Leaving retail?

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AnonRPh

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Hi everyone,
After a few years of lurking on SDN and reading up on other threads, I finally thought that I would post something since I'm hoping to get some honest opinions of other people who probably been in a similar situation.
Currently, I am working for a major chain pharmacy in a major metropolitan city in CA state after graduating last year. The pay is great and higher than what I know my other friends are getting in their respective living locations, but lately, I've been just feeling very unsatisfied with the job.

I rose up through the ranks fairly quickly from floater to staff with a promotion in a few months and currently work at a pharmacy that averages 400 scripts a day that is manageable with the current staff, meaning the queue is clear by the end of the day. However, there are a lot of days in which I wake up and dread going to work be it dealing with all the crap that comes with retail. In addition, it always seems like there is another metric or some other program that requires good numbers that my partner pharmacist will push despite overworking the technicians. There are moments when I will have to tell the partner pharmacist that technician A is doing this, this, and that, so why don't you give technician A a moment to do that before adding to her work. Sometimes I will also have to tell the other pharmacist, this, this, and this didn't get done last night because you scheduled extra help in the morning so I was left with less than usual help in the evening because you didn't want to over schedule technician hours, and so on. If anything, it has become more a situation where the technicians will come to me to ask for help dealing with the other pharmacist.

I have been looking for other jobs, but the area that I live in usually requires residency or some prior hospital experience.
I possibly may be able to land a LTC job with similar or slightly less pay that would require to relocate a few hours away from my current place, but I have been a bit undecided because of the following reasons:

1. My parents are concerned that I am running away from the retail job just because I don't like it and that the same situation will occur with this LTC job if I end up not liking it. They say that any job will have some negatives, and retail pharmacy isn't worse than any other retail job. Some of this may be true, but at the same time, when I think about where I will be in the next five years, I don't see myself or can't imagine myself being in this pharmacy answering another late night phone call about whether or not someone should be drinking expired coconut water. In addition, moving up corporate ladder to become a DM doesn't really appeal to me. Being a DM doesn't seem to be a great job in that you are stuck between pharmacies and corporate constantly juggling both sides.
2. If I were to get this job, I wouldn't be able to make get a job in a few years allowing me to move back to my current location because the LTC experience wouldn't be considered enough to land a hospital job.
3. Technically, I have been with this major chain pharmacy for a few years as a student, but only about half a year as a pharmacist and concerned that I may become blacklisted if I were to resign now.
4. I am possibly considering trying for a residency in the following year, so would it be better to stick it through retail and apply, or work for this LTC and then try since it would have a more clinical background?

If anyone has any thoughts or opinions on the matter, please feel to add your two cents!
I've asked my pharmacy school friends, and they all say go for the LTC job.

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1. My parents are concerned that I am running away from the retail job just because I don't like it and that the same situation will occur with this LTC job if I end up not liking it. They say that any job will have some negatives, and retail pharmacy isn't worse than any other retail job. Some of this may be true, but at the same time, when I think about where I will be in the next five years, I don't see myself or can't imagine myself being in this pharmacy answering another late night phone call about whether or not someone should be drinking expired coconut water. In addition, moving up corporate ladder to become a DM doesn't really appeal to me. Being a DM doesn't seem to be a great job in that you are stuck between pharmacies and corporate constantly juggling both sides.

Have they worked in retail pharmacy? If not, they have no idea.

2. If I were to get this job, I wouldn't be able to make get a job in a few years allowing me to move back to my current location because the LTC experience wouldn't be considered enough to land a hospital job.

Neither will retail.

3. Technically, I have been with this major chain pharmacy for a few years as a student, but only about half a year as a pharmacist and concerned that I may become blacklisted if I were to resign now.

Try to go per diem instead of leaving.

4. I am possibly considering trying for a residency in the following year, so would it be better to stick it through retail and apply, or work for this LTC and then try since it would have a more clinical background?

LTC 100%

If anyone has any thoughts or opinions on the matter, please feel to add your two cents!
I've asked my pharmacy school friends, and they all say go for the LTC job.

Your friends are right.
 
You should definitely go for residency. This will help you open many doors to good hospital jobs down the road in the long term. You are still so early in your career, you should focus on what you want to do long term.
 
You should definitely go for residency. This will help you open many doors to good hospital jobs down the road in the long term. You are still so early in your career, you should focus on what you want to do long term.

Landing a hospital residency after being in retail for a couple years is going to be extremely difficult, even with connections. Retail taints you. Being out of school for any length of time taints you. OP is better off looking for a hospital job in a hard-to-staff location. Sure, apply for residencies if you want, but don't put all your eggs in the residency basket.

If you don't believe me, take a peek at the match stats for non-2016 grads.
 
Thanks all.
I have scheduled an interview, so I will see what the place looks like and if it would be somewhere I could see myself being for the next year or so. My ultimate goal would be to be able to find a non-retail job back in the major city. I feel that I would be more suited to doing research/informatics (favorite part of school!), but not sure if there are any feasible entry level jobs more towards that.
 
I've got to agree with most of these posts above. People that I know that stayed in retail for a few years, ended up staying forever because they more or less became "stuck" or not confident enough in their knowledge any longer to attempt hospital. What I would recommend (if hospital is your ultimate goal) is to find a PRN hospital position. These are usually harder positions to fill, especially in a "hard-to-staff location" as mentioned above. If it's a hard-to-staff location, already, then you should be a shoe in for just a PRN position. Once there, start your networking and "proving yourself" to the manager should a full-time position open up. If you don't end up working full time for the hospital that has employed you as PRN, you at least finally have some hospital experience under your belt to help you gain a full time job at a hospital elsewhere. This was my method for getting into hospital, full time, and I never did a residency so it can be done if you've got the motivation to work a little extra on the side PRN somewhere. It just requires patience. I wouldn't feel bad about leaving a job for another job that you would be happier at though. Pharmacy work environments can be drastically different from one another in different settings, which it sounds like your parents can't quite relate to. I wouldn't take their advice for much. You know, better than anyone, what you would be happy with. Go with your gut.
 
Not everyone is suited for retail. If you already dread going to work now its never going to get better.

The biggest problem with retail is all the good stores are taken by people like me who will never leave. All the open positions are either in undesirable locations or extremely high script counts. This ends up giving retail a bad name. If possible I'd see if there's a slower store you can go to.

You know you like your job when you know almost everyone's name and can just talk to them while you do your job, even from a store with a similar script count.
 
Not everyone is suited for retail. If you already dread going to work now its never going to get better.

The biggest problem with retail is all the good stores are taken by people like me who will never leave. All the open positions are either in undesirable locations or extremely high script counts. This ends up giving retail a bad name. If possible I'd see if there's a slower store you can go to.

You know you like your job when you know almost everyone's name and can just talk to them while you do your job, even from a store with a similar script count.

Honestly...I was staffed at both high volume and low volume stores and both are horrible. The high volumes, you're really stressed out but the days go by so quick...the low volume stores...it's a mental drain and dulls your brain.
 
If you are looking for a better quality of life, do LTC.

If you are looking to increase your sense of self-worth ("I don't see myself or can't imagine myself being in this pharmacy answering another late night phone call about whether or not someone should be drinking expired coconut water."), well easier said than done. Sure, retail pharmacy is not a good career that you can do for 30 years without ruining your joints, but personally, I don't dread going to work (and I have no reason to lie; I have worked mostly in pharmacies in ****ty locations with bad demographics) because customer bull**** is like water off a duck's back and I don't take anything personally (for long). I'm sure many people who went into pharmacy to do something that commands respect are highly dissatisfied when they are "stuck" doing retail. I don't see myself as stuck. I go in, I do whatever needs to get done, I get paid, that's it.
 
1. My parents are concerned that I am running away from the retail job just because I don't like it and that the same situation will occur with this LTC job if I end up not liking it. They say that any job will have some negatives, and retail pharmacy isn't worse than any other retail job. Some of this may be true, but at the same time, when I think about where I will be in the next five years, I don't see myself or can't imagine myself being in this pharmacy answering another late night phone call about whether or not someone should be drinking expired coconut water. In addition, moving up corporate ladder to become a DM doesn't really appeal to me. Being a DM doesn't seem to be a great job in that you are stuck between pharmacies and corporate constantly juggling both sides.
Even if your parents are right (and they probably aren't), but even if they were right, by switching jobs you aren't any worse off, just in another unhappy job situation. It's not like you are quitting without any job in sight (that would be stupid.) You are switching jobs, and every job switch is a risk (some more so than others.) Yes, you might not be happy in your new job....but then again you aren't happy in your current job, at least the new job will offer you a potential chance at happiness.

2. If I were to get this job, I wouldn't be able to make get a job in a few years allowing me to move back to my current location because the LTC experience wouldn't be considered enough to land a hospital job.

Maybe you will want to settle down in your new locale and won't feel like moving back to your current location in a few years. The future is uncertain. While you want to to consider the future you (invest in your 401K!), making a job decision based on what you think the future you will want....that's a pretty iffy proposition.

3. Technically, I have been with this major chain pharmacy for a few years as a student, but only about half a year as a pharmacist and concerned that I may become blacklisted if I were to resign now.

Always a risk, but as long a you give the proper 2 - 4 week notice, then give a glowing exit interview, its unlikely that you would be blacklisted.

4. I am possibly considering trying for a residency in the following year, so would it be better to stick it through retail and apply, or work for this LTC and then try since it would have a more clinical background?

I think your chances of residency will be greater applying from LTC (but as others have said, new grads are going to have a better chance than you, and you would probably be better off looking at rural hospital openings.)
 
Honestly...I was staffed at both high volume and low volume stores and both are horrible. The high volumes, you're really stressed out but the days go by so quick...the low volume stores...it's a mental drain and dulls your brain.
The medium volume stores are probably the roughest


There's usually not enough help

And corporate doesn't care at all about the stores in the ghetto so good luck getting tech hours approved in those places
 
Again, thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts and opinions. My interview is coming up soon, so I am hoping all goes well. Overall, I think if they offer the job, I am going to go for it and continue to gain more experience if anything. I'll be sure to post what happens! Fingers crossed!
 
Update!
It seems that I am a good candidate for the job and now just waiting for the final details in the next few days. I guess I'm being a bit optimistic, but I started to look for apartments. In addition, I am trying to figure out how to write a nice resignation letter and possibly suggest if I could have per diem hours in the new location? Any thoughts?
 
Update!
It seems that I am a good candidate for the job and now just waiting for the final details in the next few days. I guess I'm being a bit optimistic, but I started to look for apartments. In addition, I am trying to figure out how to write a nice resignation letter and possibly suggest if I could have per diem hours in the new location? Any thoughts?

That sounds great and I wish you the best of luck. Let us know how it goes.

As for the resignation letter, it doesn't hurt to try but I wouldn't count on it. While you may have the experience, you simply don't have the schedule flexibility of a floater.
 
A vindictive sup would demand that you turn in your keys immediately (I have seen it happen), so don't be surprised if that happens.
 
Quitting was pretty easy for me. I called my DM to say I got a better job. He said something like "good for you" and "come back anytime." He probably had 10 new grads waiting to take my place.
 
All set with a signed offer letter!
I have turned in my resignation letter and notice! I'm pretty excited to see what LTC pharmacy will be like and getting trained.
 
All set with a signed offer letter!
I have turned in my resignation letter and notice! I'm pretty excited to see what LTC pharmacy will be like and getting trained.
So far I love it.

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Thanks croquemonsieur and owlegrad! I just got back from signing an apartment near work and all set to move in about two weeks. Now all that is left is to review relevant law/regulations regarding LTC in CA state. If anyone has any suggestions, that would be great! So far, I'm planning on looking through title 22 of CA code of regulations and leaf through the few pages regarding LTC in the review book by Weissman.
 
I'm also planning my exit from retail. Honestly it's a joke. You are a corporate monkey doing many things in chain retail. Making a career of this bull**** day in and day out is idiocy.

This whole profession is a joke honestly and I've had the misfortune to encounter some of the worst people in field.
 
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