Letter of Intent Success Stories?

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I hope someone has some good stories out there because right now, I feel like nothing is going my way.
 
OP, do you mind if we add letter of updates success stories as well?
 
It's hard to judge what impact anything has and what factors go into various decisions ..

but I'll say this -- I've gotten 3 post-interview acceptances and 2 post-interview rejections. (Not even waitlist, just rejected)

The 3 acceptances I sent letter of interests to (very strong interest), the 2 rejections I did not (because I really wasn't interested).

I think they make a difference.

EDIT: Also -- at the places I've been accepted to, my stats are below the averages at all 3 schools.
 
It's hard to judge what impact anything has and what factors go into various decisions ..

but I'll say this -- I've gotten 3 post-interview acceptances and 2 post-interview rejections. (Not even waitlist, just rejected)

The 3 acceptances I sent letter of interests to (very strong interest), the 2 rejections I did not (because I really wasn't interested).

I think they make a difference.

EDIT: Also -- at the places I've been accepted to, my stats are below the averages at all 3 schools.
where did you send them to? the admissions office in general or anyone in specific?
 
where did you send them to? the admissions office in general or anyone in specific?

I try to send them to specific people. There are also two non-rolling schools I'm still waiting to hear from as well, so we'll see how this works with them.

This is post-interview, so there are a number of people you meet during the interview day that you could send it to ... interviewers, deans that come to visit, other random people on the adcom ...

Do try to make sure it gets into your file though. If you end up sending it to the general admissions office, you might want to specifically ask that it be added to your file. Otherwise, in my experience, when I've sent it to individuals I have met, they have all told me that they would make sure to include it in my file (this is at 5 separate places).

Pre-interview, I don't think this is as relevant.
 
During the holiday break, I sent an update letter to Yale. I was complete in early September.
I got an interview invite today.
I have no idea if it made a difference or is just a coincidence.
 
During the holiday break, I sent an update letter to Yale. I was complete in early September.
I got an interview invite today.
I have no idea if it made a difference or is just a coincidence.

Wow, that's great! That's the biggest span between 2ary and invite I've seen so far. Maybe it was the update!
 
I sent an update/interest email to Drexel a couple weeks before I received my invite. It may just be a coincidence though.
 
I actually submitted it with my secondary...no interview and no rejection from that school ...yet
 
I've sent update/interest letters to 3 schools post-interview, accept at 1, waitlist/hold at the others. Interestingly I sent update letters to about 5 schools pre-interview, and have not heard back from any of them. But I did receive an interview recently from a school I chose not to update. So, who knows if they actually matter, I just figure for 40-cents it's worth a shot .
 
Same here...I have 3 interviews and all from schools which I did not update or sent letter of intent....
 
I interviewed at six schools. I received a rejection, three waitlists,and one acceptance. I sent a letter of intent about three weeks before I received my first acceptance. I think it may have helped because when they evaluated my file they knew I was coming.

Best,
Dave
 
I've had a few people ask me what approach I took for my letters of interest. PM me and I'd happy to let you know what I did and give you suggestions for yours.

Sorry to those of you who may have already tried. I have now cleaned out my inbox, so there is room for messages again.


EDIT: keep scrolling down this thread ... I've posted my advice below.
 
I interviewed at six schools. I received a rejection, three waitlists,and one acceptance. I sent a letter of intent about three weeks before I received my first acceptance. I think it may have helped because when they evaluated my file they knew I was coming.

Best,
Dave

I want to be your classmate.
 
I don't know if this counts but on the secondary for my #1 choice I made sure to say that the school was my number 1 choice (this was under the "additional comments" section) and I stated why.

I interviewed on a Monday, and I got accepted on the Friday of the same week. So it probably helped.
 
Cubbie, I was wondering if you could give a little more detail on how you wrote your LOI? I was hoping to send a few myself and am a little unsure how to format it and say it without sounding overboard. Thanks!
 
Cubbie, I was wondering if you could give a little more detail on how you wrote your LOI? I was hoping to send a few myself and am a little unsure how to format it and say it without sounding overboard. Thanks!

DeHoya --

I have a PM response ready for you but your inbox is full.
 
My bet would be that letters of intent matter less at better (or at least more desirable) schools. Look at the USNews report on how many are accepted vs. how many are in the final class. The schools that accept 5 times as many people as they end up with probably value the letters a lot more highly than those that can pretty much guarantee most students they accept will go there.

To play Devil's advocate against my own reasoning, some schools with high matriculated/accepted student ratios may value that rating for their ranking, and place extra value on students who guarantee they will be there.

Then again, letters of intent are pretty standard fare in the med school game these days, so I doubt too many adcoms really read most of them.
 
hey cubbbie,
if you don't mind, could you please send those pointers to me as well? thanks alot. most people say that you should have some updates ready as well when you send these letters of interest or intent. there hasnt been much change to my app since i applied so idk if the adcom's would really like a LOI at this point. but i guess anything helps.
 
hey cubbbie,
if you don't mind, could you please send those pointers to me as well? thanks alot. most people say that you should have some updates ready as well when you send these letters of interest or intent. there hasnt been much change to my app since i applied so idk if the adcom's would really like a LOI at this point. but i guess anything helps.


I've gotten a ton of requests over PM and I can't really keep up anymore. Here is the basic, unedited gist of what I have been telling people. This has been my approach, so take it for what it's worth.

Also, look at this thread where this was discussed (by me and others) previously:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=347225

I, like everyone else, am just kind of guessing about this stuff. But I think they're a good guesses informed by discussions with current med students, current adcom people, and my own experiences. Plus I do hiring in the medical field, and I also have worked for admissions at my undergrad institution. I have a fairly good sense of how these people think.

Personally, my application looks pretty chincy on paper; I really think my strength and good fortune in this process has been my writing background and putting a lot of energy into all my essays and letters.

As I mentioned, I've been accepted to a few good schools with stats below their averages and ugly things on my transcript (a 2.7 GPA my senior year, many withdrawls, etc.). My MCAT was ok, but not high enough to make up for my GPA. (And I'm white and privileged, in case you're wondering.) I really think my letters made a difference there. One of the reasons I think that is because I got a response from one school in particular a little later than all the other people who interviewed my week, which makes me think that they took my letter and update and made sure that my reviewers had it in hand before bringing my file to committee. (That's pure conjecture.)

In terms of your letter, try to make it as specific as possible -- not only to the school, but to the addressee. Is there someone you met and had a particularly good conversation with during your time there? And is he/she on the admissions committee? I would address it to that person. If you don't have any connection to an adcom person, I would address it to whoever would allow you to make the letter the most personal and cc the dean or adcom people. In your letter, try to make them remember who you are, but don't be too cheesy (don't say, "remember how we talked about your pet squirrel?") Just drop something subtle about your work, or your undergrad, or something you talked about that is related to the letter at hand. Something that'll help them place you. But make sure it's integrated into the content of the letter.

One thing you might want to add is somehow get in there that you've been interviewing at a lot of great schools (if that applies), but you like them the best. Don't be as forceful as that, but do say something to the effect of "while i have had the opportunity to visit a number of excellent medical programs, i find your program stands out in this way ..." Don't be specific about the schools you're comparing, and don't be negative about the other schools. Just make it clear why that school is more ideal for YOU than those other schools.

In terms of a format, I think starting out with an update is a good way to go because it legitimizes your reason for writing. If it's just a letter that says "yoohoo, I'm still here, don't forget about me," it'll seem wimpy and unecessary. Of course that is your real purpose, but at certain schools especially, they might not be as charmed by that kind of thing. Update could be anything from offering new grades, discussing future plans, or simply saying, essentially, "I'm this far along in my application process, it's been X months since we've last been in contact, and I still consider your program to be my top choice ..."

After the update, you could get to part B and basically say "Further, as the admissions committee considers my application, I would like to express my continued, very strong interest in attending ___ medical school." (That language only works if you're writing to an adcom member, but you get the idea.) Then launch into your reasons, and try to include the addressee in the conversation. I don't think it really matters what you say here, but make sure it's personal. Don't just say it's a great program with great opportunities. They already know that. You don't need to list all their strengths for them. You need to let them know why it's the perfect program for YOU.

Also, in my own experience, I've interviewed at a lot of schools recently, and I really leave each and every one with a good sense of the "type" of student they want at their school. And it's different at every single school. Be sure to cater to that "type" and highlight how you not only match that "type," but also that you share the feeling that these are important qualities for the student body. This also must be very subtle. But try to show basically that you and the adcom think alike. You are obviously qualified enough to be accepted at this school -- you just need to make sure they know that you fit well into their image of an ideal ___(your med school)___ student.

Again, this is my own approach, and it's definitely not the only way to go. I'm a writer and editor at heart, so if anyone wants to send me drafts, I'd be happy to take a look. Good luck to everyone!
 
Do you guys think its a good idea to write a LOI after an interview but before a decision on your application has been made, just so its there when the file goes for review?
 
Do you guys think its a good idea to write a LOI after an interview but before a decision on your application has been made, just so its there when the file goes for review?

No. I think you should save it so that you have something additional to send in to make your case if you get placed on a waitlist. Waitlists are when those letters carry the most weight because they are forced to pick between people that may be even more similar.
 
Do you guys think its a good idea to write a LOI after an interview but before a decision on your application has been made, just so its there when the file goes for review?

For what it's worth, I sent a LOI after my interview at one school. My acceptance letter was personalized and made a specific reference to this letter that I sent. I was a pretty decent applicant, but not a shoe-in at this school (hence the reason I wrote it)

I guess it just depends on the school. I would say it probably doesn't matter too much when you send it, just that you send it at some point after the interview, pre-waitlist or post.
 
I agree with Haemulon somewhat...Letters of interest are kind of pointless unless you have something additional to add. However, I am sending a letter of intent to a school today that doesn't reach a decision on me until February. I am only doing this because I received good grades in the fall, and have additional experiences with which to update them. The school is my clear cut top choice, and I am holding acceptances at other schools. Because of this, I see no reason to save a letter of intent for when I'm waitlisted...It could only help now.
 
Do you guys think its a good idea to write a LOI after an interview but before a decision on your application has been made, just so its there when the file goes for review?

What I'm talking about in my post -- letter of interest -- DEFINITELY needs to be written and sent after an interview and before you go to committee. The whole point of it is to get it included in your file for your reviewers to see. As I mentioned in a previous post, it's a way to be official about how you feel about the school, which is something your interviewer may or may not convey on your behalf.
 
I agree with Haemulon somewhat...Letters of interest are kind of pointless unless you have something additional to add. However, I am sending a letter of intent to a school today that doesn't reach a decision on me until February. I am only doing this because I received good grades in the fall, and have additional experiences with which to update them. The school is my clear cut top choice, and I am holding acceptances at other schools. Because of this, I see no reason to save a letter of intent for when I'm waitlisted...It could only help now.

You make a good point. One definitely has to have something sunstantive to add in support of their application, otherwsie a letter of interst doesn't really say anything new. A applicant expresses interest in a school simply by applying, and then reiterates it again by accepting and going on an interview there. (preferably also talking with their interviewers about their interest as well.) Also, the interest is re-expressed again hopefully in thank you notes. What is one to say with yet another expression of this : "Really, I'm serious this time. I truly really am intersted in your school. I wanted to tell you this one more time. I'm not committing anything at this point in the form of a statement of intent of course, but I just wanted you all to know once and for all that I really am interested and would like you to give me an acceptance".

Clearly this does not offer anything. (its over-simplified as a joke obviously, one can say specific things that they liked about the school and so forth, but these things can also be included in simple thank you letters/notes). Now, if you combine this letter of interest with a letter of update (with something new and wonderfull to add to your application), then your on to something. "I have recently done XYZ and would like to have this included in my file. Additionally, I want to re-express my sincere desire to attend your school". That sounds much better. 🙂
 
what would one do if they already sent out a LOI before a decision and then got waitlisted...should you even send a second one?
 
Perhaps you guys can also comment on this:

Right now I'm fighting for some interviews. It's nearing the end of the season for invites. Should I just pull the trigger and send updates/interest now? The only reason I would hesitate in doing so is that I would have played all my cards and left with nothing if waitlisted after granted an interview, apart from a letter of intent of course (right..???)
 
What if I took the August MCAT and have only recently gotten all of my secondaries out, got waitlisted at a school without even an interview? Would it be appropriate to send a letter saying something like "I realize that you have a huge applicant pool, but I know that If given the chance to more personally convey myself, you'll see that I am a student prospect who is dedicated to attending your institution."? I know it sounds sort of like grovelling, but I'm pretty spooked about where I currently stand.
 
is it too much to send LOI to dean, the person who you interviewed with and the admissions staff to make sure it gets in my file?
 
I've gotten a ton of requests over PM and I can't really keep up anymore. Here is the basic, unedited gist of what I have been telling people. This has been my approach, so take it for what it's worth.

Also, look at this thread where this was discussed (by me and others) previously:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=347225

I, like everyone else, am just kind of guessing about this stuff. But I think they're a good guesses informed by discussions with current med students, current adcom people, and my own experiences. Plus I do hiring in the medical field, and I also have worked for admissions at my undergrad institution. I have a fairly good sense of how these people think.

Personally, my application looks pretty chincy on paper; I really think my strength and good fortune in this process has been my writing background and putting a lot of energy into all my essays and letters.

As I mentioned, I've been accepted to a few good schools with stats below their averages and ugly things on my transcript (a 2.7 GPA my senior year, many withdrawls, etc.). My MCAT was ok, but not high enough to make up for my GPA. (And I'm white and privileged, in case you're wondering.) I really think my letters made a difference there. One of the reasons I think that is because I got a response from one school in particular a little later than all the other people who interviewed my week, which makes me think that they took my letter and update and made sure that my reviewers had it in hand before bringing my file to committee. (That's pure conjecture.)

In terms of your letter, try to make it as specific as possible -- not only to the school, but to the addressee. Is there someone you met and had a particularly good conversation with during your time there? And is he/she on the admissions committee? I would address it to that person. If you don't have any connection to an adcom person, I would address it to whoever would allow you to make the letter the most personal and cc the dean or adcom people. In your letter, try to make them remember who you are, but don't be too cheesy (don't say, "remember how we talked about your pet squirrel?") Just drop something subtle about your work, or your undergrad, or something you talked about that is related to the letter at hand. Something that'll help them place you. But make sure it's integrated into the content of the letter.

One thing you might want to add is somehow get in there that you've been interviewing at a lot of great schools (if that applies), but you like them the best. Don't be as forceful as that, but do say something to the effect of "while i have had the opportunity to visit a number of excellent medical programs, i find your program stands out in this way ..." Don't be specific about the schools you're comparing, and don't be negative about the other schools. Just make it clear why that school is more ideal for YOU than those other schools.

In terms of a format, I think starting out with an update is a good way to go because it legitimizes your reason for writing. If it's just a letter that says "yoohoo, I'm still here, don't forget about me," it'll seem wimpy and unecessary. Of course that is your real purpose, but at certain schools especially, they might not be as charmed by that kind of thing. Update could be anything from offering new grades, discussing future plans, or simply saying, essentially, "I'm this far along in my application process, it's been X months since we've last been in contact, and I still consider your program to be my top choice ..."

After the update, you could get to part B and basically say "Further, as the admissions committee considers my application, I would like to express my continued, very strong interest in attending ___ medical school." (That language only works if you're writing to an adcom member, but you get the idea.) Then launch into your reasons, and try to include the addressee in the conversation. I don't think it really matters what you say here, but make sure it's personal. Don't just say it's a great program with great opportunities. They already know that. You don't need to list all their strengths for them. You need to let them know why it's the perfect program for YOU.

Also, in my own experience, I've interviewed at a lot of schools recently, and I really leave each and every one with a good sense of the "type" of student they want at their school. And it's different at every single school. Be sure to cater to that "type" and highlight how you not only match that "type," but also that you share the feeling that these are important qualities for the student body. This also must be very subtle. But try to show basically that you and the adcom think alike. You are obviously qualified enough to be accepted at this school -- you just need to make sure they know that you fit well into their image of an ideal ___(your med school)___ student.

Again, this is my own approach, and it's definitely not the only way to go. I'm a writer and editor at heart, so if anyone wants to send me drafts, I'd be happy to take a look. Good luck to everyone!




duude, how do you keep such a letter a page-ish long esp if you follow a standard letter format...... do they usually end up being much longer!?!?
 
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