Just finished my first 3rd year Ob rotation and got some comments back....

[traxxradiorocks]

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I am considering Ob (right now it's Ob or Em for me) but I am just discouraged by some of the comments (just comments and no evals yet) I received from some residents and attendings....

Most of the comments were positive except I do get a lot of opposite comments from the same individuals.....
(You know... Pros: she is very intelligent, knowledgeable, etc Areas to improve: continue to read more; Pros: good presentation and history taking, Areas to improve: continue to work on getting pertinent information). And they are on the same page! Like one of those "I love you but I hate you" lines....
Suddenly, I have this influx of "areas to improve" feedbacks as all my areas to improve boxes are getting filled up.....


I worked really hard on the Gyn Surg and Ob services and I was hoping to get a honor out of it so that I have a chance of getting into a top hospital but sigh.....

 

[McGillGrad]

It sounds like they gave you good comments on what counts and told you that you need to study a bit more, which is true for 99% of students.

If it were all positive, then you would not need to complete 4th year before starting residency.

 

[Winged Scapula]

I am considering Ob (right now it's Ob or Em for me) but I am just discouraged by some of the comments (just comments and no evals yet) I received from some residents and attendings....

Most of the comments were positive except I do get a lot of opposite comments from the same individuals.....
(You know... Pros: she is very intelligent, knowledgeable, etc Areas to improve: continue to read more; Pros: good presentation and history taking, Areas to improve: continue to work on getting pertinent information). And they are on the same page! Like one of those "I love you but I hate you" lines....
Suddenly, I have this influx of "areas to improve" feedbacks as all my areas to improve boxes are getting filled up.....


I worked really hard on the Gyn Surg and Ob services and I was hoping to get a honor out of it so that I have a chance of getting into a top hospital but sigh.....

I would hardly consider those negative comments. Many of us, when doing evaluations, have a hard time giving perfect scores - that would mean that there is no place for improvement, which isn't true for anyone.

Thus, a common refrain is "needs to read more" (is there anyone who hasn't gotten that comment) or "work on presentation skills." These are so common as to be expected and should not be seen as a negative. IMHO they are akin to someone who wants to look like they are offering some steps for improvement when they really can't think of anything that you need to improve on.

 

[xanthomondo]

I am considering Ob (right now it's Ob or Em for me) but I am just discouraged by some of the comments (just comments and no evals yet) I received from some residents and attendings....

Most of the comments were positive except I do get a lot of opposite comments from the same individuals.....
(You know... Pros: she is very intelligent, knowledgeable, etc Areas to improve: continue to read more; Pros: good presentation and history taking, Areas to improve: continue to work on getting pertinent information). And they are on the same page! Like one of those "I love you but I hate you" lines....
Suddenly, I have this influx of "areas to improve" feedbacks as all my areas to improve boxes are getting filled up.....


I worked really hard on the Gyn Surg and Ob services and I was hoping to get a honor out of it so that I have a chance of getting into a top hospital but sigh.....

If those comments upset you I'd hate to see the reaction when you get actual bad comments. You may be knowledgeable for where you are now (3rd year student) but you should read more to become more knowledgeable (to reach 4th year/resident status). It's not bad or contradictory at all.

 

[Bartelby]

Those are not bad comments. If that stuff offended you then what kind of feedback could you ever receive that doesn't?

If they say you are lazy, rude, don't show up on time, uninterested, incompetent, then start to worry. Needing to read more and learn how to hone an H&P is what third year is all about.

 

[traxxradiorocks]

Perhaps I am just being paranoid.
I think I am just lucky so far that none of the residents/fellows/attendings have given me a bad feedback.

 

[deleted263296]

You're overreacting. In fact, you are lucky to get such good comments on an Ob rotation. From what I gather, Ob/Gyn people are some serious type A personalities and prone to be pretty tough on students/residents.

 

[sideways]

I would hardly consider those negative comments. Many of us, when doing evaluations, have a hard time giving perfect scores - that would mean that there is no place for improvement, which isn't true for anyone.

Thus, a common refrain is "needs to read more" (is there anyone who hasn't gotten that comment) or "work on presentation skills." These are so common as to be expected and should not be seen as a negative. IMHO they are akin to someone who wants to look like they are offering some steps for improvement when they really can't think of anything that you need to improve on.

Then why would they feel the need to be negative about it?

How about: I really enjoyed this student. She was attentive, performed exceptionally, and was enjoyable to be around. She of course has things to learn, but she appears refreshingly comfortable with that fact, and dare I say, embraces the opportunity to better herself through my critiques. Not only do I recommend, I admire.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Then why would they feel the need to be negative about it?

How about: I really enjoyed this student. She was attentive, performed exceptionally, and was enjoyable to be around. She of course has things to learn, but she appears refreshingly comfortable with that fact, and dare I say, embraces the opportunity to better herself through my critiques. Not only do I recommend, I admire.

Yeah. I'm sure that's what the resident really meant.

 

[45408]

"Needs to read more" is the most overused and useless comment. Who doesn't need to read more?

 

[jdh71]

I don't think medical students really have the appropriate context here, at least I know I didn't as an MS3, but you will all see soon enough when you are residents and attendings that you have to fill out these evaluations and you have to give some formative comments. "Continue reading more" is about a cliche as it gets and ultimately equals not saying anything at all because it's a truism and a comment generally reserved for a student for which I don't have anything really formative to say (ie. they did a good job, are appropriate for their level, no problems).

I promise if you suck, and some of you do, I'll let you know.