Leadership or nah?

[123abcforme]

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So, apparently leadership is quite important for applicants. I don't have the standard run of the mill leadership experience (imho), i.e, "president of pre-med club", but I was wondering if these things counted (for next cycle):


1. Worked job for 5 years, never was manager, but trained new employees, did customer evaluations, met with customers, etc. while boss was out frequently on meetings


2. Founded music appreciation club and was president at my old cc (only for 1 semester). My major is not music, nor do I have ec's in it other than being a member of the already established music appreciation club at my uni that I transferred in

3. I do research in a computational virology lab. My PI is a computer scientist, and so are all of his graduate students, so they know nothing about cell culture/wet work. My PI knows only the stuff in theory, as it pertains to his work. We had a virologist with a PhD in virology assist us in lab maintence (we culture/do wet stuff to give real data to them, and the lab is under the computer PIs name), but he left to get a position overseas. I'm the senior most/only active "wet work" guy, so this last year (including summer) in addition to research, I'm going to do a lot of lab maintenence- training/trained new undergraduates tissue culture, calibrating hardware, making sure reagents are in stock, etc. We have a new PhD student in virology helping out with the lab, but all he had was training, no experience.

 

[ndafife]

1. Training new employees may be considered leadership. The rest (customer eval, meeting with customers) isnt leadership
2. Limited (only 1 semester) but being president would be leadership
3. Again training may be considered leadership. Did you get paid more than the people you were training? A different job title/description? If not, you probably could still spin leadership

 

[123abcforme]

1. Training new employees may be considered leadership. The rest (customer eval, meeting with customers) isnt leadership
2. Limited (only 1 semester) but being president would be leadership
3. Again training may be considered leadership. Did you get paid more than the people you were training? A different job title/description? If not, you probably could still spin leadership

1. Thank you for feedback
2. Thanks, I was trying to maintain ECs in it so it didn't look random
3. No, no pay differential

 

[ndafife]

1. Thank you for feedback
2. Thanks, I was trying to maintain ECs in it so it didn't look random
3. No, no pay differential

I'd talk about your level of seniority with #3 and then talk about how you used that to be a leader with training employees

 

[123abcforme]

I'd talk about your level of seniority with #3 and then talk about how you used that to be a leader with training employees

Thanks. I noticed your tag says accepted, so I buy into your expertise. How much did leadership matter when you were going through the process?

 

[Holmwood]

17% said lack of leadership is deal breaker at Ohio State. This is a public school, so maybe they require more at some prestigious schools.

I say your two training experiences and founding your own club are all relevant to leadership, so you're fine. I personally think your two training experiences are better than "president of premed" because it's in a professional setting.

 

[ndafife]

Thanks. I noticed your tag says accepted, so I buy into your expertise. How much did leadership mattEr when you were going through the process?

It came up as much as I wanted it to. I was able to gear some questions like related to the current role of the doctor in medicine and "why doctor over other medical professions" towards leadership to accent my experiences there. Nobody ever bluntly asked if I was a leader/had experience, I had to bring the conversation to it myself.