Kansas City programs

[Newt23]

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I haven't heard the greatest things about these programs. Anyone have any news from the trail about these programs (UMKC, KU)?

 

[CookieMonster55]

KU
-- Mid-tier midwest program with good surgical experience, friendly faculty, good fellowship placement. Residents seemed very happy and felt well-trained. 3 residents/ year.
-- Surgical experience starts 1st year. Good support from faculty, senior residents. ~150 cataracts. Other surgical numbers adequate.
-- Wet lab available but not used much. No surgical simulator. (Residents did not feel this was a negative since they start surgery right away anyway.)
-- Brand new surgical center on top of clinic.
-- Great trauma experience. Great peds experience.
-- Busy VA
-- All sub-specialties covered.
-- No fellows.
-- Call manageable. Split between 1st and 2nd years
-- "Family feel". Very non-malignant, supportive environment
-- Not much research going on. May not be best fit for those very interested in research or going into academic medicine
-- Kansas City is very affordable, traffic not too bad. Actually a pretty fun city, although not as exciting as bigger cities, the coasts, etc.

 

[AlPachena]

KU
-- Mid-tier midwest program with good surgical experience, friendly faculty, good fellowship placement. Residents seemed very happy and felt well-trained. 3 residents/ year.
-- Surgical experience starts 1st year. Good support from faculty, senior residents. ~150 cataracts. Other surgical numbers adequate.
-- Wet lab available but not used much. No surgical simulator. (Residents did not feel this was a negative since they start surgery right away anyway.)
-- Brand new surgical center on top of clinic.
-- Great trauma experience. Great peds experience.
-- Busy VA
-- All sub-specialties covered.
-- No fellows.
-- Call manageable. Split between 1st and 2nd years
-- "Family feel". Very non-malignant, supportive environment
-- Not much research going on. May not be best fit for those very interested in research or going into academic medicine
-- Kansas City is very affordable, traffic not too bad. Actually a pretty fun city, although not as exciting as bigger cities, the coasts, etc.

Thanks for the info!

It seems like the two KC programs have a pretty comparable reputation, no? Both somewhere around middle tier?

 

[Ophthoresident11]

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[Newt23]

That is an awesome review! I had concerns about the program…I've heard them from quite a few people. It is nice to get a sense for their strengths too

 

[WilburSK]

bump

 

[WilburSK]

Does anyone have sense for better surgical volume or fellowship match?

 

[AgentMichaelScarn]

I didn't interview at both so I can't compare, but UMKC told us surgical volumes in percentiles. From my notes for the day: 64th percentile overall for numbers. I'm not sure what that correlates to numbers-wise, but I don't remember them as having great numbers. Chair and PD there seemed very sharp. Peds is a real strength. Call seems light (in a good way).