List of things that 90% of applicants dont have

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Lukkie said:
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physical attractiveness!

oh wait, that's for the ACCEPTED applicants. most of the good looking ppl get rejected! 🙁

looks like you'll have a good chance of an acceptance, lukkie! :laugh:
 
Is 37 really the 90th percentile? I thought that cut off was somewhere around 33 or 34.
 
rocketbooster said:
physical attractiveness!

oh wait, that's for the ACCEPTED applicants. most of the good looking ppl get rejected! 🙁

looks like you'll have a good chance of an acceptance, lukkie! :laugh:
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LET got accepted, she's a goddess 😱
 
NoMoreAMCAS said:
That's what i figured. So the first post should say, 90% of applicants don't have a 33+ MCAT.
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That's not correct, actually. The mean MCAT for applicants was 28.1 with a SD of 6.6, which means one standard deviation above the mean is 34.7 (~85th percentile) I think 37 is probably a pretty accurate estimate of 90th percentile. The number you were discussing was the 90th percentile for MCAT examinees.
 
drizzt3117 said:
That's not correct, actually. The mean MCAT for applicants was 28.1 with a SD of 6.6, which means one standard deviation above the mean is 34.7 (~85th percentile) I think 37 is probably a pretty accurate estimate of 90th percentile. The number you were discussing was the 90th percentile for MCAT examinees.
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this is correct... you have to consider that people who score low on the MCAT probably aren't applying with that score, so even though my score report for that test shows a certain percentile, its gonna be skewed upwards for people applying
 
drizzt3117 said:
That's not correct, actually. The mean MCAT for applicants was 28.1 with a SD of 6.6, which means one standard deviation above the mean is 34.7 (~85th percentile) I think 37 is probably a pretty accurate estimate of 90th percentile. The number you were discussing was the 90th percentile for MCAT examinees.
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Oh, i was assuming everyone that took it applied. My bad.
 
drizzt3117 said:
That's not correct, actually. The mean MCAT for applicants was 28.1 with a SD of 6.6, which means one standard deviation above the mean is 34.7 (~85th percentile) I think 37 is probably a pretty accurate estimate of 90th percentile. The number you were discussing was the 90th percentile for MCAT examinees.
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I don't think so. I took the Jan '09 MCAT, and my 33 was listed as the 89.0-91.9 percentile.
 
student1799 said:
I don't think so. I took the Jan '09 MCAT, and my 33 was listed as the 89.0-91.9 percentile.
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I think they're saying a bunch of people with crappy scores don't apply, pushing you down into a lower percentile.
 
drizzt3117 said:
yeah, you have to take self-selection into account. Obviously people that get < 20 on the MCAT probably aren't applying.
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Yeah. I'll go with: 90% of people attempting to apply each year don't have a 33+ MCAT. Makes us all look better.
 
But **** man, 10 percent of applicants having a 37+ still seems really high. That's a LOT of people with really good MCAT scores. Just doesn't sound believable.
 
NoMoreAMCAS said:
But **** man, 10 percent of applicants having a 37+ still seems really high. That's a LOT of people with really good MCAT scores. Just doesn't sound believable.
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makes sense its about the SDN average
 
NoMoreAMCAS said:
But **** man, 10 percent of applicants having a 37+ still seems really high. That's a LOT of people with really good MCAT scores. Just doesn't sound believable.
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It sounds about right to me. Let's do an example. 39 MCAT is 98.9th percentile among test takers. If n = 70000 for all people taking the MCAT in one year, that is about 770 people. That score is about 2 standard deviations above the mean for applicants, meaning that it's at about 98th percentile among applicants. 770 / .02 = 38500. I think there was more like 43000 applicants but there is also an issue with the statistics in terms of summing the mean scores in that way.

Another way to look at it is that 37 is ~96% so if there are 70000 test takers, 2800 of them scored 37 or above, where as probably 3200-3500 of them scored 36 or above. That's reasonably close to 10% of applicants. People might also be applying with MCAT scores from previous cycles as well. Keep in mind the 37 as 10% is an estimate as the calculated amount (34.7 or whatever) was at the 84.2% percentile. The curve steepens pretty quickly around that score so it might very well be that 35.7-36 is actually the 90th percentile, which would make much more sense looking at the data.

If someone really wants to do all of the calculations with excel or what, the data is here, I was running numbers in my head so they might be a little off.

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/
 
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ummmm... publications,
3.9+ GPA,
keen interest in euro league soccer,
adidas cologne (who knew they made some?),
bootleg Burnout Paradise,
both a desktop and a laptop in their bedroom,
a mirror on all 4 walls of the room,
an intense hatred for dumb people,
a wanting for natural selection to work naturally on humans (so that all the "unfit," dumb people die... analogous to the last one)
 
....you guys are missing a key point....

med schools don't look at the adjusted percentile you guys are referring to made of only applicants. they use your percentile that's based on all MCAT examinees.
 
drizzt3117 said:
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quoting just because
 
rocketbooster said:
....you guys are missing a key point....

med schools don't look at the adjusted percentile you guys are referring to made of only applicants. they use your percentile that's based on all MCAT examinees.
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Yeahhhhhhh!!!! That's what i like to hear, it makes us all look better.
 
rocketbooster said:
....you guys are missing a key point....

med schools don't look at the adjusted percentile you guys are referring to made of only applicants. they use your percentile that's based on all MCAT examinees.
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they might not use it explicitly, but you're competing against the pool of applicants, not the people who didn't apply.
 
rocketbooster said:
....you guys are missing a key point....

med schools don't look at the adjusted percentile you guys are referring to made of only applicants. they use your percentile that's based on all MCAT examinees.
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you're missing a key point... the question is what is the proper MCAT score range to fit the criterion of "something that 90% of applicants don't have".

(which, incidentally, could be the bottom 10% as well.)
 
vickpick said:
ummmm... publications,
3.9+ GPA,
keen interest in euro league soccer,
adidas cologne (who knew they made some?),
bootleg Burnout Paradise,
both a desktop and a laptop in their bedroom,
a mirror on all 4 walls of the room,
an intense hatred for dumb people,
a wanting for natural selection to work naturally on humans (so that all the "unfit," dumb people die... analogous to the last one)
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...wtf.


LUEshi
 
Going back to the minor point. If you look at the aamc's tabulated data over several years it appears that the top 11.7% of accepted students had a 36+. 6.4% of applicants did. Kinda depressing, I'm not as bad ass as I thought :*(
 
rabidpanda13 said:
I spent a summer interviewing inmates at the county jail, in a room, 5 at a time, by myself, no guards, no handcuffs. Is this an experience 90% of applicants don't have?

PS. I'm a girl.
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You're crazyyy :scared:

Myuu said:
It's not the length, it's the volume.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Lukkie said:
LET got accepted, she's a goddess 😱
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I keep on reading this all over sdn

biomed1010 said:
Volunteering in another country
37+ MCAT


Keep the list going!
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I'm pretty sure 90% of the premeds out there aren't orphans. Yay, I'm disadvantaged haha.
 
Myuu said:
Does that put me in the top 10%?:woot:
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and a girl? top 0.0000001%, at least. The patience I have to have in explaining torrents. That and the mistakes I have made in telling people I have a comic

"OMG, can I be init????"🙄
 
Kaustikos said:
and a girl? top 0.0000001%, at least. The patience I have to have in explaining torrents. That and the mistakes I have made in telling people I have a comic

"OMG, can I be init????"🙄
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Now, see, I only tell people who have no interest at all in comic books. Thus, this annoyance is avoided!

I am in someone else's comic book though. Apparently I'm a socially awkward magic user who fights pirates, but gives it up to go to med school.:laugh:
 
Myuu said:
Now, see, I only tell people who have no interest at all in comic books. Thus, this annoyance is avoided!

I am in someone else's comic book though. Apparently I'm a socially awkward magic user who fights pirates, but gives it up to go to med school.:laugh:
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What I should've done. Apparently working in a lab/pharmaceutical and saying you're working/have a comic only brings upon that which I wish didn't happen.

How would I fit 15 characters in 1 comic? Im not making XMen!
 
Kaustikos said:
What I should've done. Apparently working in a lab/pharmaceutical and saying you're working/have a comic only brings upon that which I wish didn't happen.

How would I fit 15 characters in 1 comic? Im not making XMen!
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X-Men's not just one comic, though! You'll have multiple books to expand into.:laugh:

See, none of my lab coworkers are into comics. At least one likes Galactica, so I guess that's a start...

I really don't like writing people in, though... What happens when they think your characterization of them is wrong? What happens when you make them suddenly gain weight? What happens when your villain kills them off?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Myuu said:
X-Men's not just one comic, though! You'll have multiple books to expand into.:laugh:

See, none of my lab coworkers are into comics. At least one likes Galactica, so I guess that's a start...

I really don't like writing people in, though... What happens when they think your characterization of them is wrong? What happens when you make them suddenly gain weight? What happens when your villain kills them off?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Exactly!
"Im sorry, but someone had to die...and so it had to be you... Oh, don't ask why the person that did it had a striking resemblance to me! None-correlative, I swear!":laugh:
 
Kaustikos said:
Exactly!
"Im sorry, but someone had to die...and so it had to be you... Oh, don't ask why the person that did it had a striking resemblance to me! None-correlative, I swear!":laugh:
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"Well, someone had to die because of all the momentum building from _________________ and it couldn't be ___________, or __________, or _____________, because they all need to ______________________ in order to have _____________________________ by the time __________________, or my universal continuity is completely blown, okay?"
 
See, none of my lab coworkers are into comics. At least one likes Galactica, so I guess that's a start...

Yeah BSG! P.S. Bendis Rocks!!!!
 
witness23 said:
americans are so fat and lazy!
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I ate a Reese's on the couch while reading Shape magazine the other day. At least I'm, you know, studying exercise while I partake of the calories and down time. Kind of.

That's something.

.....right?
 
circulus vitios said:
a part time job because their mommy and daddy can't afford to fly them around the world to volunteer abroad...
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Wow, very bitter. Most of the people who actually got into medical school out of my undergrad institution (Beemers ahoy) were not the kids driving said BMW's. Most of us have worked one or two serious part-time jobs and one kid worked full time. None of us volunteered abroad and most of us never volunteered outside of our home state or home town for that matter. I'm sure this is the case at most other places.

Anyway to add to the thread: A sweet mustache, and by sweet I mean the kind that curls at the end, or a llama farm, or a minstrel (I really really want my own minstrel)
 
drizzt3117 said:
It sounds about right to me. Let's do an example. 39 MCAT is 98.9th percentile among test takers. If n = 70000 for all people taking the MCAT in one year, that is about 770 people. That score is about 2 standard deviations above the mean for applicants, meaning that it's at about 98th percentile among applicants. 770 / .02 = 38500. I think there was more like 43000 applicants but there is also an issue with the statistics in terms of summing the mean scores in that way.

Another way to look at it is that 37 is ~96% so if there are 70000 test takers, 2800 of them scored 37 or above, where as probably 3200-3500 of them scored 36 or above. That's reasonably close to 10% of applicants. People might also be applying with MCAT scores from previous cycles as well. Keep in mind the 37 as 10% is an estimate as the calculated amount (34.7 or whatever) was at the 84.2% percentile. The curve steepens pretty quickly around that score so it might very well be that 35.7-36 is actually the 90th percentile, which would make much more sense looking at the data.

If someone really wants to do all of the calculations with excel or what, the data is here, I was running numbers in my head so they might be a little off.

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/
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http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/admissionsadvisors/examstatistics/scaledscores/start.htm

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/mcatgpa-grid-3yrs-app-accpt.htm

Looks like a 36 is 96th percentile for people who take the exam, 92nd percentile for applicants, and 88th percentile for acceptances.
 
It's nice to see a lot of responses.

Here are some more:

Outstanding leadership roles - President/Vice President/Treasure, etc for your school, or any other organization

A non-science major

A Masters Degree
 
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