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Anyone take lipid boards? Between the test, self-assessment modules, and practice materials it’s north of $3200. Painful, but seems like it can be useful in one’s practice to build a niche. Thoughts from those who have taken it?

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Lipids boards????

At some point you become the problem if you’re signing up for such nonsense. No, it’s not a feather in your cap. It’s a waste of money that no one cares about and it further solidifies the nonsense involved with cardiology.

Granted I think the same of echo, nuc, ct boards etc but at least you can make the argument that the earlier generations failed to stop that nonsense so now you have to in many places.
 
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Lipids boards????

At some point you become the problem if you’re signing up for such nonsense. No, it’s not a feather in your cap. It’s a waste of money that no one cares about and it further solidifies the nonsense involved with cardiology.

Granted I think the same of echo, nuc, ct boards etc but at least you can make the argument that the earlier generations failed to stop that nonsense so now you have to in many places.
Agree. This nonsense has to stop.
 
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Lipids boards????

At some point you become the problem if you’re signing up for such nonsense. No, it’s not a feather in your cap. It’s a waste of money that no one cares about and it further solidifies the nonsense involved with cardiology.

Granted I think the same of echo, nuc, ct boards etc but at least you can make the argument that the earlier generations failed to stop that nonsense so now you have to in many places.

While I agree with some of this, I disagree with the “nobody cares about” sentiment. I know a handful of physicians who have carved out niches with their board certificate, using it to tout themselves as super specialists and attracted patients on that merit alone.

Plus, the act of studying for the boards has helped consolidate and accelerate my knowledge on respective subjects. I was good at reading echos and nucs, but the in-depth dive during board studying took me to a next level. You can tell the difference in quality in echo interpretation between attendings who are and aren’t board certified. I’d say it was worth it for that alone.
 
While I agree with some of this, I disagree with the “nobody cares about” sentiment. I know a handful of physicians who have carved out niches with their board certificate, using it to tout themselves as super specialists and attracted patients on that merit alone.

Plus, the act of studying for the boards has helped consolidate and accelerate my knowledge on respective subjects. I was good at reading echos and nucs, but the in-depth dive during board studying took me to a next level. You can tell the difference in quality in echo interpretation between attendings who are and aren’t board certified. I’d say it was worth it for that alone.

Why not just study material on your own time? I agree, it is people like you that put us in this board certification mess in the first place and made them basically expected by our fellowship programs and jobs.
 
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Why not just study material on your own time? I agree, it is people like you that put us in this board certification mess in the first place and made them basically expected by our fellowship programs and jobs.

Seriously.. such physicians/attitudes are the problem.
 
Well, clearly a sore topic for some. I’d appreciate if someone who took them could chime in. Thank you!
 
Dear friend, it is not a sore topic for us as you think it is. The vast majority of us in the field think it is absolute nonsense. Echo is a vast field, much bigger than lipids to be frank. Treatment options for lipid disorders are limited to less than 10 drugs at the maximum. Echo on the other hand has multiple utilities from assessing hemodynamics to valvular function to helping in guiding a MitraClip placement. You simply cannot compare both boards!!!! So what are you going to do by genetic screening people for lipid disorders? Draw a family tree?! You will end up treating them with the same drugs anyway! If you want to add a feather to your academic 'cap' and want to splurge money on this nonsense, go ahead and do it instead of asking the hive for an honest opinion. Most of us would be better off investing our hard-earned fellowship money into our 401k or paying off our student loans, thank you.
 
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It is a waste of time and money. It is not going to meaningfully add anything. Why would you do this to yourself?
 
Dear friend, it is not a sore topic for us as you think it is. The vast majority of us in the field think it is absolute nonsense. Echo is a vast field, much bigger than lipids to be frank. Treatment options for lipid disorders are limited to less than 10 drugs at the maximum. Echo on the other hand has multiple utilities from assessing hemodynamics to valvular function to helping in guiding a MitraClip placement. You simply cannot compare both boards!!!! So what are you going to do by genetic screening people for lipid disorders? Draw a family tree?! You will end up treating them with the same drugs anyway! If you want to add a feather to your academic 'cap' and want to splurge money on this nonsense, go ahead and do it instead of asking the hive for an honest opinion. Most of us would be better off investing our hard-earned fellowship money into our 401k or paying off our student loans, thank you.

Thank you for your input. Here’s the thing; it sounds like none of those who answered have taken lipid boards. Which means none can actually answer from firsthand experience whether or not it’s helped them.

I’m not a naive first year fellow. I’m not into collecting initials behind my name for pride, nor wasting money. I’m a cardiologist boarded in echo and nuclear. From my first hand experience, studying for my boards made me a better doctor. In my experience job hunting, being able to brandish my certificates opened doors. And I’m observing similar intangible benefits in those around me who have taken lipid boards.

I’m very familiar with the “don’t take them stance”, but it’s always from people who haven’t taken the test. I’d like to hear it from people who have.
 
Thank you for your input. Here’s the thing; it sounds like none of those who answered have taken lipid boards. Which means none can actually answer from firsthand experience whether or not it’s helped them.

I’m not a naive first year fellow. I’m not into collecting initials behind my name for pride, nor wasting money. I’m a cardiologist boarded in echo and nuclear. From my first hand experience, studying for my boards made me a better doctor. In my experience job hunting, being able to brandish my certificates opened doors. And I’m observing similar intangible benefits in those around me who have taken lipid boards.

I’m very familiar with the “don’t take them stance”, but it’s always from people who haven’t taken the test. I’d like to hear it from people who have.
With all due respect to your comments, the people who replied to your queries are also your colleagues and practicing in the field. You won't hear from anyone who has taken the lipid boards, because, the vast majority do not take it, which is why. Now if you are talking about getting job opportunities based on lipid boards, then it can be one of two things>>>>>Cardiology recruitment has gone to hell or you are looking at academic jobs only, in which case you are fully justified in giving lipid boards, completing a preventive cardiology fellowship, women health fellowship, etc as there are positions to accommodate your interests in those fields. However, the majority of fellows/practicing cardiologists are not going to be giving these esoteric boards just to be 'better at practice' when they can do the same by keeping up to date with all major guidelines and MOCs. As for your argument that there is a difference between boarded and non-boarded physicians, it may be true with Echo, but with lipids, I stand by my statement that for the most part of your day-to-day practice, you are going to prescribe statins/zetia/vascepa/PCSK9/siRNA drugs as and when they come [if your patient is lucky to have them approved]. Anything more fancy than this, no one really cares as much. You can harp all about Lp(a) and its CV risk, but unless there is a therapeutic option for treating the same [with appropriate data to back it up], there will be nothing you can practically do. A physician is going to be good if he/she puts in the effort to keep him/herself up to date with necessary information. It is not so dependent on boards as much as it is on the physician, especially in niche fields such as lipidology.
 
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With all due respect to your comments, the people who replied to your queries are also your colleagues and practicing in the field. You won't hear from anyone who has taken the lipid boards, because, the vast majority do not take it, which is why. Now if you are talking about getting job opportunities based on lipid boards, then it can be one of two things>>>>>Cardiology recruitment has gone to hell or you are looking at academic jobs only, in which case you are fully justified in giving lipid boards, completing a preventive cardiology fellowship, women health fellowship, etc as there are positions to accommodate your interests in those fields. However, the majority of fellows/practicing cardiologists are not going to be giving these esoteric boards just to be 'better at practice' when they can do the same by keeping up to date with all major guidelines and MOCs. As for your argument that there is a difference between boarded and non-boarded physicians, it may be true with Echo, but with lipids, I stand by my statement that for the most part of your day-to-day practice, you are going to prescribe statins/zetia/vascepa/PCSK9/siRNA drugs as and when they come [if your patient is lucky to have them approved]. Anything more fancy than this, no one really cares as much. You can harp all about Lp(a) and its CV risk, but unless there is a therapeutic option for treating the same [with appropriate data to back it up], there will be nothing you can practically do. A physician is going to be good if he/she puts in the effort to keep him/herself up to date with necessary information. It is not so dependent on boards as much as it is on the physician, especially in niche fields such as lipidology.

Thank you. I do appreciate your insight.
 
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What? Rather do obesity medicine course. I am considering to use CME for this next year
 
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