Licensure?

[mailfroggys]

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im sure most of you know by now that starting with the class of 2008, in the east coast, you have to grad from dental school and do an extra one year residency program in order to get your license...the question is, is this true for west coast too? ive heard contradicting stories and no proof

 

[ItsGavinC]

im sure most of you know by now that starting with the class of 2008, in the east coast, you have to grad from dental school and do an extra one year residency program in order to get your license...the question is, is this true for west coast too? ive heard contradicting stories and no proof

I haven't heard anything of that sort. All I know for sure is that graduates wishing to obtain licensure in New York have to complete one year of post-grad education in order to do so.

I don't think this applies to any other states on the east coast, and it certainly doesn't apply to any states on the west coast (or any in between).

 

[Blue Tooth]

That's only true for New York state (where you have to do at least 1 year of a CODA approved residency-no more NERBs-to get your license) and doesn't take effect until 2007. Having said that, for all you D1/2/predents, don't count on the current system being in place when it comes time for you to graduate. Having seen some of the stuff ASDA is doing and the changes being talked about finally with the ADA/ADEA/AADE changes are coming. In my estimation it probably has a good shot of impacting the class of 2007 but who knows, it might happen for my class (2006) or be delayed until who knows when.

 

[UofM01]

Blue Tooth,

Im not saying that your wrong or anything but how would it be possible for Michigan to be involved in the same type of licensure as NY? There are only 3 hospitals that I know of in Michigan that offer the GPR program.

1. VA detroit Recieving
2. VA Ann Arbor
3. U of M Hospital

There are not enough spots to go around , let me know what you think.

 

[Blue Tooth]

Oh I know, but as far as I understand the NY changes, you have to do a CODA residency period. Doesn't matter what state. The reason NY said ok to this partially is because technically they have enough spots in NY state for all the grads of the NY dental schools. This would only work as it is in NY I think. I don't even think that Cali has enough GPR spots. But, my point is that it's a worthwhile option to look into.

The changes coming are basically a national version of the current regional licensure exams. Most closely based on the NERB including the redundant written section.

Basically what I'm advocating is that we as a profession need to get out of the current paradigm that a clinical licensure exam protects the public, is an accurate judge of clinical competency, and is worth it, period. What makes us so much different from our physician colleagues? Why do they have restricted licenses after graduation and aren't unrestricted until they've completed a residency? What exactly makes us so different?

In my estimation, most of the people running the show are stuck in the 1950s when dentistry was quite a bit separate from the rest of medicine. We're not really any more. And we need to change to catch up with modernity.

 

[mike3kgt]

Basically what I'm advocating is that we as a profession need to get out of the current paradigm that a clinical licensure exam protects the public, is an accurate judge of clinical competency, and is worth it, period. What makes us so much different from our physician colleagues? Why do they have restricted licenses after graduation and aren't unrestricted until they've completed a residency? What exactly makes us so different?

In my estimation, most of the people running the show are stuck in the 1950s when dentistry was quite a bit separate from the rest of medicine. We're not really any more. And we need to change to catch up with modernity.

I enjoy sharing an ideology with our medicine colleagues, however, I better prefer to have policies regulating the profession distinct from medicine. Why should the dental profession licensure boards mimic the medical boards in any way other than OMFS where an MD may be involved? Getting too close would ultimately align the dental profession to the point where medicine is right now... and we all know it's not as nice as dentistry 🙂

-Mike

 

[Blue Tooth]

Sorry Mike, but you just made a completely irrelevant leap from education and licensure to your pocketbook (I'm apologize in advance if you weren't referring to HMOs/pay scale). There's really no point is rehasing the discussion of all the things we get right and they don't, as the ADA says "Dentistry: Healthcare that works." That being said, we treat disease that can have a wide variety of implications for many phases of the patient's well-being. The reason physicans have to do a residency after school is because there's too much to know to be clinically competent right away. And we're getting pretty damn close. In both our self-interest financially (it's been shown that dentists who do a GPR also do better financially then those who didn't) and clinically, as well as the public, it's time we get behind the idea that we are special. but we aren't that special. A residency is a good idea.