LECOM C policy

[scdocusc]

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I just got a mail from LECOM saying that my organic grade wont count because I got a C- in it. Is LECOM the only school with this policy because when I applied last year it was a non-issue. I'm kinda pissed off they didnt tell me this earlier. A C is the same as a C- for most schools it transfers over as a C.

 

[EEL08]

I believe CCOM doesn't count a C- as a C. Possibly AZCOM too since they're both MWU. I would look up each school that you are applying to though.

 

[scdocusc]

Thank you, Does anyone know if the C- disqualify rule applies to PCOM , KCUMB, or Debusk? I think it is such BS.... this is the worst uphill battle I've ever had.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Thank you, Does anyone know if the C- disqualify rule applies to PCOM , KCUMB, or Debusk? I think it is such BS.... this is the worst uphill battle I've ever had.

I think a lot of med schools (MD and DO) generally do not see a C- as a passing grade. At most Universities it will get you to the next course, but at mine for example (UCLA) a C- is only worth 1.7 on a 4.0 scale and if you get one ( I did once in my first calc class ever, I was an idiot and will retake before I apply) you can go on to the next class without a problem, but you are given credit to retake it if you would like because of situations like the one you are in. Is there anyway you can enroll in it somewhere, like at your university of a cc, and then update medical schools that you are retaking the class?

 

[DrMattOglesby]

I just got a mail from LECOM saying that my organic grade wont count because I got a C- in it. Is LECOM the only school with this policy because when I applied last year it was a non-issue. I'm kinda pissed off they didnt tell me this earlier. A C is the same as a C- for most schools it transfers over as a C.

i didnt think any schools took a C-
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if you score below a C, you have to retake it. thats what ive always been told.

 

[EEL08]

I was going to ask too if you could possibly retake it. I couldn't find any information re: prereq grades for PCOM or DCOM. KCUMB says it has to be passed with at least a C but it's hard to tell if that includes a C- or not. I'm pretty sure CCOM specifies that a C- won't count. In my graduate program a C- also is 1.7.

P.S. My MCAT score is definitely the worst part of my app too.

 

[scdocusc]

when I applied last year I had no problem with the C- and thats why its a suprise. I got interviews and everything. Did they have C- and C+ on ACCOMAS last year?

 

[EEL08]

Hmmm, did you apply to the same schools? Where did you interview?

 

[scdocusc]

I interviewed at VCOM last year. And they really look at GPA too and didnt have a problem with the C-'s so I dont know what the deal is. My overall GPA is ok and science GPA is ok. It's too late for me to take classes anyway. Looks like I'm finally done. I've thrown in the towel for medical school. Good luck to everyone!

 

[EEL08]

I interviewed at VCOM last year. And they really look at GPA too and didnt have a problem with the C-'s so I dont know what the deal is. My overall GPA is ok and science GPA is ok. It's too late for me to take classes anyway. Looks like I'm finally done. I've thrown in the towel for medical school. Good luck to everyone!

Could you not just tell the schools that you will retake it in the spring and maybe just find a community college where you can take it for cheap? Also maybe just e-mail the schools you are unsure of to find out what their policy is. Don't give up yet!

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I interviewed at VCOM last year. And they really look at GPA too and didnt have a problem with the C-'s so I dont know what the deal is. My overall GPA is ok and science GPA is ok. It's too late for me to take classes anyway. Looks like I'm finally done. I've thrown in the towel for medical school. Good luck to everyone!

That's ridiculous. Take the course again, and re-take the MCAT. Work on your verbal reasoning section and don't get another freaking 6 on it. Get books full of verbal reasoning passages and do a full length VR test every day for a month until the exam. Time yourself.

That's what I did. Got my score up from a 6 on my first Princeton Review practice test to an 11 on the real thing.

That is, unless you never really wanted to do this in the first place.

 

[skifairee]

I got the same email saying that a C- is not allowed for the pre-recs, and I had a C- in one of my courses. I got another email a couple weeks later, though, inviting me for an interview, and I called and confirmed and I do have an interview. I'm kinda confused, so if this happened to anyone else let me know...

 

[t-funk]

The only school I know of that will take C-'s is DCOM, I think. But look into it.

 

[scdocusc]

I'm sorry but I think it's kinda rediculous that C-'s are not counted at some schools. I understand getting a D, but a C is required for transferring from school to school in undergrad and I'm positive that many MD schools do not have that stipulation and if they do... they allow C-'s. Thank you all for your help. I guess I'll just ride it out and see what happens.

 

[bkpa2med]

C- is not passing. You need to retake.

 

[dancinRN1022]

is this organic chemistry 1 or orgo II... I mean I think you have to still retake it...but just enroll in a class and I think if this is the only class that you have "fulfilled the requirement" then u can still get acceptances and interviews but on the stipulation that you fulfill it before matriculation...that is probably why u didn't have any problem last year...but most school all and ostep won't take a c- for the core classes... I got a c- once...ugh calc 2 and the schools will take it for that but i also have two other math classes in addition...

there is noo way you can give up now after all this money i am sure you have spent...just invest another 800 and take the class... good luck

 

[scpod]

I'm sorry but I think it's kinda rediculous that C-'s are not counted at some schools...

I don't understand. Are you suggesting that schools DECREASE their standards to accept grades that are less than average? I feel your frustration, but the simple fact is that physicians have to be held to higher standards than any other profession-- simply because they hold their patient's lives in their hands. IMO, you shouldn't be upset at the school for not accepting a C-; rather, you should be mad at yourself for not getting a better grade.

You have two alternatives: re-take the class or find a school that will accept a C-. Don't blame the school; it isn't their fault.

 

[Jpc984]

I don't understand. Are you suggesting that schools DECREASE their standards to accept grades that are less than average? I feel your frustration, but the simple fact is that physicians have to be held to higher standards than any other profession-- simply because they hold their patient's lives in their hands. IMO, you shouldn't be upset at the school for not accepting a C-; rather, you should be mad at yourself for not getting a better grade.

You have two alternatives: re-take the class or find a school that will accept a C-. Don't blame the school; it isn't their fault.

I think the poster is mad because some schools do not have a - or + system. Therefore, a C at one school may actually be a C- at another school.

 

[scdocusc]

I dont want schools to decrease their standards for C's but I think that they should standardize the way they look at them. I assumed that since my grades were not an issue last application cycle I would not have an issue this time. After paying more money for a school that I didnt even qualify for I'm a little ticked off. I know they probably have the requirement printed somewhere in some manual online. However, why wasnt I notified about this when my primary application was reviewed? That would have saved me both time and money. I do agree that a C- is crappy and I probably would have taken it over earlier had I known that it was going to be an issue. Also, in my situation, my C- transferred over to a new university as a C. This caused me more confusion. Its too late now and I realize that. I might as well go to grad school. However, this C policy for ALL schools needs to be clearly stated along the way or a uniform policy (either you take a C- or wont). Now that I've sent all my applications out It's very hard to swallow all the wasted time and money.

 

[Jpc984]

Have you considered contacting the schools that are concerned? Say you will take the course prior to matriculation. Maybe they will look at your application still...

 

[laith]

I understand that may be frustrating but doing grad. school because of this is being dramatic. It's really not too late, don't give up. You stated your gpa is fine so all you would need to do before matriculation for any DO school is take the class over again and let them be aware of that. I'm sure taking an orgo class over again will have you doing so much better second time around plus you have the basics down from studying for the MCAT, pulling off an A won't kill you, ya know? You're going to waste a lot more of your time, thoughts, and money if you actually don't enroll in the orgo class somewhere. People get taken off waitlists even the day before matriculation so keep trying for this cycle and prove yourself in interviews with this determination.

 

[scdocusc]

I plan on taking an orgo class in the spring but I dont know if it will help me. My MCAT isnt good by any means and I was hoping to get my foot in the door early this year. I know I'll make an A in the orgo class.

 

[GreenShirt]

UNECOM has an online Orgo course (tests are open book open note), you might want to look into it to save you time (http://distance.une.edu/). Most schools will accept the on-line course as long as its from an accredited school,which UNECOM is.

Also, SOMA will accept a C-.

 

[Pansit]

sorry but a C- is not passing in my book, a normal C is not something I would be proud of either for a pre-req course into medical school. I am glad that the DO schools have minimum standards of acceptance. Maybe people are learning that DO schools dont just take any shmoe, even if your gpa is okay, you still technically "failed" that course with the C- in the schools eyes. Dont complain about it, it's medical school and they are suppose to be that tough, especially in pre-req classes. As bad as it may sound, this is a good thing for DO schools.

 

[scdocusc]

thanks greenshirt! You can start it anytime?

 

[EEL08]

thanks greenshirt! You can start it anytime?

Here's what their site says both Ochem I and II: "The typical student will complete the course in approximately 16 weeks. Students may enroll at any time and the course begins on the date of enrollment. Tuition is $940 for this four-credit course. The lab fee for this course, which includes registration, books, software for the virtual laboratory and technology access is $250."

I'm actually considering taking Biochem from UNE. Unfortunately it's not offered at the community college which obviously would be much cheaper. It is offered at some local universities for slightly cheaper but really to be able to start whenever and not attend class I think it would be worth it. Sounds like it might work out better for you so maybe you should look into it more and find out.

 

[lala83]

don't give up!! i've PMed you 🙂

 

[futuredoc19]

so i got a C- in an orgo1 class...tho my overall gpa is ok, am i at a real disadvantage by retaking a course? is there a way to indicate on acomas that u are retaking???

 

[DrMidlife]

so i got a C- in an orgo1 class...tho my overall gpa is ok, am i at a real disadvantage by retaking a course? is there a way to indicate on acomas that u are retaking???

AACOMAS is Retake Central. The DO app system allows you to use only the latest grade for a course in your GPA calc. You have to report all takes/retakes, but the retake policy is a HUGE advantage of DO over MD for those of us who have repeated coursework.

In other words, NO you are NOT at a disadvantage retaking orgo (unless you do worse on the retake). YES there IS a way to indicate retakes on AACOMAS. For example if it takes you six retakes to finish physics 1 and four retakes to finish orgo 2, AACOMAS lets you indicate which retaken course and which retake you're talking about, as you describe each course.

 

[Mozart45]

Don't know if this helps anyone but I was still able to interview with a c- in organic chemistry II. I was accepted to LECOM with the condition that I retake the class and earn a C by the time of matriculation. I am currently retaking the class. On the otherhand LECOM bradenton accepted my biochem grade of B for my organic requirements, but then I got put on their waitlist.

 

[JRjcu08]

Don't know if this helps anyone but I was still able to interview with a c- in organic chemistry II. I was accepted to LECOM with the condition that I retake the class and earn a C by the time of matriculation. I am currently retaking the class. On the otherhand LECOM bradenton accepted my biochem grade of B for my organic requirements, but then I got put on their waitlist.

I interviewed with a D in O.Chem 2. I haven't heard back yet (my interview was 3/14)...but they just asked what I did to make up for it otherwise.

 

[scdocusc]

Just as a follow up I was accepted to LECOM-erie and had a c- in orgo although they wanted me to retake it before school starts. I decided not to attend though. It is possible although I wouldnt advise it. If you are just realizing that this is messing you up with LECOM dont worry about it until you get in. Good luck to everyone.

 

[EEL08]

Just as a follow up I was accepted to LECOM-erie and had a c- in orgo although they wanted me to retake it before school starts. I decided not to attend though. It is possible although I wouldnt advise it. If you are just realizing that this is messing you up with LECOM dont worry about it until you get in. Good luck to everyone.

Hey I didn't know you were accepted at LECOM! Congrats even though you're not going!! 🙂