LECOM attrition?

[costales]

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A lot of the med school dropouts i know got out because they realized it wasn't for them and saw it as a waste of time.

You know a lot of med school dropouts? That's nuthin'. I know so, so many med school dropouts - there were so many that their schools had to shut down.

And I mean to a large extent I see family medicine (PCP) to be pretty useless. I mean all diagnoses can be done by computer or looked up on the internet.

That's true. Heck, FM docs tell me they just use two apps: WhachamaCallIt and WhatDoIDoNow (which are not available to the public for obvious reasons - hint: money). One doc accidentally deleted his WhatDoIDoNow and his patient died. He downloaded Sh;tNowWhat but it was too late.

 

[ortnakas]

I have no skin in the game, but I was wondering if anyone has any idea about the depression or attempted suicide rate. Personally I think that is very important to find out a general idea before anyone matriculates.

While depression and anxiety in medical students is an important issue, this type of data is not really collected or published by any school, LECOM included-- for a plethora of reasons, but not excluding the fact that collecting and publishing private health data of students would violate both HIPAA and FERPA.

The Council of Osteopathic Student Government Presidents is working on policy changes to help students with mental health, which is a great thing (http://thedo.osteopathic.org/2016/01/student-group-aims-to-improve-medical-students-mental-health/). They sent out a mental health survey a few months ago to collect some numbers, but if I remember correctly it didn't ask you to identify your school.

While you aren't going to find the numbers you're looking for, I would suggest looking into what resources are available for students who are struggling with mental health concerns.

 

[costales]

I have no skin in the game, but I was wondering if anyone has any idea about the depression or attempted suicide rate. Personally I think that is very important to find out a general idea before anyone matriculates.

"Among medical students, suicide is the second most common cause of death, after accidents. A study published in the February 2009 issue of Academic Medicine found that 13.6 percent of medical students exhibited probable major depression and 6.6 percent reported suicidal ideation."
https://www.aamc.org/newsroom/reporter/september2015/442222/suicide.html

FWIW There were no student deaths at my school when I was there.

 

[hallowmann]

"Among medical students, suicide is the second most common cause of death, after accidents. A study published in the February 2009 issue of Academic Medicine found that 13.6 percent of medical students exhibited probable major depression and 6.6 percent reported suicidal ideation."
https://www.aamc.org/newsroom/reporter/september2015/442222/suicide.html

FWIW There were no student deaths at my school when I was there.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the bolded was actually a bit higher of a percentage at some point during the 4 yrs. I know many people that were likely in that situation. A lot of it isn't only med school, but the combination of the stress of med school and normal life events that cause it. I'm also a little curious about what that statistic would be for interns.

 

[Cocobutteran]

"Among medical students, suicide is the second most common cause of death, after accidents. A study published in the February 2009 issue of Academic Medicine found that 13.6 percent of medical students exhibited probable major depression and 6.6 percent reported suicidal ideation."
https://www.aamc.org/newsroom/reporter/september2015/442222/suicide.html

FWIW There were no student deaths at my school when I was there.

I lost two of my childhood friends who decided to take the dark road while in medical/dental school. It's a serious issue that should be addressed. LECOM-erie seems to have a support system in place which is great.

 

[Humble Sloth]

You know a lot of med school dropouts? That's nuthin'. I know so, so many med school dropouts - there were so many that their schools had to shut down.



That's true. Heck, FM docs tell me they just use two apps: WhachamaCallIt and WhatDoIDoNow (which are not available to the public for obvious reasons - hint: money). One doc accidentally deleted his WhatDoIDoNow and his patient died. He downloaded Sh;tNowWhat but it was too late.

The sad part about what PCP's do is a lot of it is motivated by money. Take for instance if an individual wanted to take a Testosterone test or Semen analysis or even a QuantiFERON TB Gold test. These tests can be paid for and administered at a private, for profit clinic. The results of these tests are objective and can be understood by anyone. Yet, PCP's fight tooth and nail to keep these tests prescription only. They want to stay relevant. The public is educated now. Information is available everywhere.

Unfortunately what this means is if an individual wants one of these (and most tests) they have to pay (Hint: they want your money) a PCP to order the test and then they have in some cases pay to receive the test results. This is just one example how the Family medicine industry is scamming millions of hard working Americans out of their money. They put up unnatural and complete unnecessary borders to objective and easy testing in order to strong arm the public into using their "services" which are really not services at all.

 

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