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[SpoiledMilk]

Texas Admissions Lawsuit

Only plaintiff's metrics, no mention of his extracurriculars...

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[PathNeuroIMorFM]

According to the lawsuit, Stewart graduated from UT-Austin with a 3.96 grade point average and a biology degree. He scored a 511 out of a possible 528 on the exam required for admission, known as the MCAT, and spent two years applying to medical schools.

I haven't kept up, but is 511 even that competitive for MD anymore?

Even so, the best scores in the world wont save you from bad ECs, bad LOR, bad PS, bad secondaries, and especially a bad interview. Willing to bet all my loan money that this guy is just another out-of-touch loser. I hope we get a Legal Eagle episode out of this, though.

 

[Rapsidy]

Sue your way into medical school, that’ll work.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Plaintiff should have applied to DO schools too. Follow SDN advice! @wysdoc ?

 

[Spiceupyourlife]

I haven't kept up, but is 511 even that competitive for MD anymore?

Even so, the best scores in the world wont save you from bad ECs, bad LOR, bad PS, bad secondaries, and especially a bad interview. Willing to bet all my loan money that this guy is just another out-of-touch loser. I hope we get a Legal Eagle episode out of this, though.

This. All the time spent on a lawsuit, he could just idk work on himself and improve the areas he's lacking.
Add my loan money into that bet, too lol

 

[wysdoc]

Plaintiff should have applied to DO schools too. Follow SDN advice! @wysdoc ?

Here's the graph of MCAT scores of matriculated students EY 2021 on TMDSAS.
Yes a 511 is around the median in Texas. Acceptance rate on TMDSAS is about 30%.
Improving his resume and trying again is what most people would do in his situation.

 

[GoSpursGo]

The amount of hours spent litigating this likely could have gotten him in if he had used them to gain meaningful clinical experience.

Or maybe he got interviews and came across as a tool, like he does in this lawsuit.

 

[annoyedpsychiatrist]

if hes suing these people im assuming hes hiring a lawyer which isnt cheap. There are a lot more fun ways to waste thousands of dollars.

 

[SpoiledMilk]

Plaintiff is likely not out any money for this suit. The groups that are supporting plaintiff are funding the suit because they have an agenda. Plaintiff was likely just recruited by said groups.

 

[xffan624]

if hes suing these people im assuming hes hiring a lawyer which isnt cheap. There are a lot more fun ways to waste thousands of dollars.

Given the groups involved, this is probably a pro Bono test case. It's more about challenging affirmative action than actually getting him into medical school.

 

[Dr. Basketball]

Given the groups involved this is probably a pro Bono test case. It's more about challenging affirmative action than actually getting him into medical school.

Could be. Or they struck up a deal where a certain percentage of the winnings will go to the legal team. Either way, interesting case.

 

[MDMechEngr]

Here's the graph of MCAT scores of matriculated students EY 2021 on TMDSAS.
Yes a 511 is around the median in Texas. Acceptance rate on TMDSAS is about 30%.
Improving his resume and trying again is what most people would do in his situation.

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Is this data available by race? AAMC use to publish MCAT/gpa grid of MD matriculant by race, but have stop doing it i believe. I wonder why?

 

[wysdoc]

Is this data available by race? AAMC use to publish MCAT/gpa grid of MD matriculant by race, but have stop doing it i believe. I wonder why?

The TMDSAS data tables sort applicants and matriculants into demographics, but do not assort them as searchable with race - vs - GPA or MCAT score.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

The TMDSAS data tables sort applicants and matriculants into demographics, but do not assort them as searchable with race - vs - GPA or MCAT score.

I'm wondering how he got data that supports his claim. I'm guessing he could get it from the school's websites or MSAR entries?

 

[Spiceupyourlife]

I'm wondering how he got data that supports his claim. I'm guessing he could get it from the school's websites or MSAR entries?

According to the article, he filed an "open-records request to obtain admissions data for each school, which included the race, sex, GPA and MCAT score of every applicant who applied for the 2021-22 school year"

 

[Goro]

It's not just about the stats

 

[Rogue42]

If it came to light that this guy interviewed well, had great ECs, wonderful letters of recommendations, a good personal statement, solid secondaries...would you all still be singing the same tune?

 

[SpoiledMilk]

Plaintiff has applied at least twice. His metrics and race were not what prevented him from an acceptance.

 

[Bored Snorlax]

Sue your way into medical school, that’ll work.

What would be the LizzyM Score for this?

 

[xffan624]

Plaintiff has applied at least twice. His metrics and race were not what prevented him from an acceptance.

TBH, his MCAT wasn't great considering his high GPA, but I will defer to ADCOMs on whether a retake would have been advised. Likely he should have just broadened his application to include DO schools assuming that other parts of his application were solid (a big assumption given his actions after two unsuccessful cycles).

 

[SpoiledMilk]

His MCAT is fine for a majority of Texas medschool besides maybe Baylor or UTSW.

 

[Spiceupyourlife]

If it came to light that this guy interviewed well, had great ECs, wonderful letters of recommendations, a good personal statement, solid secondaries...would you all still be singing the same tune?

Come on, now. It's one when 1 school denies you, but SEVERAL schools? His sex and race kept him out twice at multiple schools?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck-it's not a rooster. All them solids should've gotten him at least a waitlist if we're going the hypothetical route. Hypothetically, he should've applied to more schools to increase his chances.

Or he could've done what responsible and accountable adults do which is re-evaluate himself. This is when he should've said "it's not you, it's me. It's really me"😂

 

[PathNeuroIMorFM]

If it came to light that this guy interviewed well, had great ECs, wonderful letters of recommendations, a good personal statement, solid secondaries...would you all still be singing the same tune?

Yes. Take a look at the premed forums or r/premed. Plenty of people with supposedly perfect applications still don't get in.

He's not the first, he won't be the last. Some people just have **** luck, which is a crucial part of the process.

But the odds of all of those things being good or perfect? I'm going to say little to none. After all, other white guys got in. There's more than likely a reason he didn't.

 

[GoSpursGo]

If it came to light that this guy interviewed well, had great ECs, wonderful letters of recommendations, a good personal statement, solid secondaries...would you all still be singing the same tune?

Do you really think that is a likely outcome? And how would you define "interviewed well?"

The biggest problem for him is that there are undoubtedly also White male applicants with lower stats than him that were accepted while he was rejected. What is his reasoning for why they were accepted over him?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

If it came to light that this guy interviewed well, had great ECs, wonderful letters of recommendations, a good personal statement, solid secondaries...would you all still be singing the same tune?

Depends. He could still not be a good mission fit, or he could have done something very unprofessional like a BC flag. You are right to remind us we don't know all the facts, but I think most of us would try to improve a reapp and not resort to a lawsuit. Wondering if he had a PREview or Casper score.

 

[Rogue42]

Come on, now. It's one when 1 school denies you, but SEVERAL schools? His sex and race kept him out twice at multiple schools?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck-it's not a rooster. All them solids should've gotten him at least a waitlist if we're going the hypothetical route. Hypothetically, he should've applied to more schools to increase his chances.

Or he could've done what responsible and accountable adults do which is re-evaluate himself. This is when he should've said "it's not you, it's me. It's really me"😂

You didn't answer the question. I don't disagree with what your'e saying. But hypothetically, if he did in fact do everything right, but was still passed over for lower "qualified" applicants, would you still hold the same view of apply to more schools or re-evaluate himself?

Yes. Take a look at the premed forums or r/premed. Plenty of people with supposedly perfect applications still don't get in.

He's not the first, he won't be the last. Some people just have **** luck, which is a crucial part of the process.

But the odds of all of those things being good or perfect? I'm going to say little to none. After all, other white guys got in. There's more than likely a reason he didn't.

Yeah, I don't disagree at all that luck plays a role or that he probably had something not be perfect. I was simply just posing the hypothetical, devils advocate question.

Do you really think that is a likely outcome? And how would you define "interviewed well?"

The biggest problem for him is that there are undoubtedly also White male applicants with lower stats than him that were accepted while he was rejected. What is his reasoning for why they were accepted over him?

No, I totally think the likely outcome is there is some red flag somewhere. But that is not the hypothetical question I posed. But lets take it further since we are all just guessing. Lets say he was passed over for lower qualified white male applicants based on some other extraneously quality that he has no control over like his parents wealth / prominence status. Is that fair reasoning for a public school to do so?

Depends. He could still not be a good mission fit, or he could have done something very unprofessional like a BC flag. You are right to remind us we don't know all the facts, but I think most of us would try to improve a reapp and not resort to a lawsuit. Wondering if he had a PREview or Casper score.

I appreciate this response. I was totally just throwing in a devils advocate response. I am sure there is probably a red flag, but IF there was not, I wondered if it would change people's tune / thought. I think bringing up the mission statement is a very good point.

I believe he did reapply once before the lawsuit though lol

 

[Spiceupyourlife]

You didn't answer the question. I don't disagree with what your'e saying. But hypothetically, if he did in fact do everything right, but was still passed over for lower "qualified" applicants, would you still hold the same view of apply to more schools or re-evaluate himself?

Yeah, I don't disagree at all that luck plays a role or that he probably had something not be perfect. I was simply just posing the hypothetical, devils advocate question.

No, I totally think the likely outcome is there is some red flag somewhere. But that is not the hypothetical question I posed. But lets take it further since we are all just guessing. Lets say he was passed over for lower qualified white male applicants based on some other extraneously quality that he has no control over like his parents wealth / prominence status. Is that fair reasoning for a public school to do so?

I appreciate this response. I was totally just throwing in a devils advocate response. I am sure there is probably a red flag, but IF there was not, I wondered if it would change people's tune / thought. I think bringing up the mission statement is a very good point.

I believe he did reapply once before the lawsuit though lol

Yes, the answer to your question is yes.

 

[Rogue42]

Yes, the answer to your question is yes.

Interesting take. But thank you for the honesty!

 

[GoSpursGo]

No, I totally think the likely outcome is there is some red flag somewhere. But that is not the hypothetical question I posed. But lets take it further since we are all just guessing. Lets say he was passed over for lower qualified white male applicants based on some other extraneously quality that he has no control over like his parents wealth / prominence status. Is that fair reasoning for a public school to do so?

I mean, what if hypothetically that 3.96 is based on credits that were all from online Phoenix University courses?

We can invent a limitless amount of hypothetical scenarios. But it is not unreasonable to first ask about the most obvious reasons why an applicant with reasonable stats did not get accepted. Especially in Texas where there are so many in-state options, the odds are that if someone didn't get in despite reasonable stats, it's probably because there was a red flag. One of those potential flags, interview performance, is almost by definition subjective, but to be denied by all of the schools would point to a shortcoming of the applicant in the interview setting.

So you're really just playing "devil's advocate" to get a reaction out of people. In which case, I guess mission accomplished.

 

[collegestud2013]

if hes suing these people im assuming hes hiring a lawyer which isnt cheap. There are a lot more fun ways to waste thousands of dollars.

It's possible that the attorneys are agreeing to work on contingency (which happens in some cases when someone doesn't have the money upfront for legal fees but attorneys believe they have a high chance of winning the cases). Or in this case specific advocacy group is probably funding the suit.

As for the legal merits of his case, a lot will dependent on what the Supreme Court decides on the upcoming affirmative action and use of race this upcoming spring. There have been multiple lawsuits about this before and previously federal courts have upheld the use of race-conscious admissions, so at the federal level race-conscious admissions is technically allowed (and this is the argument common used by universities when defending lawsuits about race in admissions) . Unless Texas law prohibits race-based admissions, his legal merit right now for the suit will probably be weaker.

Also, they would need to get the broken data for accepted applicants in Texas med schools through TMDSAS BY RACE/ETHNICITY. If his GPA of 3.96 and MCAT of 511 was much higher than than the median for Hispanics and Blacks, his case will be a lot stronger.

 

[Rogue42]

I mean, what if hypothetically that 3.96 is based on credits that were all from online Phoenix University courses?

We can invent a limitless amount of hypothetical scenarios. But it is not unreasonable to first ask about the most obvious reasons why an applicant with reasonable stats did not get accepted. Especially in Texas where there are so many in-state options, the odds are that if someone didn't get in despite reasonable stats, it's probably because there was a red flag. One of those potential flags, interview performance, is almost by definition subjective, but to be denied by all of the schools would point to a shortcoming of the applicant in the interview setting.

So you're really just playing "devil's advocate" to get a reaction out of people. In which case, I guess mission accomplished.

If it were all from online, then I think we would have a great reason as to why he didn't get in.

But also, no.

What I am doing is challenging the belief that if one does every thing right, then they will be accepted into medical school eventually. Most every person on this thread has some suggested reason that he had some personal red flag on his application which was the cause of his demise.

WHICH I do agree is the MOST likely reason.

But what are we to do if THAT is not the reason? As a community, we throw the "work on yourself, re-evaluate, figure out whats wrong with yourself / application" line a lot - which is the right answer the majority of the time. But for some one who has truly done everything correctly, that is unhelpful.

I think that it is necessary to unpack the fact that it IS possible that less qualified students gain acceptance based on non-merit related attributes. Whether thats race, sex, religion, wealth status, etc. I know people are going to take that statement to the extreme, but anecdotally speaking, I personally know someone in medical school - rather unqualified score wise - based on nothing other than who their father is.

We must confess as a community that this issue exists, but instead, we do not acknowledge that. Instead we push the narrative that no matter what, the underlying issue always lays in the hands of the applicant.

 

[Spiceupyourlife]

No.

What I am doing is challenging the belief that if one does every thing right, then they will be accepted into medical school eventually. Most every person on this thread has some suggested reason that he had some personal red flag on his application which was the cause of his demise.

WHICH I do agree is the MOST likely reason.

But what are we to do if THAT is not the reason? As a community, we throw the "work on yourself, re-evaluate, figure out whats wrong with yourself / application" line a lot - which is the right answer the majority of the time. But for some one who has truly done everything correctly, that is unhelpful.

I think that it is necessary to unpack the fact that it IS possible that less qualified students gain acceptance based on non-merit related attributes. Whether thats race, sex, religion, wealth status, etc. I know people are going to take that statement to the extreme, but anecdotally speaking, I personally know someone in medical school - rather unqualified score wise - based on nothing other than who their father is.

We must confess as a community that this issue exists, but instead, we do not acknowledge that. Instead we push the narrative that no matter what, the underlying issue always lays in the hands of the applicant.

People been getting in for wealth status and legacy. That's well known. It's nepotism. Some would call it networking. Pulling strings, etc. It's in every career field.

I don't do the whole devil's advocate thing -the devil don't need an advocate because he has himself.

 

[Rogue42]

People been getting in for wealth status and legacy. That's well known. It's nepotism. Some would call it networking. Pulling strings, etc. It's in every career field.

I don't do the whole devil's advocate thing -the devil don't need an advocate because he has himself.

Thats fine.

You do seem to like to make a lot of inferences without facts though as well

 

[Mr.Smile12]

I don't do the whole devil's advocate thing -the devil don't need an advocate because he has himself.

Well, Steven Miller... that's enough said...

 

[GoSpursGo]

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If it were all from online, then I think we would have a great reason as to why he didn't get in.

But also, no.

What I am doing is challenging the belief that if one does every thing right, then they will be accepted into medical school eventually. Most every person on this thread has some suggested reason that he had some personal red flag on his application which was the cause of his demise.

WHICH I do agree is the MOST likely reason.

But what are we to do if THAT is not the reason? As a community, we throw the "work on yourself, re-evaluate, figure out whats wrong with yourself / application" line a lot - which is the right answer the majority of the time. But for some one who has truly done everything correctly, that is unhelpful.

I think that it is necessary to unpack the fact that it IS possible that less qualified students gain acceptance based on non-merit related attributes. Whether thats race, sex, religion, wealth status, etc. I know people are going to take that statement to the extreme, but anecdotally speaking, I personally know someone in medical school - rather unqualified score wise - based on nothing other than who their father is.

We must confess as a community that this issue exists, but instead, we do not acknowledge that. Instead we push the narrative that no matter what, the underlying issue always lays in the hands of the applicant.

none of us are implying there aren’t people who get into med school who shouldn’t. But this guy is not alleging that he didn’t get in because some guys daddy pulled strings to get them in over this applicant, he is specifically saying it’s because of race and ethnicity.

And honestly, there are hundreds of medical schools with thousands of seats. If someone deserves to be in med school, they will get in somewhere. Sometimes the problem is not something in the stats.

 

[Spiceupyourlife]

Thats fine.

You do seem to like to make a lot of inferences without facts though as well

These "discussions" goes as far as the men vs women twitter discussions- no where. It's like yelling at a brick wall.
I know endless stories I could type out and share my experience and others experiences as Black women, first gen college, definitely no wealth, butttt Netflix just dropped all episodes of the final season of The Walking Dead and I prefer to give my attention to that. 😊

 

[Mr.Smile12]

... But what are we to do if THAT is not the reason? As a community, we throw the "work on yourself, re-evaluate, figure out whats wrong with yourself / application" line a lot - which is the right answer the majority of the time. But for some one who has truly done everything correctly, that is unhelpful.

I think that it is necessary to unpack the fact that it IS possible that less qualified students gain acceptance based on non-merit related attributes. Whether thats race, sex, religion, wealth status, etc. I know people are going to take that statement to the extreme, but anecdotally speaking, I personally know someone in medical school - rather unqualified score wise - based on nothing other than who their father is.

We must confess as a community that this issue exists, but instead, we do not acknowledge that. Instead we push the narrative that no matter what, the underlying issue always lays in the hands of the applicant.

I'm going to differ a bit with this because a committee consisting (in many cases of dozens) of people duly appointed to their roles found each person they granted an offer as merited and qualified. It didn't matter if those of you on the outside believe the candidate is not qualified for any reason you believe the person does not merit consideration (including legacy candidates). There isn't anything to confess unless you question the rationale behind their decisions (which we do frequently ask about it). With limited information, we can only speculate based on probability and our experience as we are not privy how each school deliberated. What we do know are results from multiple committees who independently arrived at the same decision in not accepting the plaintiff's application(s).

We don't know if the plaintiff asked for feedback from the schools and someone said, "because you're a white dude". I would doubt that he got that advice from all the schools he is suing. Let's see what the facts are and imagine which Caribbean school would give him a shot.

 

[Spiceupyourlife]

Well, Steven Miller... that's enough said...

Lol I honesty don't even know this reference. Comedian from my fave podcast said it and I loved it😂

 

[Rogue42]

I'm going to differ a bit with this because a committee consisting (in many cases of dozens) of people duly appointed to their roles found each person they granted an offer as merited and qualified. It didn't matter if those of you on the outside believe the candidate is not qualified for any reason you believe the person does not merit consideration (including legacy candidates). There isn't anything to confess unless you question the rationale behind their decisions (which we do frequently ask about it). With limited information, we can only speculate based on probability and our experience as we are not privy how each school deliberated. What we do know are results from multiple committees who independently arrived at the same decision in not accepting the plaintiff's application(s).

Thank you for having a civil discourse with thoughts that add to the discussion.

What you bring up are fair and interesting points.

 

[AnonymousDoctorGuyPerson]

Off-topic but reporting is so interesting with the language used. They're clearly trying to paint this picture as cream of the crop

"511 out of 528"

The average person probably thinks they scored like a 97% on this test

 

[Darrow O'Lykos]

Setting aside the hypothetical red flags that many are suggesting he must have in his application (which, no one here has any evidence of a red flag, just pure conjecture), the fact remains that a disproportionate number of applicants with stats lower than him from other ethnic backgrounds and the opposite sex were admitted, at least at the 6 schools being sued. You can point to those of the same sex and race as him and see if/how many were admitted to these same schools, but the entire point of their argument is that applicants shouldn't be categorized based on their sex/race in the first place, and yet at least when AMCAS was still publishing data, there were striking differences in national acceptance rates when looking at racial stratification across GPA/MCAT. They must've seen a similar pattern in the data request from the 6 schools they are suing, and, it's worth noting that it is only 6 of the 12 TMDSAS schools. Making the reasonable assumption that this applicant applied to all of the TMDSAS schools, it stands to reason that they filed a request at all 12 schools. To only sue 6 means that they see a reasonably different trend across sex and racial categories than the other 6 schools, and considering all 6 of the schools being sued are the UT system and not A&M, BCM, Tech, Foster, etc., let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if it was actively instilled in the culture of those looking over the applications at those schools. He isn't suing those 6 schools for failing to be admitted to all 12 schools--he's suing these 6 schools because the data trends at those 6 in particular support his argument. I abhor those representing this plaintiff, but let's not pretend like they're completely out of line here.

I'm going to differ a bit with this because a committee consisting (in many cases of dozens) of people duly appointed to their roles found each person they granted an offer as merited and qualified. It didn't matter if those of you on the outside believe the candidate is not qualified for any reason you believe the person does not merit consideration (including legacy candidates). There isn't anything to confess unless you question the rationale behind their decisions (which we do frequently ask about it). With limited information, we can only speculate based on probability and our experience as we are not privy how each school deliberated. What we do know are results from multiple committees who independently arrived at the same decision in not accepting the plaintiff's application(s).

We don't know if the plaintiff asked for feedback from the schools and someone said, "because you're a white dude". I would doubt that he got that advice from all the schools he is suing. Let's see what the facts are and imagine which Caribbean school would give him a shot.

FWIW, very few if any schools actually offer feedback, and in fact most explicitly state in writing that they do not offer feedback. In my experience, only 2 of the 16 schools in Texas offered a file review and feedback.

 

[SpoiledMilk]

Plaintiff is a pawn in the interested groups agenda. The fact that only UT schools are named in the suit while the other 6 or more schools were not undermines the argument that he was denied an acceptance because of his race.

Plaintiff lawyer: My client was denied admissions to UT schools because of his race!
Defense lawyer: Pray tell why was plaintiff also denied admissions to the other 6 or more schools that did not use race based admission practices not once, but twice? Isn't it reasonable that plaintiff was denied admissions to the UT schools because they saw the same flaws that the other schools saw in plaintiff, flaws that had nothing to do with his race/ethnicity?

 

[Darrow O'Lykos]

Plaintiff is a pawn in the interested groups agenda. The fact that only UT schools are named in the suit while the other 6 or more schools were not undermines the argument that he was denied an acceptance because of his race.

Plaintiff lawyer: My client was denied admissions to UT schools because of his race!
Defense lawyer: Pray tell why was plaintiff also denied admissions to the other 6 or more schools that did not use race based admission practices not once, but twice? Isn't it reasonable that plaintiff was denied admissions to the UT schools because they saw the same flaws that the other schools saw in plaintiff, flaws that had nothing to do with his race/ethnicity?

If the other 6 schools did not show similar data trends in their acceptances, there's no reason to sue them. If the 6 UT schools did show those trends, they're rightfully being sued. Arguing that the other schools saw the same "flaw" isn't a defense if the suit is that the 6 schools in question are utilizing a race-based admissions process, which they're arguing the data shows.

 

[wysdoc]

You know what would also be interesting to look at? The grades, scores and demographics of students turned down from these schools.

 

[pierty]

You know what would also be interesting to look at? The grades, scores and demographics of students turned down from these schools.

Agreed. Information about negatives are difficult to find outside of individual institutions' private data. Schools tend to post average accepted scores because it suggests to students and pre-health offices what an "average accepted students profile" looks like to gauge competitiveness (and likely increases applications to schools that students otherwise have a low chance of acceptance to, even with matching average benchmarks). This is fine as a statistic reflecting the 3-8% that get accepted to many medical schools, but for the other ~92-98%, it tells us little. Cumulative statistics are available through the AAMC facts page, but they are not as helpful.

We know that, for accepted students from disadvantaged backgrounds or those who identify as under-represented demographics in medicine, average academic benchmarks are lower - so much so, and so frequently so, that it has become commonplace to recommend a wider application list (filled with schools at the highest average accepted GPA/MCAT) to users posting "WAMCs" on this site with lower than median accepted US MD scores who report being "URM". I believe it is important to recognize this, regardless of our individual beliefs regarding the merit of these discrepancies.

This being said, a lot of factors go into a student's application that are harder to evaluate based on benchmarks alone. Few would argue that an individual working full-time through college, lacking money or resources to prepare for standardized exams like the MCAT, and coming from a community where they aren't inundated with information from colleagues on how to successfully apply to medical school because they are the only individual they know who are doing it, should be evaluated in the same light as a student guided through their experience by physician parents ensuring they had the resources, time, and finances available to succeed in their journey. I have spoken to a lot of students from both ends of this spectrum, and throughout the range in between over the years. You don't see any of this reflected in mean statistics.

 

[Niwrad]

Could be. Or they struck up a deal where a certain percentage of the winnings will go to the legal team. Either way, interesting case.

Nah, the way this is written and what’s happening so far it is political move by some larger organizations pushing an agenda. Happens all the time. They just need a poster child who’s in this suit

 

[Dr. Basketball]

Nah, the way this is written and what’s happening so far it is political move by some larger organizations pushing an agenda. Happens all the time. They just need a poster child who’s in this suit

Touché.

 

[Billiam95]

Sheriff of sodium had a pretty interesting thread on it today, where he states that the MCAT is really only a relatively ok predictor of success and only in the first 2 years of medical school. Whatever the outcome is, I can't imagine having an open lawsuit against 6 schools will help his chances to get in next time.

 

[FutureInternist]

Nah, the way this is written and what’s happening so far it is political move by some larger organizations pushing an agenda. Happens all the time. They just need a poster child who’s in this suit

Agree… and yet these same folks who say that the SYSTEM in an organisation is discriminating against them, deny SYSTEMIC racism, sexism, etc 🤦‍♂️