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I need to learn spanish ASAP but I do not have the time to take the course at school. I took it for 3 years in HS and do not feel like I came out with much knowledge of the language. For those of you who learned spanish what did you do and if you used a program what was it. I downloaded some pod casts on iTUnes but I'm not sure if this will be sufficient enough...😕
 
I need to learn spanish ASAP but I do not have the time to take the course at school. I took it for 3 years in HS and do not feel like I came out with much knowledge of the language. For those of you who learned spanish what did you do and if you used a program what was it. I downloaded some pod casts on iTUnes but I'm not sure if this will be sufficient enought...😕

Why the sudden rush to learn Spanish? And exactly what kind of Spanish are you looking to learn? Conversational or medical?
 
I dont mean that I need to learn it right this minute, I just need to be comfortable speaking it by the time I start medical school. So i want to learn as much as I can now. I need to learn both, conversational and medical spanish. I want to feel comfortable enough to put it on my application also.
 
advice I've been given but haven't had the time to take:

mire las tele novelas. Mire una cada dia, por toda las dias hasta comensa escuela medico. (watch spanish tv=aprox. english translation).

Other than that, I got a good grip on the language from high school, at least reading and writing it. So when I had to speak it (being the one in the back of the ambulance trying to ask where someone has pain), I began by writing it out, then saying it. Also, with a friend who speaks it helps. If you don't have one, make friends with the ancillary staff at the hospital, but plenty of doctors and nurses speak it too. That's how I get my practice.
 
Next time try searching before you post - you can get a lot of old resources that way that are still good. Plus there is less clutter on the forum.

One person recommended Rosetta Stone software if you know VERY little or no spanish. Its a good beginners course to become conversationally fluent.

I recently bought these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0071439803/ref=pd_cp_b_title/102-7351764-8036961\

This one is great - I like it

http://www.amazon.com/Spanish-Healt...=pd_bbs_1/102-7351764-8036961?ie=UTF8&s=books

This one is ok, WAY too simple for me since I took 5 years in HS and college. But for someone starting out its fun to read, well written and fairly comprehensive.
 
I HIGHLY recommend the Schaum's Outline books for both grammar and vocabulary. They helped me in my intensive Spanish conversation class last summer, and they're awesome. Very well-targeted, not a lot of uselesss stuff. Cheap. Check it out.
 
When I needed to learn English ASAP (at 13 yrs. old) I told my cousins and their friends to only speak to me in English, and I was to respond in English too (even when I had no clue what the heck they were telling me). Reading and watching TV made a difference as well. In less than 2 yrs., I no longer needed to be in ESL classes. Speaking with natives is my best advice; this x-ray tech from work wanted to learn Portuguese and I've been impressed by how much he knows by just interacting with the Portuguese community (including Church). So I think the most important thing is to really want to learn, and you'll pick up the Español in no time 😉
 
advice I've been given but haven't had the time to take:

mire las tele novelas.

LOL, guys tell me they kind of watch them because of the hot chicks in them.
 
Study abroad. It doesn't have to be real expensive. You can study Spanish in places like Guatemala for like $100-$150/week including room and board. These non-touristy places have lots of personalized instruction and you will have to use the Spanish. It's the best way to get up to speed quickly.
 
It only took me ~1 year to learn English...

My parents sent me to English classes when I was around 12 years old (w/really good professors, maybe that had something to do with it). I would go there every Saturday for ~4 hours.

During the week, I used to watch English TV and repeat whatever I heard. Also, I listened to English music and read the lyrics so I knew what they were saying....I would say the TV and the music was probably what helped the most. I don't really have an accent because I worked very hard to imitate the sounds of native speakers and I practiced speaking, even if it was just myself and the TV. :laugh:

In reality, I had little practice with other people until I came to the US, but by then I could carry on a conversation and write school papers (my school pulled me out of the bilingual system in 3 WEEKS, because they realized I wasn't lying when I said I spoke English...darn counselor who wouldn't believe me 😡 ).
 
if you self learn a language in college on your own....are you allowed to put it on your app...or how would you impress med schools about your quest in learning a language on your own without them thinking of u being arrogant?
 
if you self learn a language in college on your own....are you allowed to put it on your app...or how would you impress med schools about your quest in learning a language on your own without them thinking of u being arrogant?
I just plan to list the languages I'm conversant and/or fluent in (currently only English and German; but I hope to add Spanish, Hebrew and Arabic to that list before I apply)......
 
advice I've been given but haven't had the time to take:

mire las tele novelas. Mire una cada dia, por toda las dias hasta comensa escuela medico. (watch spanish tv=aprox. english translation).

Other than that, I got a good grip on the language from high school, at least reading and writing it. So when I had to speak it (being the one in the back of the ambulance trying to ask where someone has pain), I began by writing it out, then saying it. Also, with a friend who speaks it helps. If you don't have one, make friends with the ancillary staff at the hospital, but plenty of doctors and nurses speak it too. That's how I get my practice.



No offense but...i don't know how you can claim to have a good grip on it if that sentence you wrote was an example of it. It's riddled with errors..."telenovelas" is one word.....should be "todas"..."comensa" isn't even a word unless you meant comienzas..
 
No offense but...i don't know how you can claim to have a good grip on it if that sentence you wrote was an example of it. It's riddled with errors..."telenovelas" is one word.....should be "todas"..."comensa" isn't even a word unless you meant comienzas..

It's actually "todos" -- días is masculine. :meanie:

Anyway, I think the poster knows more than enough to be understood by a Spanish speaker, and that's all that matters! It's amazing the comfort you can offer just by attempting to speak another person's native language.
 
It's actually "todos" -- días is masculine.

Anyway, I think the poster knows more than enough to be understood by a Spanish speaker, and that's all that matters! It's amazing the comfort you can offer just by attempting to speak another person's native language.

😀 👍
 
I took Spanish for 4 1/2 years (8th grade-12th grade...took final semester off). I won't take it until summer session between freshman and sophomore year. So after talking to a member at this forum, he recommended to me some books. I am going to pick up "El Alquimista" and read it through, and each time I get stuck, I'd look up a new word or why it is conjugated that way. Also, join a Spanish club, you might get somewhere with that.

Also watching "las tele novelas" won't help if you haven't reviewed your Spanish. I recommend reading on it first, understanding all the verb tenses, and learn vocabulary, then begin applying it to your everday activities. Listening to music also helps a lot if you are at that level. I listen to Selena a lot.
 
I am fairly fluent, and honestly the ONLY way you will learn spanish is to speak it constantly. Even speaking to yourself walking down the street to describe your surroundings is helpful. If you have a friend, thats even better. Going to spain is probably the best
 
I need to learn spanish ASAP but I do not have the time to take the course at school. I took it for 3 years in HS and do not feel like I came out with much knowledge of the language. For those of you who learned spanish what did you do and if you used a program what was it. I downloaded some pod casts on iTUnes but I'm not sure if this will be sufficient enough...😕

That is something that I would not put on my app...b/c if you do not know it now then you will not be fluent by the time you apply. The last thing you would want is for someone to call you out in the interview.
 
I dont mean that I need to learn it right this minute, I just need to be comfortable speaking it by the time I start medical school. So i want to learn as much as I can now. I need to learn both, conversational and medical spanish. I want to feel comfortable enough to put it on my application also.

Doesn't the AMCAS ask you to list languages that you speak fluently? Watching a few hours of telenovelas each day is not going to make you fluent. Taking a few classes isn't going to help either, because the patients that you see speak such informal Spanish that your classroom Spanish isn't going to help much. (I'd even argue that going to Spain isn't going to help when you see patients, because, again, the whole slang/accent thing.) And telenovelas sure as hell aren't going to help you learn medical Spanish. (Other than the phrases, "Mi corazon," and "Me duele.")

This is one of my pet peeves coming into med school - the number of people who claim to speak Spanish "well," or have a "good grip on the language." Then, when you talk to them, it's obvious that they could barely make a decent conversation with an eight-year-old.

I wouldn't stress too much about learning Spanish NOW - Spanish fluency isn't going to guarantee an interview spot. It may not even help all that much, since so many people claim to "speak Spanish." The only place it helps is if you're a non-Texan applying to UT-SA.

riceman04 is right. Unless you'd feel comfortable seeing a Spanish-speaking patient all on your own, don't write it on an app. Especially if you're applying to NY, California, or Texas, where your interviewer may also speak a little Spanish.
 
I just plan to list the languages I'm conversant and/or fluent in (currently only English and German; but I hope to add Spanish, Hebrew and Arabic to that list before I apply)......
Personally, I'd recommend to folks to focus on one language and learn to actually speak it pretty well before tackling a bunch.

It takes quite a while just get get truly conversationally fluent in a language. And conversationally fluent doesn't mean you can order dinner and count to ten.

I've seen lots of folks take these Medical Spanish classes (disclosure: I studied one in Mexico for a month as well). The problem is that although you get very good at running through the basic questions, as soon as you say "So, what brings you here today", you're lost. Mixed tenses, multiple verbs and vocabulary you never touch in a medical Spanish class. Being able to ask someone to rate their pain on a one to ten is great. But if you don't know how to conjugate "to fall" in past tense or how to say "ladder", you'll be scratching your head.

Not to say DKM can't handle it. Some folks are naturally born linguists. But not as many as think they are. If you're not sure you are, take the time to learn a second tongue properly...
 
Unless you'd feel comfortable seeing a Spanish-speaking patient all on your own, don't write it on an app. Especially if you're applying to NY, California, or Texas, where your interviewer may also speak a little Spanish.
Well, do not check the box on AMCAS, where you are indicating fluency. But I would mention it in one of your experiences, if its relevant.
 
I need to learn spanish ASAP but I do not have the time to take the course at school. I took it for 3 years in HS and do not feel like I came out with much knowledge of the language. For those of you who learned spanish what did you do and if you used a program what was it. I downloaded some pod casts on iTUnes but I'm not sure if this will be sufficient enough...😕

May I ask what podcasts you downloaded?
 
I bought all three levels of Pimsleurs speak and read spanish online for pretty cheap...There are also some professors out there that will make their own and it is even cheaper than Pimsleur or Rosetta Stone...I just put those cds in my car (luckily I bought an mp3 cd player) and after about six months I am on the third level and would feel "fairly" comfortable using it...I mean if youre going to be in your car waiting through traffic you might as well learn some spanish since it is the native language to almost a fifth of the people in our country.
 
Well, do not check the box on AMCAS, where you are indicating fluency. But I would mention it in one of your experiences, if its relevant.

Where would you mention it on the app? As a hobby?

Seriously - there is no need to hustle and learn Spanish just to put it on the application. Most schools that do look for Spanish ability want meaningful involvement with the language and the culture, not just a quick, 4 month long CD self-learning course.

Before you jump down my throat, I'm speaking from personal experience. I can speak Spanish fairly well (not really fluent/native, though). I did a 2 month internship in Spain, had to interview total strangers in Spanish, was a language-exchange partner with an Ecuadorian woman, and minored in Spanish culture/history. Despite all this on my application, this didn't help me AT ALL in the interview process. The schools that looked at me were schools that I was confident I could get an interview at anyway. The only exception was UT-SA, but if you're a Texan then they'll look closely at you anyway.

Even if you want to learn Spanish before starting med school, if you don't have a really strong foundation, you'll forget most of it by the 3rd or 4th month. After 2 years in med school, I sometimes wonder if I'm forgetting how to speak English (which is my native language)!!

Even after my experience speaking Spanish, I can still get lost sometimes seeing patients. A lot of them speak a Mexican slang that I've never heard before, which makes me wish that I'd done the internship in Mexico. (Sigh.)

If you want to learn Spanish just for fun, learn it at your own pace and for your own enjoyment.
 
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with smq123. Go ahead, learn a little Spanish, it will help you become a better doctor. You dont have to be fluent and be able to interview folks in Spanish but it would be nice to make your patient feel more comfortable by speaking their native language with them. Simply learning Spanish isn't going to get you into med school but it will make you a better doctor.
 
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with smq123. Go ahead, learn a little Spanish, it will help you become a better doctor. You dont have to be fluent and be able to interview folks in Spanish but it would be nice to make your patient feel more comfortable by speaking their native language with them. Simply learning Spanish isn't going to get you into med school but it will make you a better doctor.

Oh, no - I completely agree with you! I never said not to learn Spanish. I think learning Spanish is wonderful, and is definitely something that should be enjoyed. If I hadn't learned Spanish then I'd never be able to communicate with one of my best friends, who's Mexican (and doesn't speak much English). The language has also introduced me to a lot of literature and music that I'd never heard of before.

I just don't want the OP (or anybody) to stress out too much. I don't think there's a real need to learn Spanish "ASAP" just to put it on an app. The OP just sounded like there was so much urgency attached with learning Spanish, and I don't see why there would be.

The OP said that s/he needs to be comfortable speaking Spanish by the start of med school. I'd disagree - if the point of learning Spanish is to talk to patients, then you need to be comfortable speaking Spanish by the end of 2nd year. Some people do take a medical Spanish class in the summer b/w 1st and 2nd year (the last "real vacation").

I guess I didn't make myself very clear. Oh well.
 
from my experiances, you'll never be fluent in spanish if you just have classroom experiance. The only way to learn it is to immerce yourself in it (spent a few months in a non-tourist spot in mexico or something)


I took 2 years of spanish in high school, and 3 quarters the first time I went to college (only went for a total of 4 quarters) and I could barely stumble my way through "I wish that I could speak spanish better so that I can talk with others on the bus" in spanish while sober.

Of course, I disovered completely on accadent that I spoke fluent spanish after 5 or so long island iced teas - I guess it was in my head somewhere :laugh:
 
Study abroad. It doesn't have to be real expensive. You can study Spanish in places like Guatemala for like $100-$150/week including room and board. These non-touristy places have lots of personalized instruction and you will have to use the Spanish. It's the best way to get up to speed quickly.

I went to Guatemala for immersion and one on one tutoring. It is surprisingly inexpensive. Before I went to Guatemala, I bought the Michel Thomas Spanish for beginners to brush up on my rusty high school Spanish.
 
i am looking for a short/inexpensive summer program to brush up on spanish skills (more for fun than anything else)... would you mind sharing the name of the place/website of where you studied in guatemala?

thanks so much!
 
i am looking for a short/inexpensive summer program to brush up on spanish skills (more for fun than anything else)... would you mind sharing the name of the place/website of where you studied in guatemala?
You can literally show up in Antigua and find dozens of schools that will do 1:1 teaching and provide homestays with three meals a day for about $100-$150/week.
 
I studied in Xela and travelled all over the place (and in other trips have been to much of the area). I would recommend Xela for study because it is real deal Guatemala. That being said, anywhere you go for the most part will have at least one school you can just walk up to as notdeadyet said for like $100-$150/week. Most of these schools do not have websites. But, that being said I studied with http://www.pop-wuj.org/ and you can read my thoughts about them http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=357173

Antigua is in a touristy part of the country and is dissimilar to the rest of Guatemala. You can find alot of other tourists to speak English with and it's much more international in its activities and scope. It reminds me alot of Spain, as it was the Spanish capital way back in the day. It's nice to visit, but it depends on how authentic a study area you want. You can also study in the villages around Lake Atitlan, which is probably one of the most gorgeous and amazing places in the whole world. Again, it's a bit touristy, so...

Another option would be the Chiapas region of Mexico. They're forming their own industry based on this and it is only a bit more expensive. It's similar in the sense that the population is also mostly indiginas and mestizos and like Xela it's up in the highlands, though the food is bound to better in Mexico :laugh:
 
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