Kennedy Assassination - Umbrella

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WHAT?!?!?!?!?

Well, it's always an interesting topic considering it changed the course of american politics, and some people think american culture and society at large...

So, was reading the Guns thread and thinking about my old post that sort of set off the whole incident a few months back, about spending some time in the cards clinic and a patient being a secret service guy for kennedy and telling me who he "knows" was involved...

Anyway, so I stumbled upon some internet pages yesterday, (I like the topic, though I'm not a conspiracy theorist AT ALL really. I don't buy into Roswell or 9/11 etc etc.) the pages had photos from old declassified CIA archives that talked about ways the CIA kills, poisons and guns that shoot around corners and crazy stuff they invent and research and use, some interesting books out there from retired guys, like urine and nitric stuff and how to kill sort of Macgyver-ish... (hate posting anything here as its imbedded into my psyche as a writer that you shouldn't really write anything imitatible...)

Point being, there were some photos I'd never heard of or had seen before of the "umbrella man." Anyone ever see these photos or look into this theory? Talked about trajectory, what photos the Warren Commission was NEVER presented with, talked about man who was hit with frags from bullet, that, if shot, from library, would have missed Kennedy by 200 feet, (I forget the guys' name, but he's still alive - man who was hit), how the unexplainable neck exit wound (which didn't have a matching entrance wound) was really an entrance wound to this special sort of dart/bullet. i forget the name. cool stuff actually.

Any of you guys follow this or have thoughts? I think it's a fascinating topic in US history. Who knows, I guess there's a movie in here somewhere, where a guy walks into a hospital, knows he's dying, weeks to live, and confesses it all, passes polygraph, has photos of his own, and basically, on his deathbed lays it all out there.

As a non-conspiracist, looking at minute details of the case, shot times, sunny day/umbrella dude (who after the shot didn't react like those around him), the magic bullet (thats really the key in this, its simply UNSCATHED) trajectory, witnesses, LBJ not reacting even though he has closer than SService who did react, etc, photos of Oswald, chin lines, still really point to something obviously bigger here. One day maybe we'll know...anyone think it was just Oswald? Anyone think we'll ever find out, still? How this was kept under wraps for 1/2 century...

thoughts? takers? back to MCAT studies? 😳

D712
 
Sounds like Dale Gribble of Temple (Arlen), Texas from King Of The Hill.. :laugh:


Link?


WHAT?!?!?!?!?

Well, it's always an interesting topic considering it changed the course of american politics, and some people think american culture and society at large...

So, was reading the Guns thread and thinking about my old post that sort of set off the whole incident a few months back, about spending some time in the cards clinic and a patient being a secret service guy for kennedy and telling me who he "knows" was involved...

Anyway, so I stumbled upon some internet pages yesterday, (I like the topic, though I'm not a conspiracy theorist AT ALL really. I don't buy into Roswell or 9/11 etc etc.) the pages had photos from old declassified CIA archives that talked about ways the CIA kills, poisons and guns that shoot around corners and crazy stuff they invent and research and use, some interesting books out there from retired guys, like urine and nitric stuff and how to kill sort of Macgyver-ish... (hate posting anything here as its imbedded into my psyche as a writer that you shouldn't really write anything imitatible...)

Point being, there were some photos I'd never heard of or had seen before of the "umbrella man." Anyone ever see these photos or look into this theory? Talked about trajectory, what photos the Warren Commission was NEVER presented with, talked about man who was hit with frags from bullet, that, if shot, from library, would have missed Kennedy by 200 feet, (I forget the guys' name, but he's still alive - man who was hit), how the unexplainable neck exit wound (which didn't have a matching entrance wound) was really an entrance wound to this special sort of dart/bullet. i forget the name. cool stuff actually.

Any of you guys follow this or have thoughts? I think it's a fascinating topic in US history. Who knows, I guess there's a movie in here somewhere, where a guy walks into a hospital, knows he's dying, weeks to live, and confesses it all, passes polygraph, has photos of his own, and basically, on his deathbed lays it all out there.

As a non-conspiracist, looking at minute details of the case, shot times, sunny day/umbrella dude (who after the shot didn't react like those around him), the magic bullet (thats really the key in this, its simply UNSCATHED) trajectory, witnesses, LBJ not reacting even though he has closer than SService who did react, etc, photos of Oswald, chin lines, still really point to something obviously bigger here. One day maybe we'll know...anyone think it was just Oswald? Anyone think we'll ever find out, still? How this was kept under wraps for 1/2 century...

thoughts? takers? back to MCAT studies? 😳

D712
 
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I'll search around for yesterday's history from computer. And post after lunch. 🙂

So, Dale Gribble, haha. But it seems more Gribble to me to think that it was ONE guy...so much evidence to the contrary...

Off to lunch...

D712
 
again, embarassed that i stumbled on these sites, but photos are photos...

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/GoD.html (this is the photo heavy one)

umbrella one:

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/TUM.html

it's not like this stuff is only on insane-gribble websites, 😀 it's verifiable all over the place...national archives probably.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Hoover.html

again, certainly not the A&A Journal of its industry, but again, docs and photos can probably be easily verified.

Aside from Kennedy stuff, I'm really not a nutjob. 😱

more stuff i just found (everyone is late for lunch....)

http://www.jfk-assassination.de/articles/umbrella.php
http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100tum.html

Ha, I think the more I put up the worse my case gets, but judge photos and viewpoints for yourselves.

As an aside, I searched Umbrella and Kennedy and got THIS SDN thread on google hit. Talk about circular logic.

So, point of record: who says conspiracy and who says LONE shooter?

D712
 
And here I am, thinking of "Resident Evil".
:meanie:

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Didn't we discuss this before? It's Garland.

😉

haha, yes, but dude...it ain't garland.

I've been watching it on old dvds...there are multiple maps, story plots, and references to it being temple.

the army base...the raceway...the major regional hospital...the position relative to houston...the long drive to dallas for peggy's boggle championship..the PICTURE of arlen on the weather map when nancy gribble reports on the killer tornado..there is no way it could be garland.

yeah, I'm hardcore! I don't care what wiki says.
 
I don't know too much about this one. I've half heartedly looked into it, and obviously conspiracies abound. However, I do find it difficult to believe that this was the work of some sole "patsy" with a very sketchy past (professional).

My personal "reflex" view is that he had some very powerful enemies indeed. Not some former U.S. Marine with, again, an extremely checkered past. I'm not willing to speculate as to whom those enemies were/are, as I've not researched this issue enough to say the least. But, suffice it to say that they were/are powerful enough to take down the president of the U.S. This is my opinion only.

cf
 
why is this subject still even considered a conspiracy?

the CIA was pissed at Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs



You have a CIA official in David Morales who links both the assassination of JFK and RFK.

He openly stated that he was involved in the assassination of both Kennedys in 1978, and suffered a heart attack several weeks before he was to testify.


The BBC documentary in 2007 shows footage of Morales and 2 other CIA officials in the Ambassador Hotel the night RFK was assassinated.


The men at 4:05 are identified as David Morales and other CIA members

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0eh0hRlfCU[/YOUTUBE]






[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw-6SrVs0K8&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]



Acoustic analysis performed in 2008 proved there were more shots fired in the kitchen pantry, than was possible from a single gun.


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAp6kbLYkg&feature=PlayList&p=28DDAF01315E23A6&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=75[/YOUTUBE]


The coroners report of the RFK assassination states sirhan was never close enough to fire the fatal bullet.


Oswald, and Sirhan were likely hypnotized products of the CIA's "project mkulltra"...


Trained to be in position to take the fall and not remember why they were there, or as Oswald himself stated

"I am just a patsy".

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZYAIiErTNg&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]



Their history of being tied to communists and "mentally unstable" made them perfect for this role.


The real assassins were trained professionals….the CIA...
 
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Well, that's interesting stuff Izzy. And that's the problem really, just because Oswald claimed he was a patsy, means really nothing in light of the fact that if he was the shooter, a lone shooter, what was he going to say??? I mean, maybe he just watched the Jerry Lewis movie The Patsy. 😀

I prefer forensic evidence when thinking of conspiracies. 😎 What people say is always less important to me than evidence and photos and videos. Like the umbrella that people think is so funny. 🙂

But the CIA theory, now that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about... :idea:
The hypnotized Mkulltra CIA stuff and Sirhan Sirhan is certainly conspiratorial stuff and I'd not heard that angle before. I wrote my thesis during undergrad on the unabomber, and I was familiar with these tests having dug up some Kaczynski stuff back in the day.

But it's interesting because that secret service guy I saw back in the clinic said it was johnson and your stuff supports that in full...

D712
 
Reminds me of this song I saw some jug and washboard band, whose name I don't recall, sing when I was in college.

I was born in Dallas in 1952,
Lee Harvey moved across the street on Bentley Avenue,
He used to throw the ball to me when I was just a kid,
They say he shot the president---I don't think he did.

Cho: And Lee Harvey was a friend of mine,
He used to take me fishing all the time,
He used to throw the ball to me when I was just a kid,
They say he shot the president but I don't think he did.

I've seen them pictures of him with the family and a gun,
Shadows were pointin' every-which-a-way;
'Twas only just for fun,
Someone faked those photos; that's not the way it is,
They say he shot the president; I don't think he did.

I seen it on the TV when Lee Harvey got gunned down,
Murdered by Jack Ruby---the biggest sleaze in town,
He stuck that gun into his ribs;
Says, "Here's lookin' at you, kid,
Ruby killed Lee Harvey---TV proved he did!!
(Bennison/Cotton)
 
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