Lack of Honesty in the NRMP and Matching process

[frenetic]

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I sure am glad you took the time to post that you took the time to look up my specialty.

Did your poll that you posted on an anonymous forum help you choose your rank list for residency? 😉 weird

You're creepy.

🙂

Well, since you are resorting to calling names, let me oblige you and share how I really feel about you. You are a judgmental a**hole who is a complete tool and is in serious need of a lesson in humility. I bet you are a little twerp with a small penis who acts macho only on a public forum but is a coward in real life. I bet you wouldn't have dared to call me creepy to my face. In other words, you are a complete POS who really should be ignored and left to wallow in his own immaturity, arrogance, narcissism, and inflated ego and self-worth.

You seem to be projecting onto me the fact that you are the one who is the total creep and weirdo in this scenario. I didn't need to do a search for your specialty since you frequently boast on the radiology forum. Please get over yourself. You are simply not that significant to warrant such an effort on my part. Acing Step I and getting into a radiology residency doesn't make you a god or the center of the universe. I am glad you did a search for my earlier post though. That action on your part definitely qualifies as creepy and weird in my book. The truth must really hurt. You really need to get a life instead of demeaning people that you don't know. I guess your mama didn't teach you manners or perhaps you are compensating for a small penis. In any case, it is precisely because of people like you that I won't miss medical school after I graduate this year. I hope that the future radiology residents that I deal with will be more mature and less arrogant than you seem to be.

 

[Idiopathic]

I still cant get over someone who readily admits that they dont go to a very good school, didnt do well on tests and in fact failed a national standardized exam twice, feels blackballed by his own program, admits to having poor interpersonal skills and blames not matching on the way the match is set up?

Come on, man. Assuming you arent trolling, maybe its time to take a look in the mirror, and realize that better applicants than you fail to match every year. Perhaps if you took some responsibility, it would show through and things would begin to correct themselves. I am happy that you got a scramble spot, because Im sure you deserve it (some people think any US MD deserves a spot over everyone else 🙄 )

 

[OUsooner]

What a genuine disaster of a thread! I love it!

The only more entertaining post is the poll you posted on a public forum, asking where you should do your residency.

I personally see no problem with BigFrank's responses. If it looks like ****, smells like ****: call it ****.

If you are going into PM&R, and it sure seems your cat is out of the bag, than its no wonder that your lack of interpersonal skills kept you from getting a spot. I can think of few other fields that place more value on interpersonal skills than PM&R. Anyways, I hope things work out for you. I also hope you're not at my program.

 

[frenetic]

What a genuine disaster of a thread! I love it!

The only more entertaining post is the poll you posted on a public forum, asking where you should do your residency.

I personally see no problem with BigFrank's responses. If it looks like ****, smells like ****: call it ****.

If you are going into PM&R, and it sure seems your cat is out of the bag, than its no wonder that your lack of interpersonal skills kept you from getting a spot. I can think of few other fields that place more value on interpersonal skills than PM&R. Anyways, I hope things work out for you. I also hope you're not at my program.

You are an idiot. First, are you directing your post at me or the OP because I am thoroughly confused and have no idea what you are talking about? I am glad that you found my earlier poll entertaining. That poll was a naive and misguided attempt on my part to gather information and opinions on programs that I was seriously considering. Given what I know now about the level of maturity on these forums, it was probably a bad decision to share that poll with idiots like you. Grow up.

 

[njbmd]

Hi everyone,

This is not a post meant to complain and whine, but to let know some truths which somehow have been IGNORED by the NRMP administration and all the other organizations involved in the matching process. I am seriously considering writing a letter to some Journal or filing in a complaint to the NRMP.


This is my 2nd time applying through the match. My first time around I wasn't succesful because I didn't interview in a lot of programs and I only had marginally "qualified" stats. To this you also have to add that I pursued my studies at a Medical School in the 1/3 lower tier of competitiveness. However, I was assuming that I would be ranked by my Medical School's residency program. Unfortunately, to my surprise I didn't match with them either and applicants from a NON-AMC medical school in Mexico were taken into the program. This was their way of punishing me because I carried out electives at other institutions. This is the first example of coerciveness I experienced by the program. Also, during the time I rotated at my program they were constantly harassing me on how would I rank them.

I got a total of 9 interviews. I spent close to $2500 in ERAS for Prelim and Categorical Spots in my specialty of interest. I also recruited a Matching service which charged me $1800 to offer me their services. To this you have to add the expenses of flying out to all these programs, food, transportation, lodging, etc. In addition, I had to reatake the Clinical Skills twice (The only test I failed) However, after ranking all the programs I encountered the inconvenient once again of not having matched.

I finally was able to secure a position in the scramble process. However, this was from a program to which I had already applied during the Match, but had not initially offered me an interview. In addition, I had also e-mailed them to say that I was very interested in their program and would like to interview there, but the e-mail went unreplied. This clearly demonstrates to me how all programs deal in a very hypocritical way.

The "motto" of the NRMP favoring the applicant is ONLY TRUE for applicants with exceptional STATS. For those of us with marginal stats, it is an unfair process since we will always be at the end of ranking lists.


BOTTOM LINE: Program Director's only care about STATS and #'s and will DO ANYTHING to LURE the BEST APPLICANTS to their institutions. They could care less on how they do it or on the lack of "ethics" they use when recruiting their candidates. I have heard for example from a colleague of mine how in Radiology the PD and Faculty interviewing applicants will use coercive and harassing techniques during the interview process to assure that they get certain applicant.

These are the kind of things that sicken me about this profession, and will be regretting it for the rest of my life on why I chose this profession...

Hi there,

I attended one of the lowest ranked medical schools in the country yet I was able to match into a very solid General Surgery program. I studied very hard and got the grades and the Board scores to match into my program. It is not your medical school but your performance there, that will get you into good residency programs. My fellow classmates matched in very competitive specialties: Dermatolgy, Neurosurgery, Ophto at institutions like Hopkins, Stanford and Mass General. Again, these were the folks who did well. So you can't blame your school for your poor performance.

You are absolutely correct in the Program Directors want to attract top candidates to their programs. You were NOT a top candidate and thus you needed to apply to more programs. If you have secured a position in the scramble, you can greatly enhance you chances of getting a categorical slot by putting your past unsuccessful attempts behind you, doing a good job and going back into the MATCH with the attitude that you will apply to a wide variety of programs of varying degrees of competitiveness.

To blame the process is not going to get you anywhere. To look inward and find a workable solution to your problems will. You have graduated from medical school (loads of folks would like to be in your shoes now) and you have an opportunity to work hard and do well in residency. Take it!

njbmd 🙂

 

[OldPsychDoc]

I've still got my money on psych, I hope he tells us.

Please God, no.

 

[person2004]

Lack of Honesty in the NRMP and Matching Process.
I read this title and thought it might be an interesting topic. You could have said that postmatch communication, phone calls from PD's friends, under the table deal making, etc. are all problems. I'd have been with you there. Any communication after the interview is basically undermining the already limited fairness of the match process. Unfortunately the match, like everything else, often comes down to who you know. This I could discuss, but instead I found a thread with an applicant to an unknown specialty with an application so bad that I assume it's made up -you forgot to mention your narcolepsy and alcoholism to round things out. The match does lack honesty, but this is ridiculous. I really don't mean any offense if you're being honest about your application (I have a friend who did as badly on his exams), but I think you're just messing around.

 

[bigfrank]

What a genuine disaster of a thread! I love it!

The only more entertaining post is the poll you posted on a public forum, asking where you should do your residency.

I personally see no problem with BigFrank's responses. If it looks like ****, smells like ****: call it ****.

If you are going into PM&R, and it sure seems your cat is out of the bag, than its no wonder that your lack of interpersonal skills kept you from getting a spot. I can think of few other fields that place more value on interpersonal skills than PM&R. Anyways, I hope things work out for you. I also hope you're not at my program.

🙂

People are most often jealous and too easily offended on SDN and frenetic is the classic example here.

Maybe frenetic should post another poll to see what he should do from here: TO POST or NOT TO POST.

 

[OUsooner]

You are an idiot. First, are you directing your post at me or the OP because I am thoroughly confused and have no idea what you are talking about? I am glad that you found my earlier poll entertaining. That poll was a naive and misguided attempt on my part to gather information and opinions on programs that I was seriously considering. Given what I know now about the level of maturity on these forums, it was probably a bad decision to share that poll with idiots like you. Grow up.

The post is directed at both you and the OP, as you have miraculously figured out. It seems that the poll you posted is not the only "naive and misguided" thing about you; also this may not be the first time that you have been "throughly confused". Maybe you should make up a couple more user names and really get this thread going. Gotta run to the gym now so I can "grow up".
Take care loser.

 

[OUsooner]

🙂

People are most often jealous and too easily offended on SDN and frenetic is the classic example here.

Maybe frenetic should post another poll to see what he should do from here: TO POST or NOT TO POST.

I vote NO. Also would like to start another pole asking if frenetic is a douche?

 

[OUsooner]

Lack of Honesty in the NRMP and Matching Process.
I read this title and thought it might be an interesting topic. You could have said that postmatch communication, phone calls from PD's friends, under the table deal making, etc. are all problems. I'd have been with you there. Any communication after the interview is basically undermining the already limited fairness of the match process. Unfortunately the match, like everything else, often comes down to who you know. This I could discuss, but instead I found a thread with an applicant to an unknown specialty with an application so bad that I assume it's made up -you forgot to mention your narcolepsy and alcoholism to round things out. The match does lack honesty, but this is ridiculous. I really don't mean any offense if you're being honest about your application (I have a friend who did as badly on his exams), but I think you're just messing around.

"an application so bad that I assume it's made up - you forgot to mention your narcolepsy and alcoholism" 👍

If he would have shown you ALL of his deficiences than you would have blamed HIM, instead of the match process. 😀

 

[Obedeli]

BOTTOM LINE: Program Director's only care about STATS and #'s and will DO ANYTHING to LURE the BEST APPLICANTS to their institutions.

I have not read any of the posts following this absurdity but I am sure I am not alone in this. THIS IS CRAP. Of COURSE they want the best applicants! Why is that a hard thing to understand? You foolish n the first place to only apply to few number of programs in the first match. A medical student who fails or performs marginally demonstrates a habit which may continue into residency. If it does, it will hurt the program as well (failing boards, etc).

There is nothing more grating than hearing someone say "it's not fair." It is like some spoiled, whiney kid who had not gotter their way. If your parents didn't tell you than I will. Life isn't fair. Nature isn't fair. To expect it to be fair is either lunancy or communist (about the same). In this case, the bottom applicant doesn't match, THAT IS FAIR. I would never say this to someone who humbly accepted their downfalls and worked hard to improve themself. Instead, you blame everyone else (NRMP no doubt!). nice.

This post is sheer lunacy.

 

[silas2642]

Please God, no.

Ditto here. Going into psych after failing CS interpersonal skills is not a sign of a good psychiatrist.

 

[bigfrank]

Frenetic, I think you have some more people to flame, a la the above 2 posts.

In case you haven't figured it out yet, you taking the side of the OP was one of your most idiotic moves on SDN -- notice I said "one of," you've made several.

🙂

 

[KluverBucy]

I vote NO. Also would like to start another pole asking if frenetic is a douche?

simply put...fuk. actually your suggested poll would be a no-brainer. overwhelming support for his candidacy as a douche. unless you factor in all his aliases that will contribute to the opposite response.

i however have another suggestion. i think frenetic should change his name once more and obtain a more applicable alias. i hear the following avatars are still available.. Troll_Patrol, Over_achiever, Best_student_ever, BOok_worm, and of course my favorite... First_class_Rear_Admiral. (midshipman would also do, however i think it's taken)

 

[bigfrank]

simply put...fuk. actually your suggested poll would be a no-brainer. overwhelming support for his candidacy as a douche. unless you factor in all his aliases that will contribute to the opposite response.

i however have another suggestion. i think frenetic should change his name once more and obtain a more applicable alias. i hear the following avatars are still available.. Troll_Patrol, Over_achiever, Best_student_ever, BOok_worm, and of course my favorite... First_class_Rear_Admiral. (midshipman would also do, however i think it's taken)

true, I must have offended this douche when he was someone else. It usually takes at least 100 posts before someone becomes this jaded on SDN!