List of Lower Tier MD schools on East Coast

[Say Dough]

What are the low-Tier MD schools on the east coast, preferably near NY

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[ChubbyChaser]

Harvard, Yale, NYU, Columbia, COrnell, and brown.

 

[dw2158]

Harvard, Yale, NYU, Columbia, COrnell, and brown.

ha.

i'd be curious to hear what other people have to say about this. the ones that come to mind for me are: new york medical college, albany medical college, temple, drexel... i don't know.

 

[AdemTD]

ha.

i'd be curious to hear what other people have to say about this. the ones that come to mind for me are: new york medical college, albany medical college, temple, drexel... i don't know.

what constitutes "low tier"?? Quality of education? How hard it is to get into a certain school?

 

[DoctorDeMan]

what constitutes "low tier"?? Quality of education? How hard it is to get into a certain school?

Probably the schools with lower MCAT/GPA averages.

State schools are probably going to be your best bet for the lowest averages, but NYMC, Jeff, Drexel, Temple, Tufts, BU, GW, Georgetown and the SUNY and UMDNJ schools come to mind. Keep in mind that a "low" average nowadays is ~30/3.5-6. They are low really only in comparison to the bigger East coast schools (NYU, Cornell, Colubia, Harvard, etc.).

If you are looking for averages lower than that, you'll have to either apply DO, be in a lowly populated state with very few applicants (I'm looking at you North Dakota), or be applying to Meharry, Morehouse, etc. (Before I get attacked, those are all fine schools but just have lower averages than others...)

Also keep in mind that GW, BU and many others are the default "safety" for East coasters, and thus get a large number of applications (10,000+) and are still pretty darn selective.

 

[atomi]

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[Appless]

Theres no "low tier" at least not in the way i think you are thinking. Often these safety schools or low tier schools regularly reject 3.8+ 35+ mcat people also. Nothing is an easy pass to get into just because you are above the stats. Basically if you are just looking for stats of schools that are more on the average side 3.6 GPA, 31 mcat or so then just flip through the MSAR instead of asking someone to list 40 + schools for you😉

 

[MegaProjectile]

A school can be 'low tier' but can still be extremely selective. Especially state schools who don't give much in-state preference. VCU for example. So if you are looking for easy schools to get into, you are asking the wrong question.

You are right. There is no easy school. However, there are schools where the stats of the average matriculant is within your reach and those can be considered your safety schools. Safety schools tend to know who is using them as a back-up(3.9, 36+) and those who might actually attend if accepted .

 

[Pianoman32]

Plus a lot of the so called safety schools, NYMC, jefferson, etc, end up taking students that either lived in a tough state to apply to, ie california, or were just unlucky in the app process and received no other acceptances. Because of this, there numbers (gpa and mcat average) are actually the average for matriculants, meaning that they aren't a lower tier school but a middle tier school.

If you truly wanted to label lower tier schools, meaning schools that would be easiest to get into, it would probably be midwest state schools. Many of these schools have mcat and gpas a few points below average. However, if you're not from one of these states, you probably have better odds applying to Harvard.

 

[Pianoman32]

You are right. There is no easy school. However, there are schools where the stats of the average matriculant is within your reach and those can be considered your safety schools. Safety schools tend to know who is using them as a back-up(3.9, 36+) and those who might actually attend if accepted .

Good point, look at mdapps and you'll see that most students that interview at hopkins and the like will never get an interview invite from the so called safety schools: they do realized that if these students were interviewed, there is little chance they would attend.

 

[blackbird11384]

Probably the schools with lower MCAT/GPA averages.

State schools are probably going to be your best bet for the lowest averages, but NYMC, Jeff, Drexel, Temple, Tufts, BU, GW, Georgetown and the SUNY and UMDNJ schools come to mind. Keep in mind that a "low" average nowadays is ~30/3.5-6. They are low really only in comparison to the bigger East coast schools (NYU, Cornell, Colubia, Harvard, etc.).

If you are looking for averages lower than that, you'll have to either apply DO, be in a lowly populated state with very few applicants (I'm looking at you North Dakota), or be applying to Meharry, Morehouse, etc. (Before I get attacked, those are all fine schools but just have lower averages than others...)

Also keep in mind that GW, BU and many others are the default "safety" for East coasters, and thus get a large number of applications (10,000+) and are still pretty darn selective.

Georgetown's Averages are a 32 and a 3.7 (3.66 science i believe). Not to try and say it shouldn't be affiliated with the other schools mentioned along side it (Tufts and BU i know def. have higher averages than you seem to believe), I'm just stating the facts.

 

[ChubbyChaser]

ha.

i'd be curious to hear what other people have to say about this. the ones that come to mind for me are: new york medical college, albany medical college, temple, drexel... i don't know.

idk...I got into some good schools but got rejected Post int from NYMC...rejected after being put in a maybe category from albany, rejected from temple post sec...and I withdrew from drexel after an Interview invite.

 

[Say Dough]

Thanks for the replies. I know that no MD school is easy to get into, i just wanted to know which schools are most likely to accept students with like 3.7 GPA and like 28-30 mcat. there are definitely other factors that go into their decisions but im tryin to figure out where i want to apply. I'm not goin to apply for schools like Einstein or Mt. Sinai because i know i probably wont get accepted. How many MD schools did you guys apply to? is 10 a good number?

 

[ChubbyChaser]

Thanks for the replies. I know that no MD school is easy to get into, i just wanted to know which schools are most likely to accept students with like 3.7 GPA and like 28-30 mcat. there are definitely other factors that go into their decisions but im tryin to figure out where i want to apply. I'm not goin to apply for schools like Einstein or Mt. Sinai because i know i probably wont get accepted. How many MD schools did you guys apply to? is 10 a good number?

3.7 and 28..more then 10..I would say 20.

 

[student1799]

Thanks for the replies. I know that no MD school is easy to get into, i just wanted to know which schools are most likely to accept students with like 3.7 GPA and like 28-30 mcat. there are definitely other factors that go into their decisions but im tryin to figure out where i want to apply. I'm not goin to apply for schools like Einstein or Mt. Sinai because i know i probably wont get accepted. How many MD schools did you guys apply to? is 10 a good number?

A 3.7 GPA is fine, but an MCAT below 30 is really going to make your life difficult. It's a lot easier to get admitted if a low MCAT is balanced by a high GPA, and vice versa. Even the supposedly low-end places like NYMC and Albany are quite picky about stats, and I don't think they take a ton of applicants with sub-30 MCATs.

There really aren't even 10 schools in the NY area where you can realistically apply. I speak not from malice but from experience: I applied this year with a GPA slightly below yours and an unbalanced MCAT score (31S, but 7 in the PS section), and I didn't get into a single NY school. I was interviewed by one NYC school but rejected, and my next closest interview was 100 miles away (Philly). The others were at least 200 miles away. I got into Rosalind Franklin, I'm waiting to hear from the Philly school, and I'm on 5 WLs, but none of them are close to NY.

My advice is that if you have a sub-30 MCAT, you really need to apply broadly--at least 20 schools, and possibly more. If your heart is really set on going to med school in NY, I think it would be worth your while to postpone applying for a year to try to get your MCAT to 30 or above. With a 30 MCAT, you'd have a shot at NYMC and Albany, but you'd be a bit below their average (31), and most of the other NY schools are even higher.

 

[pseudoknot]

A school can be 'low tier' but can still be extremely selective. Especially state schools who don't give much in-state preference. VCU for example. So if you are looking for easy schools to get into, you are asking the wrong question.

VCU is not "extremely selective." VCU has MCAT and GPA averages at the low end of most medical schools and as such it is a good example of what the OP is looking for.

Obviously not all medical schools are equally selective and there are some that are relatively easier to get into. Unfortunately this idea of "easier" vs. "easy" is beyond the comprehension of many of the idiots that post in pre-allo.

 

[vickpick]

depends on ur state of residency... definitely apply to ur state schools and then temple, NYMC, drexel, tufts....

 

[genswim24]

depends on ur state of residency... definitely apply to ur state schools and then temple, NYMC, drexel, tufts....

Your GPA is fine for Tufts, but their average MCAT is 32.3 so you are hovering dangerously below that. It's certainly not impossible, but I think it would be a reach school

 

[Say Dough]

Well im actually taking my MCAT June 18, but im not sure if ill be prepared by then to get 30+....shud i delay until july 17? or just take it june 18, and then maybe retake it if i have to...and if i delay to july 17, will my app be "late" for ny schools?

 

[majahops]

Once you've been consistently scoring above 30 on the AAMCs, then take the real thing. Don't take it until then. AND don't waste the AAMC practice exams too quickly! They are worth their weight in gold!

Well im actually taking my MCAT June 18, but im not sure if ill be prepared by then to get 30+....shud i delay until july 17? or just take it june 18, and then maybe retake it if i have to...and if i delay to july 17, will my app be "late" for ny schools?

 

[ZeusonRoids]

Purchase or borrow or check out a freaking MSAR. Look at the GPA and MCAT averages. Low tier schools will generally be ones with averages on the lower end...Mid tier will generally have "middle #'s" and top programs will generally have top #'s.

Not difficult.

Also Check out medical school rankings (google it)...because some schools that are in the top 10 do not have great #'s because they take mostly in-state (UW comes to mind...although they dont have bad #'s by any means)

 

[DoctorDeMan]

Georgetown's Averages are a 32 and a 3.7 (3.66 science i believe). Not to try and say it shouldn't be affiliated with the other schools mentioned along side it (Tufts and BU i know def. have higher averages than you seem to believe), I'm just stating the facts.

GT and BU are definitely higher than 30/3.5. For comparison, though, they have lower averages than Harvard/Yale/Penn (35-37 median MCAT). Because of the sheer number of applications they receive, they are probably not much less selective in an absolute sense (#accepted/#applied).

 

[XRanger]

BU average is 3.72 GPA and 33 MCAT

 

[aznb0y129]

OP, 3.6, 31 here, take a look at my mdapps for the list of 20 schools I applied to (mostly East Coast, some Chicago schools, only 2 reach schools).

6 interview invites (declined 2), 2 acceptances, 1 waitlist, 1 post-interview rejection.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Dont forget jefferson, they even gave me an interview.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

I never knew Tufts was considered lower tier. Also, would Vermont be considered lower tier?

 

[JeetKuneDo]

^^ someone wants to be banned.

 

[JennaQ]

Does Robert Wood Johnson qualify as a "lower-tier" school to OOS applicants?

 

[DoctorDeMan]

None of the schools discussed so far are really "lower-tier" in the sense that admission is easy or the curriculum is sketchy. If you want "low-tier" look into the Carribean, mon. There are probably like 5-8 schools in the US that can be considered "low-tier", and many have special requirements that make them fairly difficult to get into (minority status or in-state applicants only). Some DO schools are much easier to get into than MD schools also, but many are approaching 30/3.5-6 competitiveness.

 

[slight365]

If we're going down the DO route, it's not on the East Cost, but consider DMU. I know several who went there and the common reason cited was the name. "Osteopathic" was not in the name of the university, so the students didn't have to play down the DO part as much.

 

[slight365]

If we're going down the DO route, it's not on the East Cost, but consider DMU. I know several who went there and the common reason cited was the name. "Osteopathic" was not in the name of the university, so the students didn't have to play down the DO part as much.

 

[baseballbabe]

^^
This, by far, is the most rediculous reason I have heard for a person choosing a school. I actually interviewed at DMU and none of the interviewees nor the current students said that they picked DMU because of the name. A common misconception is that the ONLY reason people are applying to DO school is because they cannot get into an MD school.

 

[student1799]

Does Robert Wood Johnson qualify as a "lower-tier" school to OOS applicants?

Definitely not. The NJ schools are very friendly to state residents: about 27% of IS applicants to RWJ and NJMS are admitted, with stats that are similar to SUNY Downstate, NYMC, etc. However, very few OOS applicants are admitted to either school; at RWJ, less than 3% of OOS applicants are offered admission, while at NJMS it's more like 1%. Most of those applicants probably have strong ties to NJ, and even then they probably have stats that are above the average for IS acceptees.

I applied to both NJ schools as an NY resident, and was rejected from both. If I'd known at the outset how few OOS students they admit, I wouldn't have bothered. Your chances are much better in a lot of other states.

 

[thesauce]

Harvard, Yale, NYU, Columbia, COrnell, and brown.

Ha. Just Brown.

 

[JennaQ]

Definitely not. The NJ schools are very friendly to state residents: about 27% of IS applicants to RWJ and NJMS are admitted, with stats that are similar to SUNY Downstate, NYMC, etc. However, very few OOS applicants are admitted to either school; at RWJ, less than 3% of OOS applicants are offered admission, while at NJMS it's more like 1%. Most of those applicants probably have strong ties to NJ, and even then they probably have stats that are above the average for IS acceptees.

I applied to both NJ schools as an NY resident, and was rejected from both. If I'd known at the outset how few OOS students they admit, I wouldn't have bothered. Your chances are much better in a lot of other states.

Thank you very much for your response.