key in hole PAT question

[rocknightmare]

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Say you have a rectagonal box, with one corner missing. Can place that box through a rectangole hole of the same size? I keep reading different things in different books.

Thanks,

 

[HBomb]

Hopefully I understand your question right but here's my interpretation:

Two out of three projections will be a rectangle, the last will be a rectangle with one edge cut. So to answer you question, the answer is yes.

So say, you shave off the corner going front to back:
front/back: rectangle with cut
left/right: rectangle
top/bottom: rectangle

Kaplan says to think of it as a shadow or a flashlight shining on the object. That's not a bad way to think about it.

Good luck.

 

[rocknightmare]

in your example,

wouldn't the front/back have a cut out corner
and so would the top/bottom (looking from top for example)

I apolgize for my bad drawning..

Anyways, if there was a rectangle the same size as the top of that figure would that the be an option?

how about a square the size of the right ?

 

[HBomb]

From the right/left, it would be a rectangle.
From the front/back, it would be a rectangle (different dimensions). It will not have a cut out corner.
From the top bottom, it would be a rectange with a corner that is cut.

This is going to sound silly, but break out the leggo set and build this object. Maybe this will make things clear. I'm totally serious here. You definitely need to get this concept/visualization down to be successful at most of the PAT.

 

[rocknightmare]

the problem for me is not the visualization.. its the rules.. does the object have to fit through the thing "tightly" or can the hole be bigger than the object is my main question i guess...

say that we are still talking about my box.. and it had that whole top right corner missing, then from the right/left it has to be rectangle, and from back/front it has to be a rectangle, but from top/bottom it can either be a rectangle or with a rectangle that is missing hte top right corner.. am i making sense??

 

[dane4695]

Everything must fit perfectly. PERFECTLY. On the test it should be "obvious to the trained eye" to judge the differences in say, cuts out of a corner.

 

[HBomb]

the problem for me is not the visualization.. its the rules.. does the object have to fit through the thing "tightly" or can the hole be bigger than the object is my main question i guess...

say that we are still talking about my box.. and it had that whole top right corner missing, then from the right/left it has to be rectangle, and from back/front it has to be a rectangle, but from top/bottom it can either be a rectangle or with a rectangle that is missing hte top right corner.. am i making sense??

oic. yes, it must fit perfectly (just as described in previous post) without rotation. it should fit to scale.

 

[ems5184]

it can be rotated hbomb - in fact, it almost always is rotated in some direction, but yes, it does have to fit perfectly

 

[HBomb]

I meant it can't rotate once it starts through the opening...so that a cube isn't allowed to fit through a circular opening.