Just graduated with an Allied Health Science Degree but I'm now lost..any advice?

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I just graduated this December 2015 with a degree in Allied Health Sciences from UConn but I'm unsure where to go from here. I previously wanted to go to PA school but I lost my hope. I was a very hard working student even though it took me five years to get my diploma, my cGPA is not good, overall my GPA is a 2.78 mainly because I got a D in macro-economics (which wasn't required for my major) but I thought it would be a good course to take anyway and was wrong (schedule was too much). My science GPA is higher than my accumulative GPA. I didn't take the GRE's or apply to PA school because I felt like there was no hope..now I don't know what to do! I need a job but don't know where to apply or start looking with an Allied Health Science degree...

My plan is to take an EMT course to stay busy while gaining experience which starts 1/21/2016..but I don't want to be an EMT and my degree is over-qualified for this profession. I don't have much current clinical experience except I've shadowed my father who is an ophthalmologist (eye surgeon) at his surgical center and his anesthesiologist & nurse anesthetist other than that nothing...

I've thought about post-bachelorette programs but unsure what field of study to apply for and unsure if this is a good idea for me or if I would even get accepted..I've also thought of nursing but unsure how to get into it now that I already have my degree in AHS...I've also thought about radiology therapists, or nuclear medicine technologist etc..things like this that only require an associates..

Does anyone have any advice for me at this point on what direction I should go from here? I would like to do something with this degree (not waste it) and I do need a job at some point...

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I just graduated this December 2015 with a degree in Allied Health Sciences from UConn but I'm unsure where to go from here. I previously wanted to go to PA school but I lost my hope. I was a very hard working student even though it took me five years to get my diploma, my cGPA is not good, overall my GPA is a 2.78 mainly because I got a D in macro-economics (which wasn't required for my major) but I thought it would be a good course to take anyway and was wrong (schedule was too much). My science GPA is higher than my accumulative GPA. I didn't take the GRE's or apply to PA school because I felt like there was no hope..now I don't know what to do! I need a job but don't know where to apply or start looking with an Allied Health Science degree...

My plan is to take an EMT course to stay busy while gaining experience which starts 1/21/2016..but I don't want to be an EMT and my degree is over-qualified for this profession. I don't have much current clinical experience except I've shadowed my father who is an ophthalmologist (eye surgeon) at his surgical center and his anesthesiologist & nurse anesthetist other than that nothing...

I've thought about post-bachelorette programs but unsure what field of study to apply for and unsure if this is a good idea for me or if I would even get accepted..I've also thought of nursing but unsure how to get into it now that I already have my degree in AHS...I've also thought about radiology therapists, or nuclear medicine technologist etc..things like this that only require an associates..

Does anyone have any advice for me at this point on what direction I should go from here? I would like to do something with this degree (not waste it) and I do need a job at some point...
 
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Not really what post-bac stands for...

Enlighten me.....you're comment is vague and makes no sense without elaboration....

I never attempted to state what post-bach stands for, although I do know what they are...
 
Most postbacs have a minimum GPA requirement before participating of 3.0, though I believe there is one exception on the DO side that required a 2.8 to apply. You need to do grade repair, likely at a community college, by retaking courses that are equivalent to those you took at UCONN. It's funny, when people talk about state schools being easy and I mention that some are soul crushing places that destroy GPAs as badly our worse than some notorious top schools, it's UCONN to which I'm referring, and specifically to their science departments.

Take the EMT course. You're going to need a job temporarily, and it provides one that builds both clinical experience and can pay decently. I hate to break it to you, but with a degree in allied health sciences, your chances aren't fantastic at getting most jobs. This is a great opportunity for you to learn some humility- no job is beneath you if it's the best one you can land at the time.

As to future course of study, you could do hardcore GPA repair and go DO, or go into nursing, respiratory therapy, physical therapy assistant, or many other routes at the AS level. Nursing opens up the most doors down the road but is the hardest to get a spot in. If you're in CT, I know the CC system fairly well and can elaborate more, if not, do some googling.
 



This is the sort of thing I'm refferring to. It's continuing education for a better chance to get into graduate schools etc.."The Post-Baccalaureate Pre-Medical(PBPM) Program is a full-time, one-year certificate program designed for college graduates with strong academic records who have made a late decision to pursue a career in medicine. It provides the science courses students need to be eligible for medical school admission".....
 
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Most postbacs have a minimum GPA requirement before participating of 3.0, though I believe there is one exception on the DO side that required a 2.8 to apply. You need to do grade repair, likely at a community college, by retaking courses that are equivalent to those you took at UCONN. It's funny, when people talk about state schools being easy and I mention that some are soul crushing places that destroy GPAs as badly our worse than some notorious top schools, it's UCONN to which I'm referring, and specifically to their science departments.

Take the EMT course. You're going to need a job temporarily, and it provides one that builds both clinical experience and can pay decently. I hate to break it to you, but with a degree in allied health sciences, your chances aren't fantastic at getting most jobs. This is a great opportunity for you to learn some humility- no job is beneath you if it's the best one you can land at the time.

As to future course of study, you could do hardcore GPA repair and go DO, or go into nursing, respiratory therapy, physical therapy assistant, or many other routes at the AS level. Nursing opens up the most doors down the road but is the hardest to get a spot in. If you're in CT, I know the CC system fairly well and can elaborate more, if not, do some googling.

Thanks for the honest reply jack it was helpful..I am in CT so any info would be helpful...as for repairing my gpa at a community college I have thought about this but it's also a lot if money and crazy because I'm so done with school mentally..but I think it's gotta be done...do you know anywhere in CT I can go do nursing? And what type of nursing I should go for it I did do that? I was even thinking dietician but idk..

With my current AHS degree from Uconn I feel I've covered almost everything from Orgo 1&2,, inorganic 1&2, bio 1&2, botany, microbio, genetics, anatomy&physio 1&2, psych 1&2, abnormal psych, developmental psych, genetics of cancer, health & wellness for life, systems of health care, medical terminology, health hazards in the workplace, biomedical ethics, writing in scientific research, health care management and all gen Eds. Etc...which I now feel was all completely worthless....
 
Thanks for the honest reply jack it was helpful..I am in CT so any info would be helpful...as for repairing my gpa at a community college I have thought about this but it's also a lot if money and crazy because I'm so done with school mentally..but I think it's gotta be done...do you know anywhere in CT I can go do nursing? And what type of nursing I should go for it I did do that? I was even thinking dietician but idk..

With my current AHS degree from Uconn I feel I've covered almost everything from Orgo 1&2,, inorganic 1&2, bio 1&2, botany, microbio, genetics, anatomy&physio 1&2, psych 1&2, abnormal psych, developmental psych, genetics of cancer, health & wellness for life, systems of health care, medical terminology, health hazards in the workplace, biomedical ethics, writing in scientific research, health care management and all gen Eds. Etc...which I now feel was all completely worthless....
Most degrees are largely worthless, honestly. Though you might find yourself drawing on obscure skills you learned in these courses down the line, and the degree itself will put you up a notch above other applicants when it comes time looking for a job, it isn't the sort of degree that can land you an entry level job.

http://www.ct.edu/academics/nursing#about

https://www.manchestercc.edu/academ...cs-science-and-health-careers/health-careers/

These are the two systems I'm most familiar with. The nursing app is a ranked system that bases your rank on your grades in intro chem, A&P, and this intake test they have you take, with 75% of applicants being selected based on rank and 25% being randomly selected from the remaining pool of candidates. All other programs, such as those at MCC, are selected by the department heads of the various programs- some have a ranking system, some don't. Some programs have waitlists that are a year or more in length, and each program has it's own prereqs aside from nursing. The various other CCs have their own allied health departments, you can do some googling to find each of them. For the most upward mobility, I would recommend nursing- if you can get into an ASN program, you already have a bachelor's degree, so getting your NP is a lot easier with bridge programs such as this one:

https://www.barry.edu/nursing/msn/rn-bridge-program/

that essentially allow you to skip getting a BSN and jump right into the NP program after half a semester of coursework.

If you've got questions about any other allied health fields, I'd stop by the clinician (non-physician) area as well. Allnurses is a great resource if you decide to go the nursing route. And I was a respiratory therapist previously myself- it's a great job, but you don't get a lot of respect, the local job market is tight, and there is very little upward mobility. It's easier in many ways than being a nurse if you're comfortable with critical care, but your only forward path clinically is getting into PA, medical, AA, or a direct entry NP school.
 
you don't get a 2.78 by getting one D over 5 years of work. be more honest with yourself.

PA or BSN/MSN/NP school is an intense multi-year stretch of hard classes, fast-paced rotations, and then a very long exam - be honest with yourself about whether you really want to be in school again.
 
Enlighten me.....you're comment is vague and makes no sense without elaboration....

I never attempted to state what post-bach stands for, although I do know what they are...
When you find yourself in this state, please proceed straight to Google. You said "post-bachelorette" which is exactly what "attempted to state what post-bach stands for" means. If you used Google to understand what's happening here, one of the hits would be the TV show that shows you that you are not using language that will help you get what you need. http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette

English is unnecessarily difficult, but nobody's going to make it easy for you. Americans are subject to a whole lot of pointless gentrified British history. "Bachelor" means unmarried man. A "bachelors degree" is a very old term implying that upper class British men tended to wait to get married until they were done with their education and were employed. A "Bachelorette" simply means an unmarried woman and is usually used in the context of a pre-wedding party. A "Baccalaureate" brings in the term "laurels" which are the graphic design associated with military triumph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_wreath). So "baccalaureate" means the honors associated with completing an undergraduate degree. And Post-baccalaureate simply means any college work you do after completing a bachelors degree. For better or worse, it has nothing to do with marital status, but if there were any justice in the world it ought to be used to mean an unmarriageable man who squanders the accomplishment of a college degree.

So English has thrown you under the bus (yes, google "throw under bus" now) and it's up to you to get out from under that bus, if you want to land in a well-paid job with responsibilities requiring that you communicate well with your co-workers.

Anybody really bored with this? Tell me about it. I just had to do the above with "pre-eclampsia" so I was loaded for bear.
 
All is not lost! Don't give up hope! Okay, so your GPA is NOT stellar and it definitely sounds like you have some soul-searching to do, but PA schools accept lower GPAs. So do some D.O. schools. I'd highly suggest FOCUS first. If PA is what you want to do, then shadow a PA to see if it's what you want to do. PA schools definitely want to see some commitment to the health care field, and a job as an EMT will certainly demonstrate that.

Exhibit A: Northwestern's PA program only requires a 2.8 GPA. http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/sites/pa/prospective-students/admissions/prerequisites.html
Exhibit B: Check out Dominican University in River Forest, IL. It's brand new. I'm pretty sure there are many new/newish programs willing to take a shot on an applicant with lower GPAs (sorry, I'm only speaking about Illinois because I live here, but I am pretty certain the GPA standard is not as high as it is for MD programs)

Regarding nursing programs - you don't need to have a Bachelors in Nursing - there are general direct entry Master degree programs like the one at Rush if nursing is what you want to do with your life. Again, go shadow a nurse. Interview some nurses. Volunteer in an ER and ask nurses and doctors and P.A.s what they like about their jobs, etc.

I would definitely suggest plugging into your career services office at UConn or if they have alumni services office - it sounds like you need some direction and focus and I highly doubt you'll find what you need on the interwebs.

Don't PANIC.

If you still want PA school, I'd suggest APPLYING. If at first you don't succeed, get an EMT certification (you can usually get those from a community college if money's an issue), find a job as an EMT, and apply again through CASPA next year...

I'd also recommend taking a year of science courses at your state college (a diy post-baccalaureate program) to bump up your GPA.

Slow and steady wins the race. Apply to A LOT of PA schools - who knows, you might get in your first time around.

BUT FOCUS FIRST. Make sure this path is where you want to go, because if you're not sure, it will come across in your personal statements.
 
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When you find yourself in this state, please proceed straight to Google. You said "post-bachelorette" which is exactly what "attempted to state what post-bach stands for" means. If you used Google to understand what's happening here, one of the hits would be the TV show that shows you that you are not using language that will help you get what you need. http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette

English is unnecessarily difficult, but nobody's going to make it easy for you. Americans are subject to a whole lot of pointless gentrified British history. "Bachelor" means unmarried man. A "bachelors degree" is a very old term implying that upper class British men tended to wait to get married until they were done with their education and were employed. A "Bachelorette" simply means an unmarried woman and is usually used in the context of a pre-wedding party. A "Baccalaureate" brings in the term "laurels" which are the graphic design associated with military triumph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_wreath). So "baccalaureate" means the honors associated with completing an undergraduate degree. And Post-baccalaureate simply means any college work you do after completing a bachelors degree. For better or worse, it has nothing to do with marital status, but if there were any justice in the world it ought to be used to mean an unmarriageable man who squanders the accomplishment of a college degree.

So English has thrown you under the bus (yes, google "throw under bus" now) and it's up to you to get out from under that bus, if you want to land in a well-paid job with responsibilities requiring that you communicate well with your co-workers.

Anybody really bored with this? Tell me about it. I just had to do the above with "pre-eclampsia" so I was loaded for bear.

Okay my apologies. I understand what you mean now.
 
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you don't get a 2.78 by getting one D over 5 years of work. be more honest with yourself.

PA or BSN/MSN/NP school is an intense multi-year stretch of hard classes, fast-paced rotations, and then a very long exam - be honest with yourself about whether you really want to be in school again.


True. D was my lowest grade received. But you're right, I did also not do great in some courses where I should have. In 1 course (history) I got a 79 for a C...and an 80 was considered a B and this grade was based on my own written essay. I challenged my prof. and brought my book with citations but he did not like me at all for some reason and wouldn't give me 1 extra point for the B....I also received a C+ in orgo, C in genetics & a C+ in medical terminology...so yeah I messed up but most grades were B/B+ and a few A's. I also forgot to mention I have ADD but I chose not to document it because I didn't want the school putting me in their "learn disabilities program" I think that's BS to be labeled like that, I had tutoring, I had a consistent and dedicated study routine and put in A LOT of work but still my results don't represent my work ethic...maybe my intelligence but not my work ethic.
 
When you find yourself in this state, please proceed straight to Google. You said "post-bachelorette" which is exactly what "attempted to state what post-bach stands for" means. If you used Google to understand what's happening here, one of the hits would be the TV show that shows you that you are not using language that will help you get what you need. http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette

English is unnecessarily difficult, but nobody's going to make it easy for you. Americans are subject to a whole lot of pointless gentrified British history. "Bachelor" means unmarried man. A "bachelors degree" is a very old term implying that upper class British men tended to wait to get married until they were done with their education and were employed. A "Bachelorette" simply means an unmarried woman and is usually used in the context of a pre-wedding party. A "Baccalaureate" brings in the term "laurels" which are the graphic design associated with military triumph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_wreath). So "baccalaureate" means the honors associated with completing an undergraduate degree. And Post-baccalaureate simply means any college work you do after completing a bachelors degree. For better or worse, it has nothing to do with marital status, but if there were any justice in the world it ought to be used to mean an unmarriageable man who squanders the accomplishment of a college degree.

So English has thrown you under the bus (yes, google "throw under bus" now) and it's up to you to get out from under that bus, if you want to land in a well-paid job with responsibilities requiring that you communicate well with your co-workers.

Anybody really bored with this? Tell me about it. I just had to do the above with "pre-eclampsia" so I was loaded for bear.
Bingo.
 
my cGPA is not good, overall my GPA is a 2.78.
I don't want to be an EMT and my degree is over-qualified for this profession.
You were a C+ student who took 5 years to graduate and seem to have no focus in your professional life. Don't somehow think that you're over-qualified to be an EMT. Spend a month in a busy ER/Trauma Center and watch the techs and medics that come in the door.
 
So do you mind answering the actual question now?
You mean your question of "what do I do now?"

1. Get out in the health care world, observe, have conversations, be polite, learn as much as you can. Volunteering in an ED is a good way to go about this. Volunteer a minimum of 4 hrs a week forever.
2. Over time, identify at least 3 roles in health care that look like jobs you'd want to do. Maybe the nurse manager who runs the ED board has a job you like. Maybe the paramedics. Maybe the neurologist. Maybe the triage nurse. It shouldn't be hard to identify 3 or more. If you can't identify 3, then health care probably doesn't make sense for you.
3. Over time, by becoming more self aware through experiences that show you how you do under pressure, and how you do when faced with uncomfortable responsibility, use your hard-won self knowledge to make the best guess you can about what job you want to pursue with vigor and seriousness.
4. Over time, form your own opinion about whether you want to do more schooling or not.
5. As you identify the job you prefer to pursue, and as you reconcile that preference with how much more schooling you want to do, talk to people who have the job you want, and find out how they got that job.

To be very frank with you, you are asking career questions that the world expects you to try very hard to answer during undergrad. Graduating with a bachelors, and having no idea what to do with that bachelors, is a great way to find yourself unemployed and unemployable. Nobody expects you to have the rest of your life thoroughly figured out right now, but the reasonable knowledgeable adults who might help you out (such as those you've met on this thread) expect you to have done a great deal of difficult but productive struggling on your own. Based on your first post, you appear to expect others to figure things out for you. Not good.

Best of luck to you.
 
So do you mind answering the actual question now?
Don't do EMT if you aren't interested -- that's not going to open med school doors for you. With a 2.8 GPA you are going to need to take classes and build up your GPA -- there's no real shortcuts. For DO you can likely do it a bit quicker with grade replacement, for MD that will be a much longer road. Fwiw, shadowing parents doesn't really "count" in terms of shadowing -- they are inevitably going to shelter you from a lot of the less enjoyable aspects of the job, so you should see if there's anyone a bit more distant you can shadow with, or maybe just volunteer in the local ED. I wouldn't even mention shadowing your parent in an application setting. Hope that helps.
 
You were a C+ student who took 5 years to graduate and seem to have no focus in your professional life. Don't somehow think that you're over-qualified to be an EMT. Spend a month in a busy ER/Trauma Center and watch the techs and medics that come in the door.

A C+ at a rigorous university isn't that bad in my honest opinion especially given my other life circumstances. But yes you're right, I do need the clinical experience more than anything and I understand it's actually more important than books. So don't somehow think I'm underqualified to be an EMT..I got a B+ in both Anatomy & physiology 1&2, B+ in inorganic 1 and a B in inorganic 2. An A in biology 1, a B in biology 2, I got a B in Nurition, B in communication, A- in english, an A in writing in scientific research, a B in research methods, a B+ in management for professionals, B+ in health care system & insurances, an A in health and wellness for life, B in geography, B in abnormal psych, a B in sociology, B's in all my maths, C+ in orgo lab.
 
You mean your question of "what do I do now?"

1. Get out in the health care world, observe, have conversations, be polite, learn as much as you can. Volunteering in an ED is a good way to go about this. Volunteer a minimum of 4 hrs a week forever.
2. Over time, identify at least 3 roles in health care that look like jobs you'd want to do. Maybe the nurse manager who runs the ED board has a job you like. Maybe the paramedics. Maybe the neurologist. Maybe the triage nurse. It shouldn't be hard to identify 3 or more. If you can't identify 3, then health care probably doesn't make sense for you.
3. Over time, by becoming more self aware through experiences that show you how you do under pressure, and how you do when faced with uncomfortable responsibility, use your hard-won self knowledge to make the best guess you can about what job you want to pursue with vigor and seriousness.
4. Over time, form your own opinion about whether you want to do more schooling or not.
5. As you identify the job you prefer to pursue, and as you reconcile that preference with how much more schooling you want to do, talk to people who have the job you want, and find out how they got that job.

To be very frank with you, you are asking career questions that the world expects you to try very hard to answer during undergrad. Graduating with a bachelors, and having no idea what to do with that bachelors, is a great way to find yourself unemployed and unemployable. Nobody expects you to have the rest of your life thoroughly figured out right now, but the reasonable knowledgeable adults who might help you out (such as those you've met on this thread) expect you to have done a great deal of difficult but productive struggling on your own. Based on your first post, you appear to expect others to figure things out for you. Not good.

Best of luck to you.

Thanks for the opinon. I've done quite a lot of productive struggling on my own. I don't expect others to figure things out for me at all, I'm simply here for advice and opinions. What did I say in my previous post that made you say this?
 
Don't do EMT if you aren't interested -- that's not going to open med school doors for you. With a 2.8 GPA you are going to need to take classes and build up your GPA -- there's no real shortcuts. For DO you can likely do it a bit quicker with grade replacement, for MD that will be a much longer road. Fwiw, shadowing parents doesn't really "count" in terms of shadowing -- they are inevitably going to shelter you from a lot of the less enjoyable aspects of the job, so you should see if there's anyone a bit more distant you can shadow with, or maybe just volunteer in the local ED. I wouldn't even mention shadowing your parent in an application setting. Hope that helps.

True thanks for the opinon. MEd school for me isn't even on the radar anymore neither is DO school. At this point it's PA or Nursing.
 
All is not lost! Don't give up hope! Okay, so your GPA is NOT stellar and it definitely sounds like you have some soul-searching to do, but PA schools accept lower GPAs. So do some D.O. schools. I'd highly suggest FOCUS first. If PA is what you want to do, then shadow a PA to see if it's what you want to do. PA schools definitely want to see some commitment to the health care field, and a job as an EMT will certainly demonstrate that.

Exhibit A: Northwestern's PA program only requires a 2.8 GPA. http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/sites/pa/prospective-students/admissions/prerequisites.html
Exhibit B: Check out Dominican University in River Forest, IL. It's brand new. I'm pretty sure there are many new/newish programs willing to take a shot on an applicant with lower GPAs (sorry, I'm only speaking about Illinois because I live here, but I am pretty certain the GPA standard is not as high as it is for MD programs)

Regarding nursing programs - you don't need to have a Bachelors in Nursing - there are general direct entry Master degree programs like the one at Rush if nursing is what you want to do with your life. Again, go shadow a nurse. Interview some nurses. Volunteer in an ER and ask nurses and doctors and P.A.s what they like about their jobs, etc.

I would definitely suggest plugging into your career services office at UConn or if they have alumni services office - it sounds like you need some direction and focus and I highly doubt you'll find what you need on the interwebs.

Don't PANIC.

If you still want PA school, I'd suggest APPLYING. If at first you don't succeed, get an EMT certification (you can usually get those from a community college if money's an issue), find a job as an EMT, and apply again through CASPA next year...

I'd also recommend taking a year of science courses at your state college (a diy post-baccalaureate program) to bump up your GPA.

Slow and steady wins the race. Apply to A LOT of PA schools - who knows, you might get in your first time around.

BUT FOCUS FIRST. Make sure this path is where you want to go, because if you're not sure, it will come across in your personal statements.


Thanks so much!
 
A C+ at a rigorous university isn't that bad in my honest opinion especially given my other life circumstances. But yes you're right, I do need the clinical experience more than anything and I understand it's actually more important than books. So don't somehow think I'm underqualified to be an EMT..I got a B+ in both Anatomy & physiology 1&2, B+ in inorganic 1 and a B in inorganic 2. An A in biology 1, a B in biology 2, I got a B in Nurition, B in communication, A- in english, an A in writing in scientific research, a B in research methods, a B+ in management for professionals, B+ in health care system & insurances, an A in health and wellness for life, B in geography, B in abnormal psych, a B in sociology, B's in all my maths, C+ in orgo lab.
I never said you were under qualified. The way your message read, it made it sound like being an EMT or the education of becoming an EMT was beneath you.

If you go through with the EMT, try to get a job as an ER tech in a teaching hospital. A close friend of mine did that (can from a low income situation), was able to get accepted into the schools BSN program and have the hospital pay his tuition through work study. He graduated, spent 4 years in ICU and is now in his second year of a CRNA program.
 
I never said you were under qualified. The way your message read, it made it sound like being an EMT or the education of becoming an EMT was beneath you.

If you go through with the EMT, try to get a job as an ER tech in a teaching hospital. A close friend of mine did that (can from a low income situation), was able to get accepted into the schools BSN program and have the hospital pay his tuition through work study. He graduated, spent 4 years in ICU and is now in his second year of a CRNA program.

Thanks for the info. I will definitely look into ER tech positions.
 
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