laid back programs

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Hey, I just wanted to know if any of you on the interview trail have come across programs that seem extremely laid-back. This is a sometimes complicated definition. Specifically, where are the places where residents work hard, but at the same time don't take themselves or their field too seriously and enjoy life outside the hospital? I've come across fewer than I hoped for.
 
In the Midwest....

University of Wisconsin
Indiana University
University of Kentucky

East Coast...

Yale

Out West....

University of Colorado
Oregon Health
 
Wow, Univ of Colorado?

The scuttlebutt I've heard from multiple sources is that the residents there are miserable and overworked. Maybe my info is outdated...??

MUSC in Charleston, SC, has a lovely night float schedule with residents who seem quite happy to be there, though the program has been through some recent turmoil...
 
Originally posted by gyri

MUSC in Charleston, SC, has a lovely night float schedule with residents who seem quite happy to be there, though the program has been through some recent turmoil...

What recent turmoil in MUSC are you referring to?
 
Originally posted by gyri
Wow, Univ of Colorado?

The scuttlebutt I've heard from multiple sources is that the residents there are miserable and overworked. Maybe my info is outdated...??

The word out there about Univ of Colo is that the program has changed dramatically and is on the upswing. This past year, from what I've heard, the resident life there is excellent. I have heard about the problems there in the past. Of course this is all heresay.
 
I think that this referred to the last chairman of the department leaving unexpectedly. My impression of the program was that the residency had been relatively unaffected by this because of the PD having been there so long. The residents I met seemed to really like the new chairman so it sounded like the change hadn't negatively affected the program.

Before I list the programs I think are 'laid-back' I should say that my definition of it are programs in which the residents work hard but seem to be enjoying (as much as you can enjoy residency) what they are doing and seem to be normal people that I could see myself spending time with outside of work. By these criteria, MUSC, UNC, UTSW, Baylor, and Mayo really stand out.
 
Yes, the new chair at MUSC is supposed to be great--from Columbia U in NYC (worth clarifying when you hear "Columbia" in Charleston b/c half the time they are talking about Columbia, SC.) I heard a significant number of faculty departed when the old chair did, but maybe the dept has since regrouped...

The senior residents I met in person were by and large fairly anxious and uncertain as to how the turmoil had affected their training, although as you say, the PD has been a constant.

I also heard their didactics were sketchy, especially early in the residency, but that they were being improved upon by the new chair with lots of input from residents. The question is always, how long does it take for a program to stabilize? When are the didactics really up and running? Is this program excellent (or good enough) right NOW, or is it going to be in 5 years? Not always clear. At least things definitely seem to be on the upswing, and of course even the most stable-appearing program can have all kinds of earthquakes once you get there.

I was just warned to keep my eyes open there, so I asked a number of pointed questions and left (last year) feeling not totally reassured. I'm sure a lot may have changed in a year...
 
Apparently the residents were fairly vocal about the problems with the didactics and changes were in place for the intern class this year. I'll admit that I tend to look at the program through rose-colored glasses so I haven't really considered the stability issues as thoroughly as I should.
 
Really liked MUSC...close knit group, beautiful city...didn't sound like there were any complaints while I was there.

Colorado....Senior residents did not sound happy but PGY1 and 2 were happy....people who complained wanted to be on east coast close to family etc. I have heard all of the stories from people about how horrible the program is but I did not get that impression at all when I was there. They are also building some beautiful new facilities. Cost of living higher than southeast and midwest but much better than northeast and west coast. I would not hesitate to go if you had a good visit.

Has anyone heard anything about South Florida??
 
Has anyone heard anything about South Florida??
Probably my most laid back interview so far. I almost felt at times that I was just shooting the breeze with the faculty and residents instead of really having a job interview. Everyone (faculty and residents) seems insanely happy and could not imagine being anywhere else. One weird thing was that they never showed me any of the inpatient facilities or medical floors, I'm wondering if this is because of logistics or if they just aren't very proud of their facilities. I never got a chance to meet with the program director either.
 
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