Monday the 19th 5:00PM to appeal.

******I’M SEEKING DENTISTS TO WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT******

A letter that I can include in my appeal.

Something saying that my wax-up work shows good enough hand skills to be able to re-do the first year. That based on the pictures attached, if the "no-pass" grade was only because of this wax-up then that information should not be used in a dismissal decision since it's misleading (chipped piece of wax that happened after I turned it in!).

All I want is to be able to be sent back a year, enabling me to re-do my first year. They let a classmate of mine in this position do that, but for me they flat out kicked me out.

If I had passed the remedial occlusion course, they would have no ACADEMIC GROUNDS to have dismissed me. I want to stress this in my appeal. BTW, this was the only remediation course that I ever took.

(I honestly don't think they should have dismissed me anyways. I think politics--relationships with faculty/students--played a major. But I was assured that the decision would be based on academics only.)

Below are pictures of my wax-up final exam for the remedial occlusion course. The course director did not pass me ONLY BECAUSE PART OF THE WAX CHIPPED OFF! ATTACHED BELOW is his technical lingo explaining that.

Although I passed the written portion, he said that because the lab practical portion—the wax-up—was not passed (again only because of a super small chipped piece of wax!) that he will not pass me.

No one at the school is going to take on an opinion against any faculty, so that’s why I need your help.


If this work were done in the original occlusion class it would have not only passed but it would have been above average, but it’s just that I was a little slower to develop my hand skills so I didn’t peak until the remediation course.

LOOK, they would not even let me be held back a year. BUT me only. They let another student be held back a year. On the other hand, they flat out kicked me out.

Again their may have been politics involved—like whether people liked me or not. I brought this up and I was assured that this hearing will be STRICTLY ON ACADEMIC MATTERS. But still the outcome is very fishy to me.

****If you just wrote a FEW LINES that would be helpful. It's manly your status that I'm seeking (as weird as that sounds LOL) not some lengthy letter. For example something to the effect of:

“After viewing the pictures [or witnessing in person] of Michael's wax-up, I feel the work demonstrates a level of hand/dexterity skill that show a student can perform well in dental school. If this work was the reason why the remediation course was not passed I find it unfair. The student should be given a chance to be held back a year and retake his courses.”

***REALLY just anything. Any authority/dentist writing something will carry WEIGHT.

***I can also meet you anytime if you want to see it in person. But again this is TIME URGENT, so it must be SUNDAY OR EARLY MONDAY. I apologize for such a short time notice.

***Please address the Letter to "USC School of Dentistry Academic Affairs". You should probably hand sign it. You can scan it and mail it or I’d seriously be willing to DRIVE TO YOUR LOCATION AND PICK IT UP.

***Note that it is regarding the recent dismissal of student #14343 and that this is to support his appeal.

***If nothing else, if you could at least email a letter to navazesh@usc.edu (Associate Dean of Academic Affairs)..but addressing to usc dental academic affairs is fine, you don't need to put her name.

***Please forward me a copy too at APPEALUSC@YAHOO.COM

FEW GRADING POINTS:
1) QUALITY OF DIE KEEN CAST IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GRADE
2)GREEN WAX IS OK
3)RED ARTICULATING PAPER MARKS ARE OK

***LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING I CAN DO TO MAKE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE TO WRITE A LETTER***

I'm gonna try to write a longer more detailed explanation within the next 24 hrs but just wanted to get this up since it's time urgent!

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[zriceman]

wow i can't believe they wouldn't let you repeat for that! I m a D3 and I dont think I could wax up a molar like that! I wish you success in your appeal.

 

[MDMD11]

get a lawyer on board and threaten to sue them, that seemed to work at my dental school
good luck

 

[DrReo]

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[Streetwolf]

First of all I'm not sure a letter from any dentists on SDN would be worth much, if anything, to your school, plus there's no guarantee that someone here who writes your school a letter is even a dentist. In addition, receiving letters from unknown dentists might make things worse because they might be annoyed you're trying to go around their faculty for more opinions.

I'm going to assume that those are actually pictures of the tooth you waxed up for the exam that you failed. Most of us here can see you did a pretty good job with the wax-up. I for one could never make a tooth look that good in wax... probably not even now. And honestly, the area you were 'deficient' in is probably one of the easier spots of the tooth to wax-up so I'm actually inclined to believe that it did chip off like you said. Whether it chipped off before or after you handed it in is something we can't know for sure. The problem is that we don't know your history in that class, relationship with students and faculty, etc.

One student a year below me got a few points taken off for failing to put on a rubber dam during the operative final. He tossed away the grading sheet that had the minus 3 written on it and pulled out a blank one. The instructor caught him and he was in some serious trouble. He ended up being dismissed from the school. That might seem harsh but he had a history of questionable work and poor relationships with classmates and faculty. This was just the icing on the cake so to speak.

Point is, if you've been walking on thin ice for a while - something we DON'T know from this post - they might be able to use everything they have against you to give you the boot. I personally don't think you should be dismissed SOLELY for what you've shown us, but I don't think any one of us should be writing anything on your behalf for the reasons above.

You'd be better off getting faculty from your school on your side. Hopefully it isn't too late for that.

 

[DrBowtie]

Lawyer up ASAP. No one on SDN can help you.

 

[peppy]

I'm not a dentist so take my comments with a grain of salt, but I do feel for you. It must be awful to be facing this sort of situation.

(I honestly don't think they should have dismissed me anyways. I think politics--relationships with faculty/students--played a major. But I was assured that the decision would be based on academics only.)

Even if "technically" the social/political issues were not supposed to be a factor, the administration is human and probably not immune to being influence by these factors.
I noticed that when you posted before about your school issues someone claiming to be your classmate posted some concerns about your interactions with faculty. I don't know how accurate that person's perception is, but I think a lot of times in these kinds of settings "perception becomes reality".
If these incidents do come up in the process of appealing this case, I think expressing humility and a willingness to work on improving will probably help your case.
I wish you the best in finding the right path for your future.

 

[full]

I was deficient in 19 units. The other student who was allowed to be held back a year was deficient in 17 units.

Academic affairs said that my deficiency was "a much greater ladder to climb" so they would not let me even be held back a year.

Deficiency= you need remediation in some part of the course

If I had passed this remedial occlusion course then I would have had 4 of the units cleared, leaving me with only 15 deficient units...leaving them no grounds to use that argument.

Also note that both of us didn't pass Anatomy. This alone creates 11 units of deficiency...even though anatomy is just a 6 week course 8 hrs/week.

This is deceptive. Here's why: USC groups Anatomy into their HUMAN FUNCTION (8 unit) course and HUMAN STRUCTURE (3 unit) course.

Anatomy is 15% of the grade in each of those courses. The only portion of those courses that me and the other student needed to re mediate was Anatomy.

But as a result this makes us deficient in 11 units...misleading or not?

 

[Kam1]

Review your Student Handbook with an attorney. It should have a section
on 'dismissal.'

Good luck.

 

[fleur531]

Yes, you need to get a lawyer ASAP. Don't wait. You need to get one now so that you can get reinstated within 3 days. They won't listen to your appeal unless you have a lawyer backing you up. You need one ASAP. I know 2 lawyers who could possibly be of help to you as they have experience with education law. Please contact Scott Newar and/or Andrew S. Golub ASAP -- only a lawyer can help you right now. Call them right now, and get representation ASAP.

I tried to peacefully and amicably address my wrongful dismissal without the use of a lawyer because I thought getting legal representation would be mean and insensitive (unfortunately I'm overly sweet like that).

I was class rank of # 11 of 83 in the previous semester. Even when my grades were downgraded (discriminatory treatment from an Iranian professor due to my Iraqi heritage, for which I reported in writing), I had a "B" average. There's more to that story. Let me put it short: it was a **wrongful** dismissal.

From experience I can tell you that when you are wrongfully dismissed, an appeal is not going to help you much. This analogy might make things more clear: a bunch of crooks don't straighten up just because you ask them nicely not to steal from you.

You need to get a lawyer ASAP. Call one right now!

 

[amalgamator42]

my guess is you probably need to go.

There is probably much more backstory here, but we have to remember, schools don't want to kick people out...they lose the potential tuition money and have an empty seat, they are also at risk for litigation, so they only dismiss people that need to go.

The wax up is better than I could do, but my guess is you have some sort of personality disorder or something else. Also, why are you failing anatomy? It's just pure memorization!

Search your feelings, is dentistry right for you? Probably not. What sucks is that you will lose your tuition money...but better early than late!

 

[fleur531]

"they lose the potential tuition money and have an empty seat...so they only dismiss people that need to go."
-I wish that reasoning were true, amalgamator42. In my case, a transfer student took my seat so there was no loss of potential tuition money.

"they are also at risk for litigation, so they only dismiss people that need to go"
-Litigation is expensive. It is not likely for a dismissed dental student to be able to afford a lawyer. Unfortunately, it is true that justice costs money. And, everyone knows how poor students (especially dismissed ones!) are. In my case, I didn't pursue litigation because my 7+ years of effort towards dentistry was because I wanted to help people, not sue people.

"The wax up is better than I could do, but my guess is you have some sort of personality disorder or something else."
-Is it ethically acceptable for doctors/dentists in the field of academia to falsify grading or to falsely lower a student's grade for a stated grading criteria because of a personality disorder? And, if a person was suspected of a personality disorder and unfit for the practice of dentistry, isn't such a diagnosis to be deemed by a doctor of psychiatry, given that such a determination is outside of the scope of dental licensing? The academic field of dentistry is bounded by ethical, professional and legal regulations. Unchecked authority at liberty to freely violate ethics, professionalism and the law is a dangerous thing and shouldn't be so easily accepted.

I truly loved the art and science of dentistry. When I looked at the OP's waxup, I couldn't help but smile at how awesome dentistry is. Even greater than my love for dentistry, though, I must say I have an even greater passion for improving the condition of less fortunate people. For me, dentistry was a means towards fulfilling this passion. With that being the distraction that has led me off of the route of becoming a DDS, then I couldn't be happier to be distracted.

I made this post because I wanted people to be aware that injustice exists. And, it's not necessarily the victim's fault. Speak out when you see something wrong. Didn't we all put on white coats and take something called the Hippocratic oath? I didn't forget that oath, and I'm not even becoming a doctor anymore. Doctors and future doctors -- please don't forget that you took the Hippocratic oath, Dentist's pledge (whatever name floats your boat🙂).

That's my 2 cents and all I have to say about it. I won't be making any further comments on this subject or elaborating on my situation any further. (Ok, fine, you might have figured out I'm a softie so if you twist my arm and convince me it'll help someone -- then I'll share more). Peace, love and all that good jazz to everyone 👍

 

[pretzeldude66]

I think, perhaps, what amalgamator42 was trying to say is that it is usually not something as simple as a wax-up that gets people kicked out of dental school. Something like between 4,000 and 5,000 people graduate from dental school every year. They are of all nationalities, backgrounds, etc. and so are the professors they work with daily. Everyone has it tough from time to time, but most who start dental school end up graduating.

I think the important thing to note for any future/early dental student is that you will always hear stories of people kicked out of dental school for "no good reason" or school X that automatically kicks out Y% of students every year for fun. Learn to keep your head down and do the best work you can. It isn't the people with poor hand skills on their first few wax-ups, or those who need to study longer hours just to pass, who end up at risk for administrative conflict. It is usually those who constantly mouth-off or make excuses rather than making extra effort to practice or study. There are very few professors who don't want to help you - even those profs with egos are built up by helping a "hopeless" student become great. You just have to approach them properly (and before the end of the year).

With that said, there are certainly injustices in any school and there are definitely professors who cause trouble. Luckily, these people usually have history and the administration and other faculty know it (and I've heard some say things like "haha oh yeah, he's a hard-*****, just stay out of his way"). A student always where they are supposed to be, doing what they are supposed to do, and working hard should never have to worry about being kicked out (unless your best truly can't even get you to passing academically - and then, how did you even get in?).

To those seeking advice and maybe lawyers: Take a moment to do some introspection. If it's truly injustice, then by all means go to the mattresses. But if there is a real possibility that they could pull out your file and embarrass you with a list of problems they had with you and second chances they tried to give - don't waste your money.

 

[youngmc27]

This is such a difficult situation that it seems happens on an annual basis at USC. As I am sure anyone can see there is more to this story than we are hearing. I know the faculty about whom he is speaking and the Occlusion and morphlogy class is probably the easiest class at USC. It only gets worse. We had a student in my class transfer because of difficulties with professors and another the year below us took a leave and pursued another career. My point is that the school gives you plenty of chances I went to USC and I have seen it multiple times. If you feel like a lawyer is your only option then pursue that but decide first what you are going to change and improve your efforts and the skills will come.

 

[AU07DMD]

I tend to agree with most of the above posters. Dental schools try to keep the students they admit because losing/ failing them causes problems with tuition dollars and crowded class sizes. Also public dental schools are expected to graduate a certain number of dentists each year to address access to care in states.

To the OP, if you feel you were truly wronged then lawyer up like the above posters suggest. And if all else fails and the appeal is unsuccessful, and you TRULY want to pursue dentistry, you could always try to apply to other schools. That may be a difficult course but it may be the only one for you at this point.

I doubt you would find anyone on this site that would write a letter of support for a random dental student and sign their name to it... hopefully you can find someone at your school that can stick up for you or a local dentist/ USC grad that you know. Often times alumni and their dollars speak volumes when it comes to politics like this.

Good luck.

 

[full]

This is such a difficult situation that it seems happens on an annual basis at USC. As I am sure anyone can see there is more to this story than we are hearing. I know the faculty about whom he is speaking and the Occlusion and morphlogy class is probably the easiest class at USC. It only gets worse. We had a student in my class transfer because of difficulties with professors and another the year below us took a leave and pursued another career. My point is that the school gives you plenty of chances I went to USC and I have seen it multiple times. If you feel like a lawyer is your only option then pursue that but decide first what you are going to change and improve your efforts and the skills will come.

Plenty of chances? I only took one remedial course.

Proof: Look at the attachments in the first post. I only got one missing grade during the first two trimesters...therefore only one course to remediate the following trimester.

As far as the missing grades in the summer trimester, those would be remediated during this term, but i was dismissed before getting a chance to take them.

 

[amalgamator42]

Plenty of chances? I only took one remedial course.

Proof: Look at the attachments in the first post. I only got one missing grade during the first two trimesters...therefore only one course to remediate the following trimester.

As far as the missing grades in the summer trimester, those would be remediated during this term, but i was dismissed before getting a chance to take them.

Dude, consider it a blessing. How much debt will you be in after four years at USC? almost $400,000 before living expenses. That's the most absurd part of all of this.

I'm sorry, but $500,000+ for a DDS IS NOT WORTH IT!!!! Go reapply at some state school with reasonable tuition rates.

I read that post from your classmate, that only confirms that you probably don't belong in dentistry. We need people with compassion, not arrogance and a big mouth.

 

[doctor tooth]

your first mistake was going to USC.

 

[Tooth]

Am I the only one here who doesn't believe a first year waxed up that tooth? That was done waaay too well for a 1st year with no experience. I'm more willing to believe you had a professional wax that tooth up for you, you turned it in as your own and now you're really getting kicked out for cheating. My two cents.

 

[amalgamator42]

Am I the only one here who doesn't believe a first year waxed up that tooth? That was done waaay too well for a 1st year with no experience. I'm more willing to believe you had a professional wax that tooth up for you, you turned it in as your own and now you're really getting kicked out for cheating. My two cents.

yep

 

[orthopedo]

I have to say that the wax-up looks good occlusally, but if this were the real world and that was a crown with an open margin, would you cement it anyways because it looks pretty and you dont want to pay the increased lab costs to re-do it? No.

It would seem to me the best way to not be dismissed from dental school, is to never put yourself in the situation where they can dismiss you. Why were you in remedial occlusion to begin with? Was that also unjustified? Occlusion is not a difficult course. If you cant pass that twice, perhaps you are in the wrong profession. No shame in that, that is just life.

 

[toofache32]

Interesting. I witnessed many injustices at my dental school as well, but this smells fishy.

....If I had passed the remedial occlusion course,...

.... but it’s just that I was a little slower to develop my hand skills so I didn’t peak until the remediation course....

Plenty of chances? I only took one remedial course.

Wait....you failed a course, then took a remedial course.... and you didn't pass that either? Now you want to remediate the remedial course? How many 2nd chances are you expecting?

Again their may have been politics involved—like whether people liked me or not. I brought this up and I was assured that this hearing will be STRICTLY ON ACADEMIC MATTERS.

This speaks volumes. YOU brought this up? So you are aware that people don't like you? Why? People generally don't dislike others unless you give them a reason. I noticed you carefully make the point that there is no "academic" grounds for your dismissal, implying that non-academic issues exist. Attitude and personal interactions are the unspoken critical elements of success in any part of life....and cannot be graded nor quantified. And probably not taught either. These elements are also plenty of reason to be removed from a professional setting such as dental school.

 

[Dr. Dai Phan]

Hey…

On Monday I was disqualified from USC’s Dental Program at the start of my 2nd year.

I have until this Monday the 19th 5:00PM to appeal.

******I’M SEEKING DENTISTS TO WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT******

A letter that I can include in my appeal.

Something saying that my wax-up work shows good enough hand skills to be able to re-do the first year. That based on the pictures attached, if the "no-pass" grade was only because of this wax-up then that information should not be used in a dismissal decision since it's misleading (chipped piece of wax that happened after I turned it in!).

All I want is to be able to be sent back a year, enabling me to re-do my first year. They let a classmate of mine in this position do that, but for me they flat out kicked me out.

If I had passed the remedial occlusion course, they would have no ACADEMIC GROUNDS to have dismissed me. I want to stress this in my appeal. BTW, this was the only remediation course that I ever took.

(I honestly don't think they should have dismissed me anyways. I think politics--relationships with faculty/students--played a major. But I was assured that the decision would be based on academics only.)

Below are pictures of my wax-up final exam for the remedial occlusion course. The course director did not pass me ONLY BECAUSE PART OF THE WAX CHIPPED OFF! ATTACHED BELOW is his technical lingo explaining that.

Although I passed the written portion, he said that because the lab practical portion—the wax-up—was not passed (again only because of a super small chipped piece of wax!) that he will not pass me.

No one at the school is going to take on an opinion against any faculty, so that’s why I need your help.


If this work were done in the original occlusion class it would have not only passed but it would have been above average, but it’s just that I was a little slower to develop my hand skills so I didn’t peak until the remediation course.

LOOK, they would not even let me be held back a year. BUT me only. They let another student be held back a year. On the other hand, they flat out kicked me out.

Again their may have been politics involved—like whether people liked me or not. I brought this up and I was assured that this hearing will be STRICTLY ON ACADEMIC MATTERS. But still the outcome is very fishy to me.

****If you just wrote a FEW LINES that would be helpful. It's manly your status that I'm seeking (as weird as that sounds LOL) not some lengthy letter. For example something to the effect of:

“After viewing the pictures [or witnessing in person] of Michael's wax-up, I feel the work demonstrates a level of hand/dexterity skill that show a student can perform well in dental school. If this work was the reason why the remediation course was not passed I find it unfair. The student should be given a chance to be held back a year and retake his courses.”

***REALLY just anything. Any authority/dentist writing something will carry WEIGHT.

***I can also meet you anytime if you want to see it in person. But again this is TIME URGENT, so it must be SUNDAY OR EARLY MONDAY. I apologize for such a short time notice.

***Please address the Letter to "USC School of Dentistry Academic Affairs". You should probably hand sign it. You can scan it and mail it or I’d seriously be willing to DRIVE TO YOUR LOCATION AND PICK IT UP.

***Note that it is regarding the recent dismissal of student #14343 and that this is to support his appeal.

***If nothing else, if you could at least email a letter to navazesh@usc.edu (Associate Dean of Academic Affairs)..but addressing to usc dental academic affairs is fine, you don't need to put her name.

***Please forward me a copy too at APPEALUSC@YAHOO.COM

FEW GRADING POINTS:
1) QUALITY OF DIE KEEN CAST IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GRADE
2)GREEN WAX IS OK
3)RED ARTICULATING PAPER MARKS ARE OK

***LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING I CAN DO TO MAKE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE TO WRITE A LETTER***

I'm gonna try to write a longer more detailed explanation within the next 24 hrs but just wanted to get this up since it's time urgent!

Greetings,

I am sorry to be blunt but my take is this. How can doctor write a letter on your behalf without knowing who you are leave alone never have met you in person? If you feel you are treated unfairly or being mistreated, you should discuss with your academic advisor who may be able to help you out. If this fails, then you may seek a lawyer but I can tell you that unless there is ample evidence to back your case, you will not go anywhere but ending up paying lawyer's fee for nothing. Talk to your advisor to see if you have any other options. DP

 

[smokedmonkeys]

you are very pathetic. First, we all received mass email at school from you asking for letters, now you try to cry out loud on here. Why do you think anyone would write you any letter? nobody will do so based solely on the one-sided information you provided. I just graduated from USC and I know the course director really well because I have TA'ed that course during dental school. One thing I can tell everyone is that those doctors will not try to fail you if it wasn't justified by their grading criteria. When I TA'ed, any failing grades are always reviewed and agreed upon by at least 2 instructors. These doctors are strict and want their students to do well, but they are also very nice and will never try to dismiss anyone. One of my classmates performed so poorly and remediated every single class but still graduated on time, and sometimes I wish people like her should never be allowed to graduate dental school to go out and harm patients. I have seen her work and witness horrible patient care by her and really feel for those patients who were unlucky enough to be assigned to her. If you do not have the brain for dentistry, I recommend you find something else to do instead of trying to graduate to make money by harming people due to your incompentence. Stop making excuses and pretend that you like dentistry. You must have done something really shady or mouth-off too much to be dismissed. USC doesn't dismiss people very easily, it takes a lot a lot to let someone go. the guy who quit in my class was a social ****** who do not know how to control his temper ever. Personality goes a long way. if you do not have a personality for a good caring dentist, then don't become one so there's less burden for society.

 

[FutureDentist00]

The USC standards on the preclinical courses are really high. I am a first year at SC, and my wax ups look a lot better than the pics attached (no offense). We are really expected to perform on a very high level in our preclinical courses. Some of my classmates work is just mind blowing in waxing. So, yes a first year student can do such a wax up and even better.

 

[FutureDentist00]

Am I the only one here who doesn't believe a first year waxed up that tooth? That was done waaay too well for a 1st year with no experience. I'm more willing to believe you had a professional wax that tooth up for you, you turned it in as your own and now you're really getting kicked out for cheating. My two cents.

The USC standards on the preclinical courses are really high. I am a first year at SC, and my wax ups look a lot better than the pics attached (no offense). We are really expected to perform on a very high level in our preclinical courses. Some of my classmates work is just mind blowing in waxing. So, yes a first year student can do such a wax up and even better.

 

[bikedoc]

Greetings,

I am sorry to be blunt but my take is this. How can doctor write a letter on your behalf without knowing who you are leave alone never have met you in person? If you feel you are treated unfairly or being mistreated, you should discuss with your academic advisor who may be able to help you out. If this fails, then you may seek a lawyer but I can tell you that unless there is ample evidence to back your case, you will not go anywhere but ending up paying lawyer's fee for nothing. Talk to your advisor to see if you have any other options. DP

Well said!

 

[briansle]

The USC standards on the preclinical courses are really high. I am a first year at SC, and my wax ups look a lot better than the pics attached (no offense). We are really expected to perform on a very high level in our preclinical courses. Some of my classmates work is just mind blowing in waxing. So, yes a first year student can do such a wax up and even better.

ah yes... wax ups. they are a vital skill to dentistry. if your wax-ups suck you will suck as a dentist.

good job USC, for weeding out the incompetent. We don't want people who can't do good wax-ups in our profession.

 

[Sublimazing]

ah yes... wax ups. they are a vital skill to dentistry. if your wax-ups suck you will suck as a dentist.

good job USC, for weeding out the incompetent. We don't want people who can't do good wax-ups in our profession.

I think this guy had a few more problems than his wax ups

 

[briansle]

I think this guy had a few more problems than his wax ups

well none of those other problems matter. All that matters is your wax-ups.

Wax-ups alone is reason enough to boot his ass from USC.

way to go SC, fight on'👍

 

[Timpson]

This guy got kicked out for his attitude and bad relationships with the faculty. I heard he basically got in fights with every important instructor we had. Trust me, USC is not that hard. You would be amazed at the type of students who make it through the program here with very little problems.

 

[Msmouth]

I knew I remembered you!

Maybe they did you a favor? Change of heart?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=852930

 

[futuredds2011]

This is quite possibly one of the most hilarious things I have read on SDN. Dentistry is not for everyone. From reviewing everything here, sounds like you blast off on professors. Wait till you have that difficult patient in your chair. What are you going to do then. Maybe this is a good thing for you.

 

[T00TH D0C]

so what ended up happening? I MUST KNOW!

 

[aqz]

He graduated bottom of his class but is now making bank as the CEO of a new dental corporate chain.

 

[l4dygaga]

Update pls.

 

[tons_of_fart]

This is the same student that posted on Dentaltown a few months ago. He got transferred to a New York(?)/East Coast dental school and was potentially dismissed again during his senior year because of some other issue. He was eventually suspended and have to graduate in December.

 

[free99]

This is the same student that posted on Dentaltown a few months ago. He got transferred to a New York(?)/East Coast dental school and was potentially dismissed again during his senior year because of some other issue. He was eventually suspended and have to graduate in December.

Happen to have a link to the other thread on d town for those curious?


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[tons_of_fart]

Happen to have a link to the other thread on d town for those curious?

http://www.dentaltown.com/MessageBoard/thread.aspx?s=2&f=104&t=247897&v=1

edit: I may be wrong, since I couldn't find the same pictures on that thread. Post 222 stated that he was dismissed from an institution and transferred. Either way, it was a good read.