Let this NP teach you about CHF

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Mad Jack said:
They start off super hot, much of the time. But as a general rule, you add a female nurse's age to her weight (in pounds), and subtract it from her hair length (in centimeters).
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lol
 
VisionaryTics said:
Down goes JP.

Shame. Seemed like a good poster most of the time.
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He seemed alright, sucks to see him banned. Really seemed to be reasonable and decent, aside from the occasional minor misstep. Can't see why he should be permanently banned, particularly in comparison to some other posters I've seen.
 
Mad Jack said:
He seemed alright, sucks to see him banned. Really seemed to be reasonable and decent, aside from the occasional minor misstep. Can't see why he should be permanently banned, particularly in comparison to some other posters I've seen.
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Maybe it's just a post hold?
Idk how these things work.

Also re:bolded - for real though. Not like I am opposed to *some* action on him, but making a mistake and saying your sorry isn't nearly as heinous as some other ish that goes down. But like I said, idk how things get decided, and I know it's not just one person swinging the banhammer. :shrug:
 
touchpause13 said:
Maybe it's just a post hold?
Idk how these things work.

Also re:bolded - for real though. Not like I am opposed to *some* action on him, but making a mistake and saying your sorry isn't nearly as heinous as some other ish that goes down. But like I said, idk how things get decided, and I know it's not just one person swinging the banhammer. :shrug:
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Could be there are simply terms that are zero tolerance. Agreed though, he backed down, apologized, and seemed to take it as a learning opportunity.
 
VisionaryTics said:
Down goes JP.

Shame. Seemed like a good poster most of the time.
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Mad Jack said:
He seemed alright, sucks to see him banned. Really seemed to be reasonable and decent, aside from the occasional minor misstep. Can't see why he should be permanently banned, particularly in comparison to some other posters I've seen.
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There are literally dozens of posters who should go down before him.
 
tiedyeddog said:
Dude wtf? I have worked along side NPs but have never directly reported to one. You
Shouldn't be learning from someone who's knowledge base is inferior to yours.
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I'm not saying they teach any classes. They are involved in some rotations. On family medicine, some of the "providers" (they love this word at my school btw, MDs arent even physicians, they are always a PROVIDER) is an NP you could present to/get graded by. That is what I am talking about.


I would venture a guess this sort of brain washing is becoming more common. I have a classmate whos mother is a gastroenterologist and her hospital recently changed all the name tags. Now no matter who the person is, from the receptionist to the physician, they all have the same name tags that have their first name in big bold letters on them. Lol.
 
jw3600 said:
There are literally dozens of posters who should go down before him.
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cbrons said:
I'm not saying they teach any classes. They are involved in some rotations. On family medicine, some of the "providers" (they love this word at my school btw, MDs arent even physicians, they are always a PROVIDER) is an NP you could present to/get graded by. That is what I am talking about.


I would venture a guess this sort of brain washing is becoming more common. I have a classmate whos mother is a gastroenterologist and her hospital recently changed all the name tags. Now no matter who the person is, from the receptionist to the physician, they all have the same name tags that have their first name in big bold letters on them. Lol.
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Our hospital, and my last one, is the opposite.
The IDs for clinical people are all boldly colored to clearly identity who is who.
Attending physicians are one color, residents, fellows and medical students another, all nurses another. It doesn't matter if they are regular nurses, NPs, CRNAs, nurse managers, etc. Then the other support staff don't have the colour bar.
The goal is to aid with transparency and help families know at a glance who the physicians are, who is in training, etc.
It would be inappropriate for a patient or one of our staff to call me by my first name in the patient's presence. Big bold first names and identical IDs are a dumb idea for a hospital, and I'd definitely share that opinion with hospital leadership if they proposed it.
 
cbrons said:
I would venture a guess this sort of brain washing is becoming more common. I have a classmate whos mother is a gastroenterologist and her hospital recently changed all the name tags. Now no matter who the person is, from the receptionist to the physician, they all have the same name tags that have their first name in big bold letters on them. Lol.
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Another reason not to work at a hospital.

It seems inappropriate for a hospital administration to unilaterally force physicians to go by their first name with their patients.
 
Psai said:
So true, it's so funny that everyone wears long lab coats but once you've been in the hospital for a few months, it's very easy to distinguish. the young, pretty ones are nutritionists; the ones that look sharp and have that spark of intelligence behind their eyes are docs; the short haired, frumpy looking ones, chubby ones are nurses, etc.
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Especially the pediatric nutritionists.

Smokin hot with amazing bodies (of course).

Best part of interdisciplinary team rounds.

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Lol
 
What is that video from? holy crap does she look uncomfortable and angry trying to dodge that question...
 
TwinsFan said:
What is that video from? holy crap does she look uncomfortable and angry trying to dodge that question...
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Background (per Youtube description):

Representative Keith Frederick, D.O, (R-Rolla) asks an advanced practice registered nurse (APRN) with her Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) degree about her education and training during a public hearing on scope of practice legislation. The proposed bill would weaken physician supervision laws. Additionally, House Bill 1481 would restrict the state's medical board (Board of Healing Arts) from working with the Board of Nursing on regulations impacting medical procedures performed in a collaborative practice agreement.
 
I wonder how unidirectional that "collaborative" agreement is
 
johnamo said:
Background (per Youtube description):

Representative Keith Frederick, D.O, (R-Rolla) asks an advanced practice registered nurse (APRN) with her Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) degree about her education and training during a public hearing on scope of practice legislation. The proposed bill would weaken physician supervision laws. Additionally, House Bill 1481 would restrict the state's medical board (Board of Healing Arts) from working with the Board of Nursing on regulations impacting medical procedures performed in a collaborative practice agreement.
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I don't know Dr. Frederick, but after that video he seems like one cool cat.
 
cbrons said:
I'm not saying they teach any classes. They are involved in some rotations. On family medicine, some of the "providers" (they love this word at my school btw, MDs arent even physicians, they are always a PROVIDER) is an NP you could present to/get graded by. That is what I am talking about.


I would venture a guess this sort of brain washing is becoming more common. I have a classmate whos mother is a gastroenterologist and her hospital recently changed all the name tags. Now no matter who the person is, from the receptionist to the physician, they all have the same name tags that have their first name in big bold letters on them. Lol.
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If they were teaching preclinical classes I would ask for a refund.

I was talking about reporting to them during clinicals and getting graded by them. That's still not right. Your school has some weird priorities.
 
cbrons said:
I'm not saying they teach any classes. They are involved in some rotations. On family medicine, some of the "providers" (they love this word at my school btw, MDs arent even physicians, they are always a PROVIDER) is an NP you could present to/get graded by. That is what I am talking about.


I would venture a guess this sort of brain washing is becoming more common. I have a classmate whos mother is a gastroenterologist and her hospital recently changed all the name tags. Now no matter who the person is, from the receptionist to the physician, they all have the same name tags that have their first name in big bold letters on them. Lol.
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Wow. At my hospital we had done quite the opposite- physician named had a red background, and all non-physicians had color-coded scrubs. This was done because multiple studies have shown patient satisfaction greatly increases when they know who they are talking to in the hospital.
 
Mad Jack said:
All that education and all those degrees and she's still not a physician. It's actually embarrassing to hear her defend herself.
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She looks Sooo uncomfortable
 
Mad Jack said:
Wow. At my hospital we had done quite the opposite- physician named had a red background, and all non-physicians had color-coded scrubs. This was done because multiple studies have shown patient satisfaction greatly increases when they know who they are talking to in the hospital.
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Our hospital has a similar system with the name badges, i.e., physicians have dark red backgrounds behind their name, midlevels have light blue, residents have bright red, medical students have a tan color, etc. etc.. I find that to be pretty helpful considering everyone runs around with white coats and their names embroidered on the chest.
 
johnamo said:
Well if you listen carefully, she says her education is:
diploma (RN?), psych NP, bachelor's, family NP, master's, DNP.

I didn't even know you could get a NP before a bachelor's...
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Yeah she just said "certificate" which literally could be anything....haha.

That's the goal here though: keep it as ambiguous as possible.....must be a rule to stay a member of the AANP.
 
NeuroSpeed said:
Straight from the mouth of an NP at the family practice office where I am rotating, mere minutes ago.

"I could do ER easy because it's just running tests and stuff."
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Why do we even need that high level NP education then? They should just let a bunch of monkeys pushing buttons for random tests run the ER.

It's like that NP who was on here a while ago who was like "we should just let the medical assistants start diagnosing routine stuff in the office so we NPs can get more complicated cases".
lol most MAs can't even take my weight or BP right...no my weight should not include my coat and shoes, let me take those off for you.
 
calvnandhobbs68 said:
Why do we even need that high level NP education then? They should just let a bunch of monkeys pushing buttons for random tests run the ER.

It's like that NP who was on here a while ago who was like "we should just let the medical assistants start diagnosing routine stuff in the office so we NPs can get more complicated cases".
lol most MAs can't even take my weight or BP right...no my weight should not include my coat and shoes, let me take those off for you.
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I almost never have my BP taken correctly
No you should not put the cuff over my sweater, no my legs should not be crossed while you are doing it.
 
NPs that call themselves doctor should literally be slapped.

NPs also make me roll my eyes. Apparently, eczema in black people dumbfounded an NP that they referred them for a STAT punch biopsy on a kid to rule out a malignant lesion, which basically confirmed that eczema was indeed eczema.

Or giving antibiotics for the sniffles. Or not knowing how to properly manage bread and butter diabetes. Or auscultate over hoodies. Whenever a patient gets admitted to the hospital, and the PCP is a NP, it is 95% of the time, a trainwreck with poor management.
 
Actually, NPs in the ED would make them fit right in. Order a bunch of tests shotgun approach, have no idea what is going on, and send the patient home shruging their shoulders. Or see a little red number in a lab value, and call for an admission. Screw clinical judgment, or chronic diseases, red means blood!!
 
cbrons said:
I'm not saying they teach any classes. They are involved in some rotations. On family medicine, some of the "providers" (they love this word at my school btw, MDs arent even physicians, they are always a PROVIDER) is an NP you could present to/get graded by. That is what I am talking about.


I would venture a guess this sort of brain washing is becoming more common. I have a classmate whos mother is a gastroenterologist and her hospital recently changed all the name tags. Now no matter who the person is, from the receptionist to the physician, they all have the same name tags that have their first name in big bold letters on them. Lol.
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Errrr...yeah you shouldn't be taught/graded by NPs on your clinical rotations. I've helped out an NP or PA in the clinic on occasion by getting the history while they saw another patient or something, but they certainly don't evaluate us.

Everyone at our hospital has the same badge, but then there's a SECOND badge that hangs behind the first badge and extends below the badge that says in huge letters "PHYSICIAN" or "RESIDENT' or "RN" or whatever they are.
 
KnuxNole said:
Actually, NPs in the ED would make them fit right in. Order a bunch of tests shotgun approach, have no idea what is going on, and send the patient home shruging their shoulders. Or see a little red number in a lab value, and call for an admission. Screw clinical judgment, or chronic diseases, red means blood!!
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Oh, there it is.
 
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