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Length of Residencies?

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    Can anyone tell me the length of residencies for some of this? I hope that after a few posts we can create a full list. Thanks!!


    Allergy/ Immunology
    Anesthesiology: Pediatrics, General, Pain Management
    Cardiology: Invasive
    Cardiology: Interventional
    Cardiology: Noninvasive
    Critical Care
    Dermatology
    Emergency Medicine
    FP (w/o OB)
    Gastroenterology
    Infectious Disease
    Internal Medicine
    Medicine/Pediatrics
    Neonatal Medicine
    Obstetrics/Gynecology
    Gynecology
    Orthopedic Surgery
    ORS - Sports Medicine
    Pediatrics
    Pediatrics - Cardiology
    Pediatrics - Critical Care
    Physiatry
    Psychiatry
    Psychiatry - Child and Adolescent
    Pulmonary Medicine + Critical Care
    Rheumatology
    Surgery - General
    Surgery - Cardiovascular
    Surgery - Plastic
     

    Gfunk6

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      3 years
      Emergency Medicine (~75% of programs)
      Family Practice
      Internal Medicine
      Pediatrics

      4 years
      Anesthesiology
      Dermatology
      Emergency Medicine (~25% of programs)
      Neurology
      Ob/Gyn
      Opthomalogy
      Pathology
      PM&R
      Psychiatry

      5 years
      Diagnostic Radiology
      General Surgery
      Orthopedic Surgery
      Otolaryngology
      Radiation Oncology
      Urology

      6 years
      Plastic Surgery (Integrated)

      7 years
      Neurosurgery

      1. The above are generally accepted for most programs but are not iron clad. Some programs require 1-2 years of research.

      2. Programs that are 4 or more years generally require that you do a preliminary year in medicine or surgery or a transitional year -- these are included in the list.
       

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        Neurosurgery is 5 years clinical + 1 or 2 years of integrated research. I don't think there are any 5 year programs left not requiring the research year anymore, so neurosurgery is 6 or 7 depending on how many years of research is integrated into the program.
         
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          what about non-invasive cardiology or a pediatric cardiologist.

          The search function (here or elsewhere) is your friend...

          A general rule: subspecialties of IM or Peds are usually 3 yrs of IM or Peds and then a 3 yr fellowship (Cardiology, Hem/Onc, Allergy, Rheum, etc).
           

          nzdavid

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            wow, no wonder emergency medicine is such a popular choice in the United States.

            in Australia and New Zealand, the minimum training length for emergency medicine (and most other specialties) is 7 years.
             

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              wow, no wonder emergency medicine is such a popular choice in the United States.

              in Australia and New Zealand, the minimum training length for emergency medicine (and most other specialties) is 7 years.

              What constitutes those 7 years in Australia?

              US ---> 4 college + 4 med school + 3 EM residency
               

              nzdavid

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                What constitutes those 7 years in Australia?

                US ---> 4 college + 4 med school + 3 EM residency

                Australia / New Zealand --> 3 university (college) + 4 med school + 7 EM residency
                or 5-6 med school (straight from high school) + 7 EM residency

                The 7 years consists of: 2 years basic training (general hospital rotations) + 1 year provisional EM training + 4 years advanced EM training

                It's a bit silly actually, because training in neurosurgery here also takes 7 years + 1 year research.
                 

                nzdavid

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                  Residents actually work very long hours in Australia/New Zealand. 36 hour shifts and 80 hour weeks are not uncommon in surgery/medicine, just like in N America.

                  EM isn't that popular here.. a lot of EDs are staffed by hospitalists/GPs. It would be nice to train in the US and be done in 3 years! If it were like this here, a lot more people would go into EM.
                   

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                    The 7 years consists of: 2 years basic training (general hospital rotations) + 1 year provisional EM training + 4 years advanced EM training
                    It's a bit silly actually, because training in neurosurgery here also takes 7 years + 1 year research.

                    Actually, it is silly to believe that you can cover the entire spectrum of things you can see in the ED in a 3 year residency. Realistically, it is too short. Often this lack of breadth of experience leads to 'checkbox medicine' with multitudes of studies and lab panels getting ordered based on the patients chief complaint and some standing protocols (rather than deliberate ordering of studies based on a physicians history and clinical exam).

                    Btw. I am under the impression that in the NZ/AU system the higher year residents function fairly independently, more like younger attendings in the US. In the US for example it is rather uncommon for a senior resident to operate without an attending in house (various supervision and billing rules make that difficult), in the UK/NZ/AU system this seems rather commonplace.
                     
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