LECOM Vs TUCOM

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For all those going to or are planning to go to either LECOM or TUCOM:

First of all: congrats to everyone who got in and are living out the elusive dream! Finally there's some light coming from the end of the tunnel! :luck:

I got my acceptance letter from TUCOM (Mare Island) today, however I have not yet decided if I am going there yet. I have also been accepted at LECOM in Erie. And it really is frustrating deciding where I should go. What are some of your reasons for choosing LECOM for those who are now in LECOM or are planning to go to LECOM. And also what are your reasons for choosing TUCOM for those of you now in TUCOM or are planning to go to TUCOM?

I appreciate any + all input!!! Thanks 😳
 
aliaz said:
For all those going to or are planning to go to either LECOM or TUCOM:

First of all: congrats to everyone who got in and are living out the elusive dream! Finally there's some light coming from the end of the tunnel! :luck:

I got my acceptance letter from TUCOM (Mare Island) today, however I have not yet decided if I am going there yet. I have also been accepted at LECOM in Erie. And it really is frustrating deciding where I should go. What are some of your reasons for choosing LECOM for those who are now in LECOM or are planning to go to LECOM. And also what are your reasons for choosing TUCOM for those of you now in TUCOM or are planning to go to TUCOM?

I appreciate any + all input!!! Thanks 😳

My best advice to you is to think about how you felt when you were on the campus of each school. How did YOU like the atmosphere there? Were YOU comfortable on the campus? Did you like the surrounding area? Can you see yourself there? Do you think you would be happy at which ever campus you chose? You can also look at their profiles and stats, but really, I think you do better at a school that you are happy at and not one where you are just going because of reputation or good match rate. If you are happy and do well, then you will get to where you want to go I believe.

I chose TUCOM-NV because I like the campus, the enthusiasm of the students, faculty, staff and administration. I liked the feel of the school from the moment I walked in. I have visited the TUCOM-MI campus as well, and I liked it, but not as well as I liked the TUCOM-NV campus.

Remember the school is a package. And chances are that the faculty, administration and staff will be there the entire time you are (unless there is a huge turn over for some reason). And that is something I look at first when i go to different schools. I interviewed last year at lecom-erie, and was not happy there. I didn't like the feel. However, some of the other applicants i was with loved it. It just wasn't me though. And I knew it when I walked in and was sure of it by the time i left. I actually ended up pulling my application for brendenton (fl) in august and not going to med school and reapplying this year and got accepted for tucom-nv c/o 09.

I guess go with your gut feeling and try to remember how you felt at each of the schools. write down the pros and cons for each if you have to.
 
Honestly, I think the schools are all roughly comparable (except for some serious outliers). At the end of the day, these schools represent approximately two years of your life, and that really will be it. The quality of the campus, the friendliness of the staff, the type of food/internet/housing available *really* shouldn't be serious factors (and they aren't for me).

What should really matter is what the next two years imply for the rest of your medical career (30+ years). My primary consideration boils down to two factors:

- what do I want to be,
- and where do I want to be.

With that in mind, I want to stay in northern California. I want to do my clinical rotations in Bay Area hospitals (probably ~10 I will choose from), and I want to do my residency in Bay Area hospitals. That's about the bottom line, and why I'll choose TUCOM-MI if the opportunity comes.
 
If I'm not mistaking, LECOM has the lowest out-of-state tuition of all the schools.
 
After much thinking, researching, and reading I've finally decided on going to TUCOM-MI. My reasons for choosing TUCOM-MI over LECOM-Erie are discussed in the following:

Tranquility Love had posted a really helpful advice:
My best advice to you is to think about how you felt when you were on the campus of each school. How did YOU like the atmosphere there? Were YOU comfortable on the campus? Did you like the surrounding area? Can you see yourself there? Do you think you would be happy at which ever campus you chose? You can also look at their profiles and stats, but really, I think you do better at a school that you are happy at and not one where you are just going because of reputation or good match rate. If you are happy and do well, then you will get to where you want to go I believe.
- My overall impression of TUCOM during my visit there was much more positive than my experience visiting LECOM.
1) The Overall Atmosphere:
TUCOM was more laid back than LECOM. I also welcome the thought of warm winters, and calming palm trees at TUCOM. Although I don't mind the strict dress code at LECOM, I am not an anal-retentive individual and I am not sure that I can be comfortable under the "micromanagement" of LECOM's administration, and the cold sterile feel of LECOM. Granted, I had only spent a couple of days at both places and that first impressions can be deceiving, but after reading posts from this forum by LECOM's students my initial negative vibes of LECOM have been confirmed. According to the posts I have read, the atmosphere at LECOM cultivates hardcore competition, and gloominess... I am very much for cooperative learning and sharing of information and I intend to stay happy throughout my 4 yrs of med school.

-Heech's post had pointed out to me the importance of rotations and its relevance to getting into good residencies, which is the deciding factor of what kind of doctor I will become, ultimately.
2) My Ultimate Goal: What I want to be, and where I want to be.
Although TUCOM has no affiliated hospitals, its students are not bound to do rotations at limited local hospitals, as LECOM students are. TUCOM students have more choices because its students have the advantage of getting rotations at a variety of established hospitals, and this may improve the chances of students getting into these same hospitals for competitive residencies more easily. It may be more of a hassle to travel around for rotations, but I think this will definitely be worth the hassle.

-Green912 had advocated for the obvious, the tuition cost.
3) Is the $5000 of tuition difference worth it?
To med school students money can be a decisive factor. LECOM certainly has the lowest tuition cost compared with all other DO schools in their out-of-state tuition rates. Sure, it's good to not accumulate too much debt from taking out enormous amounts of loans...but when there is so much loans to pay off in the end, would $5000 really make that much difference? Money is definitely important, but I am not willing to let money control me.

-I am most concerned if I will be getting a good education from my medical school.
4) I really like LECOM's PBL program which I have been accepted into, and TUCOM lacks PBL. However, TUCOM does operate under a Systems curriculum. And this is somewhat of a comfort to me. Fortunately, TUCOM also has dissection as opposed to prosection as in LECOM.

-And lastly, inspite of what many people have been saying I really like the TUCOM campus. It is nothing like a dump in my opinion. I am not so high maintenance and I am sure I can handle seeing cranes and construction sites. The rich vegetation present on the island proves that Mare Island is not so full of toxic health hazards. The location of TUCOM is also very strategic, right near Napa, San Francisco... and LECOM is really in the middle of no where.

For the sake of my future, my happiness, and my sanity, I believe TUCOM would be my ideal choice.
:idea:
 
Is that a $5000 difference per year? If so that's going to be an extra $20,000...And don't forget to add up the cost of living....

LECOM has a competitive environment? I really don't see it and I've been here 2 years....at least not in the lecture pathway

Anyway, congrats on making your decision, best of luck
 
aliaz said:
Although TUCOM has no affiliated hospitals, its students are not bound to do rotations at limited local hospitals, as LECOM students are. TUCOM students have more choices because its students have the advantage of getting rotations at a variety of established hospitals, and this may improve the chances of students getting into these same hospitals for competitive residencies more easily. It may be more of a hassle to travel around for rotations, but I think this will definitely be worth the hassle.

This is very inaccurate - in fact, the opposite is true. As far as I know, LECOM has the most affiliated hospitals of any school scattered throughout the U.S. east of the Mississippi - there are hospitals in MI, OH, IL, PA, NY, GA, FL.....I think the number right now is 80 hospitals, with more being added in Florida.
 
(nicedream) said:
This is very inaccurate - in fact, the opposite is true. As far as I know, LECOM has the most affiliated hospitals of any school scattered throughout the U.S. east of the Mississippi - there are hospitals in MI, OH, IL, PA, NY, GA, FL.....I think the number right now is 80 hospitals, with more being added in Florida.

This is true.
 
add CA to that list...they just got another affiliate in Anaheim. i know where i will be during those cold winter months
 
I have to say, this is the toughest decision I have made in life thus far. I am glad to have found out about LECOM's big number of affiliated hospitals and that the students are not so competitive as I have thought. I guess it may simply come down to the fact that I am more attracted to TUCOM because of its mild weather...

And I have definitely considered the cost of living plus tuition. I believe that as long as I become a successful physician after graduating med school, the money I put in will be a good investment, therefore I do not view money as a primary factor when it comes to determining between the two schools.

However, from comparing these two schools in terms of the quality of education, I seriously think that going to TUCOM is probably going to be the same for me going to LECOM... Maybe I am wrong but I feel that both are good schools that offer bright futures for their students. After having decided upon sending my check to TUCOM instead of LECOM, I am having second and third thoughts haha. I am not mailing the check until tomorrow... it is very possible that you can fully convince me to change my decision before tomorrow...

I will thrive where ever I go whether it maybe TUCOM, LECOM, or any other DO school for that matter. But when all the important factors have been taken into consideration LECOM and TUCOM are both places that I want to go. TUCOM is slightly more for me than LECOM because of small factors such as weather and location...

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your input! 🙂
 
I know next to nothing about LECOM's affiliated hospitals... so keep that in mind!

But I'd say, again, that there's little doubt LECOM students will be doing fewer clinical rotations in the SF Bay Area than I will. In theory, many of these clinical rotations are equally accessible to students from any med school... but the fact that I can drive 15 minutes down the freeway and meet with the program administrator while planning my rotations has gotta be a plus.
 
If you want to do your rotations in California, and that is a very important thing for you, then without a doubt go to TUCOM. While LECOM may have a couple in CA, and you could still do electives there, I assume most of TUCOMs affiliations are there. With LECOM you get a very broad choice of hospitals, but not a big representation in CA.
Is LECOM-FL not a choice for you? That would solve the weather issue for you, and I know you said you are interested in PBL which this campus (I go to LECOM-FL) is.
 
Welcome to TUCOM-MI aliaz 🙂
See you in the Fall. 😀
 
Looking forward to meeting you Aliaz and Calichik! Yay. If you all are coming to the bay area soon, maybe we can meet up for drinks or yoga or to chew some caramels. Watch out for a post...i may post a TUCOM students shindig. Ciao bellas!
 
lemurlover said:
Looking forward to meeting you Aliaz and Calichik! Yay. If you all are coming to the bay area soon, maybe we can meet up for drinks or yoga or to chew some caramels. Watch out for a post...i may post a TUCOM students shindig. Ciao bellas!

Sounds Good, Will Hunting! :laugh: Hopefully I'll be able to join you guys, but not likely til late summer since I live on the east coast. Also, not until I interview, get accepted, and decide to go there.
 
lemurlover said:
Looking forward to meeting you Aliaz and Calichik! Yay. If you all are coming to the bay area soon, maybe we can meet up for drinks or yoga or to chew some caramels. Watch out for a post...i may post a TUCOM students shindig. Ciao bellas!

haha, sounds like good times! unfortunately I live all the way on the east coast... and probably won't be arriving in west coast until July... see you guys then
😉
 
Just a voice from one hopeing to goto LECOM, I hope you have informed LECOM you have declined their acceptance...thanks for a LECOM hopeful! 🙂
 
aliaz said:
haha, sounds like good times! unfortunately I live all the way on the east coast... and probably won't be arriving in west coast until July... see you guys then
😉

Im in the same boat. Umass huh? I could use some D.P. Dough's right about now.
 
I may be in the same boat, having to decide between TUCOM and LECOM. I don't want to jump the gun, but I want to be prepared..heh.
Has anyone who interviewed 1/21 heard back from LECOM yet?
I have to send my money into Touro by the 18th. 🙁
 
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