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LadyHalcyon

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I know many psychologists who use The Trust for their insurance. However, I have heard APA, whose coverage for members was with The Trust, has recently changed their selection to the American Professional Agency because they got better deals and rates. Does anyone know about this and, if accurate, how much cheaper is it? I need insurance and am unsure how to proceed.

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My opinion:

The APA had a deal with the trust. In contract review, the trust did not want to disclose some financial stuff because they were afraid that the APA would use the information to get a lower bid from another insurer. So they refused, which may be against their contract. APA went and found another insurer, which likely confirms the trust's suspicions.

The professional agency rates for general psychological practice are cheaper right now. Less common practice types rates do not seem to be cheaper. Like most introductory rates, one wonders if the rates will remain lower in the future.
 
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My opinion:

The APA had a deal with the trust. In contract review, the trust did not want to disclose some financial stuff because they were afraid that the APA would use the information to get a lower bid from another insurer. So they refused, which may be against their contract. APA went and found another insurer, which likely confirms the trust's suspicions.

The professional agency rates for general psychological practice are cheaper right now. Less common practice types rates do not seem to be cheaper. Like most introductory rates, one wonders if the rates will remain lower in the future.
Interesting. Thanks for the info. I just graduated and I'm in this weird professional identity limbo stage. Or maybe it's just an existential crisis

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I used the trust in grad school. My new position requires malpractice insurance and I went with American Professional Agency because they were having a discount. The policies (Trust and APA) I looked at seemed pretty similar, so I went with the cheaper one, as I am just starting out.
 
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Both the Trust and APA are comparable in general services and price. Both offer some CE discounts, helpline for ethical issues, etc. They're basically the same, except in these situations:

1. If you have a partnership/group policy in which you insure multiple people who work part-time (less than or equal to 20 hours each, which is most private practitioners), then hands down, the Trust is MUCH cheaper because they offer a 30% part-time discount even if you're in a group. APA refuses to offer any discount for groups with part-time practitioners.

2. If you're subpoenaed, and costs exceed standard deposition coverage. Apparently, APA offers additional deposition coverage as an option (this is separate from licensing board complaint coverage) if you're subpoenaed, and Trust doesn't offer more than standard $5K. Per a psychologists on my state psych listserv, one bad case could far exceed the $5K standard, when it comes to lost income (not being able to see other clients), travel costs, consultation time, time spent in court, costs of hiring a consultants and/or an HIPAA specialist to review "metadata" in your electronic records, etc. Of course, that's worst case scenario. Or, folks can simply stipulate a fee schedule regarding litigation/subpoena-related costs in their informed consent.
 
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