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Hi,

I am about to sign a contract with a locum tenens recruiting company and i wonder if anyone has any advice or experiences to share. I am a little skeptical about signing the contract since I never heard about it before.

To make a long story short, I completed one year of residency and left to pursue another specialty. I ended up not re matching and a few weeks ago I heard about locum jobs. I am reapply for residency and they are aware of it.

Thanks
 
Hi,

I am about to sign a contract with a locum tenens recruiting company and i wonder if anyone has any advice or experiences to share. I am a little skeptical about signing the contract since I never heard about it before.

To make a long story short, I completed one year of residency and left to pursue another specialty. I ended up not re matching and a few weeks ago I heard about locum jobs. I am reapply for residency and they are aware of it.

Thanks

You've never heard of "locum tenens" before, or never heard of this company before?

What do you have to be skeptical of (other than not getting paid)? Does the contract seem sketchy? Are you working for the mob or the Taliban?

The worst that can happen is that you work for a few weeks, don't get paid and then quit. Best case scenario, you make some fat cash while you're re-applying in the Match.
 
Several thoughts:

1. Just because an LT company is talking to you, that doesn't mean they are going to find you a job.

2. It is very atypical to sign a contract with an LT company. Usually they find a practice opportunity, and you sign a contract about that job / position. If they are having you sign a contract just with them, why?

3. No matter what, make sure that anything you sign doesn't cost you money. You shouldn't have to pay for anything -- licensing, travel, etc. It also shouldn't prevent you from finding your own job, or working with a different LT company.

Here are my Tips / Traps for Locum positions that I share with my residents. In the spirit of fluu disclosure, I didn't write this -- one of my graduating residents who did a year of LT before fellowship did:

Locum Tenens: Don't Get Screwed

Before making even that first call to a locum tenens company, you need to be prepared. Hopefully this will help.

1. What is locum tenens?
As a locum tenens doctor, you will be an independent contractor. The locums company will hook you up with a job somewhere, but you are not an employee of the locums company nor the firm/hospital where you work. This is important to realize because (a) you will be in a higher tax bracket, (b) you get no benefits (e.g. you must buy your own health insurance), and (c) you get paid by the hour, so if you don't work (e.g. on a sick day), you don't get paid.

2. What happens when I call the company for the first time?
You will be connected with a recruiter. Make no mistake about it: this person is not your friend. You must approach your dealings with this person as if you are dealing with a car salesperson; a healthy dose of skepticism is a must. That being said, you want to be civil, because the recruiter is not going to want to sully the company's reputation by placing a rude doctor who has the potential to piss off the people in the practice in which (s)he is placed. The recruiter will ask you a bunch of questions about what you are looking for (hospitalist vs. outpatient vs. mixed), which geographic areas you are interested in, etc. Think about what you want BEFORE making the call. These recruiters love it if it seems like you don't know what you want. Why? They will TELL you what you want, talking up various jobs they couldn't get anyone else to take. They figure, since you are wishy-washy, it will be easier to push you into what they need to fill.

3. Government jobs vs. private practice.
The advantage to working for the govt (i.e. for a VA hospital or clinic) is that you only need ONE state medical license—in any state—and you can then work at any VA in the country. Also, it is likely that the VA will let you use their DEA #, which is a huge plus coming right out of residency, because your own DEA # can take a LONG time to come through. The disadvantage to working for the govt is that the salary is less and everything that the locums company provides for you (apt, rental car, etc) is going to be more no-frills. For example, most private-practice outpatient salaries are about $60/hr, whereas the VA outpatient work usually pays $45-50/hr. Private-practice jobs will give you a bigger, nicer car with power windows, while the VA jobs will give you a Chevy Cavalier with manual windows. Get the picture? All that being said, the job descriptions for the govt jobs seem to be more standard than the private-practice jobs. There seems to be higher potential to be abused in a private job, where they can basically set any schedule for you they want, as long as you agree to it and sign the contract. As you all know, outpatient clerks, nurses, etc. at the VA start to disappear around 4pm, which means that your hours will be more predictable. Also keep in mind that you will get holidays off when you work for the govt.

If you want to go private, make sure you find out from the recruiter how long it usually takes to get a license in the state you want to work. For example, CA can take up to 9 mos, whereas some other states have special locums/temp licenses that can come through in 1-2 mos. This brings me to the next point:

4. How many licenses should I get?
The recruiter may try to get you to sign up for a few licenses up front. This will be tempting, because they handle most of the paperwork. Also, they will try to stick a clause in the contract that says something to the effect of "if you don't work in a state where we get you a license, then you must reimburse us for the cost of that license." Negotiate that point; they should pay for at least one or two licenses for you as a cost of doing business. Also, keep this in mind: a wise man once said, "Be careful about signing up for licenses you may not use; they will haunt you for the rest of your life." As much as I hate to admit it, he is right. Even if you don't USE a license, once it is issued, you will have to include it on every form you ever fill out for the rest of your life. This will possibly delay your various applications for various things while your "history" in every state in which you are licensed is checked out.

5. When I am presented with an opportunity by a locums company, how long should I commit for?
This is a highly personal decision. Your chances of a practice wanting you are better if you commit up-front to a longer tour of duty. Obviously, the practice wants to train as few people as possible, so if you say you can work from Sept-Jan and another doctor says she can only work from Sept-Nov, you will probably get the job. But, make sure you know everything about the job before committing to longer than a month or two.

6. Talk to the supervising doctor at the practice/hospital at which you're thinking about working.
OK, so the recruiter calls you with a job opportunity that sounds pretty good. I strongly recommend asking for a contact person at the job. These recruiters know almost nothing about how a practice or hospital really works when it comes to call schedules and censuses, etc. You want to have a list of questions and get them all answered by someone who KNOWS—i.e. someone who works there. Take notes while you talk to this person—everything they say will need to go into the contract you sign later. Beware, the recruiter may want to keep you away from a contact person, telling you something like, "We try to get as complete a description of the job as we can, to make it easier for you." Nonsense. They just don't want you finding anything out that you may not like, which would kill the deal. Better to find out before you move across the country. In a normal job interview, you would probably never ask some of the things up-front that you MUST ask when you are dealing with a locum tenens situation. Do NOT be shy about nailing down the details of call, hours, number of patients you will be expected to see, etc. If you don't ask, the practice WILL take advantage of you. Think about it—they're paying for your time, and they don't need you to be really happy if you're only going to be there a couple of months, so their goal is to milk as much work out of you as is possible in the specified time period. Remember, if you are talking to them on the phone, it is because the recruiter has already "presented" you to that practice, and the practice likes what they see on paper. They will hire you without ever speaking to you—that's how locums works. So don't worry about talking to them about job specifics.

7. Don't just get it in writing, get it in writing EARLY.
The locums company will ask for a verbal commitment from you as soon as a practice indicates that they "want" you. Once you give your commitment, you are already in a weaker position to bargain. The locums company can—and will—wait until the very last minute to present you with a contract. Then, at that last minute, they will put things in there that shouldn't be and eliminate other things that should be. Yes, the famed "bait and switch." They figure you've been counting on this job and will sign just about anything. DO NOT BECOME A VICTIM OF THIS! Early on, you need to type up those notes you took about the job details and e-mail them over to the recruiter. Ask the recruiter to add a little sentence in there about how the details as you have described them look about right. If they try to change things when you actually get the contract, you will at least be able to show them what they previously agreed to, which may make it a little easier to get it into the contract as it should be. Also, make sure you get some sort of e-mail or "preliminary contract" early on that includes all the details of payment, termination clauses, etc. For example, perhaps you are negotiating for a govt outpatient job that will be paying $50/hr. Make sure you know IN ADVANCE whether this job pays overtime, and at what rate. If overtime hours (anything over 40 hrs per week, usually) are billed at the standard rate instead of 60, 70, or even time and a half, you want to know that up-front, so that maybe you can find a different job that pays overtime hours at a higher rate. Make sure you ASK about the holiday policy. What is standard for private practice contracts may not apply to some govt contracts. For example, holiday pay is often 1 ½ times the usual salary. If you don't work on a holiday, but you have to work the day before or the day after a holiday, then you may be entitled to receive ½ the usual pay on the holiday (i.e. you get half pay for NOT going to work). Also, think about the termination clause. Usually, a practice has to give 30 days notice; beware the locums company that tries to put in a clause that says you can be terminated at any time without notice or compensation. Many of these "notice" clauses are in the "generic contract," but may be conspicuously absent or radically changed when you receive your assignment-specific contract. You should also insist on a clause of your own: "If the reality of the practice fails to conform to the practice description that is in the contract, then the Physician [that's you] may terminate the contract with 10 days notice."

8. Contracts, malpractice, and payment.
READ every line of the contract. Yes, most of it is a generic contract, but just about every line is negotiable. ASK about whether the locum tenens company's malpractice insurance has a "tail." That is, you want to make sure that no matter what happens when, if you ever get sued, you'll be covered—no exceptions. KNOW how and when you will get paid. If the practice takes its sweet time paying the locums company every two weeks, does the locums company guarantee your salary to be on time, since the check will likely come directly from the locums company? Worse yet, if the practice defaults, will the locums company pay you out of its pocket and deal with the practice later—on the company's time, not yours?


9. Don't sign it if it isn't right.
If the locums company tries to screw you at the last minute (or at any time, for that matter), don't sign the contract. So what if it's the day before you are scheduled to fly out to the practice? Insist that the locums company present you with a contract that you find acceptable. Do not get on a plane until that contract is signed and countersigned. Once you get to the practice location, you have no bargaining leverage whatsoever. Remember, the locums company's reputation depends on you being at the job as originally promised to the practice. The company will not let the deal fall through. You CAN hold the deal hostage if they are being unfair to you. They know you want the job, but if they think you're willing to kill the deal on a certain point, they will cave to some extent.

10. Why so much space devoted to getting screwed by the locums company?
It has to do with how the company gets paid. There are different financial situations for govt and private practice, but let's take the govt jobs as an example. Govt jobs are often a "bid." This means that several locums companies vie for the privilege of providing their physicians to that govt facility. Obviously, the company with the best combination of a low bid and doctors that the facility is interested in will win the bid. So, let's say that Locums Company X successfully wins the bid at a price of $90/hr. Company X will now receive $90/hr from the govt for every hour the physician works. So out of that $90/hr, Company X will pay the physician his/her hourly wage, buy the physician's round-trip airfare (if applicable), rent the physician a car, pay for a furnished apt and utilities, etc. You can see that, for every dollar Company X does NOT spend on the physician, that is a dollar that goes into Company X's pocket. Get ready to be nickel and dimed, people. Make sure you ask about EVERYTHING up-front. If you must have a certain amenity (like a dishwasher or W/D) in your apt, make sure the recruiter knows that up-front and that it will be a deal-breaker if they try to screw you.


11. With all this talk about getting screwed, why do locum tenens at all?
Well, you can live in parts of the country you've never seen before. You can make a lot of money and not have any expenses other than food, entertainment and, ironically, personal medical insurance (malpractice is covered by the locums company). You can kill time while looking for a more permanent job or waiting to start a fellowship. If you are waiting for one year to start your fellowship, locums will be ideal, because most practices don't want to hire someone as a "perm" if that doctor will only be around for one year. Also, keep in mind that many practices hire locums docs with the intent of making them into perms, so you can try out a practice for a couple of months "risk-free" and then decide whether to join or not.
 
Good post Aprog.

OP, you are not board-certified, so you are a begger and cannot be too picky. Just make sure that the contract does not restrict you from working for other people.

Locums is good in that you get clinical experience while waiting for training. Do not do ER unless you have surgical experience at a major trauma center in a violent city. Even in rural areas, you will get GSWs to the head, thorax, or abdomen. Otherwise stick to urgent-care, prisons, occ med and clinics. Do not do pain management per se but do take of pain in your normal course of clinical activity.

If they accept you, they will pay you the same as everyone else. I would not worry about how much they pay though. Just work and maintain your skills. Be paranoid and OCD. Take extra care to get the patient and his family on your side. This way, you don't get sued if complications occur.

Remember, your goal should be to finish training.
 
what possible locums job can you get with just one year internship.. Im just asking,
 
Thank you very much. The information you provided is of great value to me and others.
 
Good post Aprog.

OP, you are not board-certified, so you are a begger and cannot be too picky. Just make sure that the contract does not restrict you from working for other people.

Locums is good in that you get clinical experience while waiting for training. Do not do ER unless you have surgical experience at a major trauma center in a violent city. Even in rural areas, you will get GSWs to the head, thorax, or abdomen. Otherwise stick to urgent-care, prisons, occ med and clinics. Do not do pain management per se but do take of pain in your normal course of clinical activity.

If they accept you, they will pay you the same as everyone else. I would not worry about how much they pay though. Just work and maintain your skills. Be paranoid and OCD. Take extra care to get the patient and his family on your side. This way, you don't get sued if complications occur.

Remember, your goal should be to finish training.

Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
 
Several thoughts:

1. Just because an LT company is talking to you, that doesn't mean they are going to find you a job.

2. It is very atypical to sign a contract with an LT company. Usually they find a practice opportunity, and you sign a contract about that job / position. If they are having you sign a contract just with them, why?

3. No matter what, make sure that anything you sign doesn't cost you money. You shouldn't have to pay for anything -- licensing, travel, etc. It also shouldn't prevent you from finding your own job, or working with a different LT company.

Here are my Tips / Traps for Locum positions that I share with my residents. In the spirit of fluu disclosure, I didn't write this -- one of my graduating residents who did a year of LT before fellowship did:

Locum Tenens: Don’t Get Screwed

Before making even that first call to a locum tenens company, you need to be prepared. Hopefully this will help.

1. What is locum tenens?
As a locum tenens doctor, you will be an independent contractor. The locums company will hook you up with a job somewhere, but you are not an employee of the locums company nor the firm/hospital where you work. This is important to realize because (a) you will be in a higher tax bracket, (b) you get no benefits (e.g. you must buy your own health insurance), and (c) you get paid by the hour, so if you don’t work (e.g. on a sick day), you don’t get paid.

2. What happens when I call the company for the first time?
You will be connected with a recruiter. Make no mistake about it: this person is not your friend. You must approach your dealings with this person as if you are dealing with a car salesperson; a healthy dose of skepticism is a must. That being said, you want to be civil, because the recruiter is not going to want to sully the company’s reputation by placing a rude doctor who has the potential to piss off the people in the practice in which (s)he is placed. The recruiter will ask you a bunch of questions about what you are looking for (hospitalist vs. outpatient vs. mixed), which geographic areas you are interested in, etc. Think about what you want BEFORE making the call. These recruiters love it if it seems like you don’t know what you want. Why? They will TELL you what you want, talking up various jobs they couldn’t get anyone else to take. They figure, since you are wishy-washy, it will be easier to push you into what they need to fill.

3. Government jobs vs. private practice.
The advantage to working for the govt (i.e. for a VA hospital or clinic) is that you only need ONE state medical license—in any state—and you can then work at any VA in the country. Also, it is likely that the VA will let you use their DEA #, which is a huge plus coming right out of residency, because your own DEA # can take a LONG time to come through. The disadvantage to working for the govt is that the salary is less and everything that the locums company provides for you (apt, rental car, etc) is going to be more no-frills. For example, most private-practice outpatient salaries are about $60/hr, whereas the VA outpatient work usually pays $45-50/hr. Private-practice jobs will give you a bigger, nicer car with power windows, while the VA jobs will give you a Chevy Cavalier with manual windows. Get the picture? All that being said, the job descriptions for the govt jobs seem to be more standard than the private-practice jobs. There seems to be higher potential to be abused in a private job, where they can basically set any schedule for you they want, as long as you agree to it and sign the contract. As you all know, outpatient clerks, nurses, etc. at the VA start to disappear around 4pm, which means that your hours will be more predictable. Also keep in mind that you will get holidays off when you work for the govt.

If you want to go private, make sure you find out from the recruiter how long it usually takes to get a license in the state you want to work. For example, CA can take up to 9 mos, whereas some other states have special locums/temp licenses that can come through in 1-2 mos. This brings me to the next point:

4. How many licenses should I get?
The recruiter may try to get you to sign up for a few licenses up front. This will be tempting, because they handle most of the paperwork. Also, they will try to stick a clause in the contract that says something to the effect of “if you don’t work in a state where we get you a license, then you must reimburse us for the cost of that license.” Negotiate that point; they should pay for at least one or two licenses for you as a cost of doing business. Also, keep this in mind: a wise man once said, “Be careful about signing up for licenses you may not use; they will haunt you for the rest of your life.” As much as I hate to admit it, he is right. Even if you don’t USE a license, once it is issued, you will have to include it on every form you ever fill out for the rest of your life. This will possibly delay your various applications for various things while your “history” in every state in which you are licensed is checked out.

5. When I am presented with an opportunity by a locums company, how long should I commit for?
This is a highly personal decision. Your chances of a practice wanting you are better if you commit up-front to a longer tour of duty. Obviously, the practice wants to train as few people as possible, so if you say you can work from Sept-Jan and another doctor says she can only work from Sept-Nov, you will probably get the job. But, make sure you know everything about the job before committing to longer than a month or two.

6. Talk to the supervising doctor at the practice/hospital at which you’re thinking about working.
OK, so the recruiter calls you with a job opportunity that sounds pretty good. I strongly recommend asking for a contact person at the job. These recruiters know almost nothing about how a practice or hospital really works when it comes to call schedules and censuses, etc. You want to have a list of questions and get them all answered by someone who KNOWS—i.e. someone who works there. Take notes while you talk to this person—everything they say will need to go into the contract you sign later. Beware, the recruiter may want to keep you away from a contact person, telling you something like, “We try to get as complete a description of the job as we can, to make it easier for you.” Nonsense. They just don’t want you finding anything out that you may not like, which would kill the deal. Better to find out before you move across the country. In a normal job interview, you would probably never ask some of the things up-front that you MUST ask when you are dealing with a locum tenens situation. Do NOT be shy about nailing down the details of call, hours, number of patients you will be expected to see, etc. If you don’t ask, the practice WILL take advantage of you. Think about it—they’re paying for your time, and they don’t need you to be really happy if you’re only going to be there a couple of months, so their goal is to milk as much work out of you as is possible in the specified time period. Remember, if you are talking to them on the phone, it is because the recruiter has already “presented” you to that practice, and the practice likes what they see on paper. They will hire you without ever speaking to you—that’s how locums works. So don’t worry about talking to them about job specifics.

7. Don’t just get it in writing, get it in writing EARLY.
The locums company will ask for a verbal commitment from you as soon as a practice indicates that they “want” you. Once you give your commitment, you are already in a weaker position to bargain. The locums company can—and will—wait until the very last minute to present you with a contract. Then, at that last minute, they will put things in there that shouldn’t be and eliminate other things that should be. Yes, the famed “bait and switch.” They figure you’ve been counting on this job and will sign just about anything. DO NOT BECOME A VICTIM OF THIS! Early on, you need to type up those notes you took about the job details and e-mail them over to the recruiter. Ask the recruiter to add a little sentence in there about how the details as you have described them look about right. If they try to change things when you actually get the contract, you will at least be able to show them what they previously agreed to, which may make it a little easier to get it into the contract as it should be. Also, make sure you get some sort of e-mail or “preliminary contract” early on that includes all the details of payment, termination clauses, etc. For example, perhaps you are negotiating for a govt outpatient job that will be paying $50/hr. Make sure you know IN ADVANCE whether this job pays overtime, and at what rate. If overtime hours (anything over 40 hrs per week, usually) are billed at the standard rate instead of 60, 70, or even time and a half, you want to know that up-front, so that maybe you can find a different job that pays overtime hours at a higher rate. Make sure you ASK about the holiday policy. What is standard for private practice contracts may not apply to some govt contracts. For example, holiday pay is often 1 ½ times the usual salary. If you don’t work on a holiday, but you have to work the day before or the day after a holiday, then you may be entitled to receive ½ the usual pay on the holiday (i.e. you get half pay for NOT going to work). Also, think about the termination clause. Usually, a practice has to give 30 days notice; beware the locums company that tries to put in a clause that says you can be terminated at any time without notice or compensation. Many of these “notice” clauses are in the “generic contract,” but may be conspicuously absent or radically changed when you receive your assignment-specific contract. You should also insist on a clause of your own: “If the reality of the practice fails to conform to the practice description that is in the contract, then the Physician [that’s you] may terminate the contract with 10 days notice.”

8. Contracts, malpractice, and payment.
READ every line of the contract. Yes, most of it is a generic contract, but just about every line is negotiable. ASK about whether the locum tenens company’s malpractice insurance has a “tail.” That is, you want to make sure that no matter what happens when, if you ever get sued, you’ll be covered—no exceptions. KNOW how and when you will get paid. If the practice takes its sweet time paying the locums company every two weeks, does the locums company guarantee your salary to be on time, since the check will likely come directly from the locums company? Worse yet, if the practice defaults, will the locums company pay you out of its pocket and deal with the practice later—on the company’s time, not yours?


9. Don’t sign it if it isn’t right.
If the locums company tries to screw you at the last minute (or at any time, for that matter), don’t sign the contract. So what if it’s the day before you are scheduled to fly out to the practice? Insist that the locums company present you with a contract that you find acceptable. Do not get on a plane until that contract is signed and countersigned. Once you get to the practice location, you have no bargaining leverage whatsoever. Remember, the locums company’s reputation depends on you being at the job as originally promised to the practice. The company will not let the deal fall through. You CAN hold the deal hostage if they are being unfair to you. They know you want the job, but if they think you’re willing to kill the deal on a certain point, they will cave to some extent.

10. Why so much space devoted to getting screwed by the locums company?
It has to do with how the company gets paid. There are different financial situations for govt and private practice, but let’s take the govt jobs as an example. Govt jobs are often a “bid.” This means that several locums companies vie for the privilege of providing their physicians to that govt facility. Obviously, the company with the best combination of a low bid and doctors that the facility is interested in will win the bid. So, let’s say that Locums Company X successfully wins the bid at a price of $90/hr. Company X will now receive $90/hr from the govt for every hour the physician works. So out of that $90/hr, Company X will pay the physician his/her hourly wage, buy the physician’s round-trip airfare (if applicable), rent the physician a car, pay for a furnished apt and utilities, etc. You can see that, for every dollar Company X does NOT spend on the physician, that is a dollar that goes into Company X’s pocket. Get ready to be nickel and dimed, people. Make sure you ask about EVERYTHING up-front. If you must have a certain amenity (like a dishwasher or W/D) in your apt, make sure the recruiter knows that up-front and that it will be a deal-breaker if they try to screw you.


11. With all this talk about getting screwed, why do locum tenens at all?
Well, you can live in parts of the country you’ve never seen before. You can make a lot of money and not have any expenses other than food, entertainment and, ironically, personal medical insurance (malpractice is covered by the locums company). You can kill time while looking for a more permanent job or waiting to start a fellowship. If you are waiting for one year to start your fellowship, locums will be ideal, because most practices don’t want to hire someone as a “perm” if that doctor will only be around for one year. Also, keep in mind that many practices hire locums docs with the intent of making them into perms, so you can try out a practice for a couple of months “risk-free” and then decide whether to join or not.

You have covered all the questions I had. Thank you for your help. I never heard of locum jobs before and honestly, it sounded too good to be true. I am in the process of getting my license and I will be placed on a VA hospital if things work out. The recruiter has mentioned a position with India Health Services. Should I have any reservations about accepting a position in a reserve location? I heard about someone being placed on a location without running water. It's hard to believe they would do that.
Thank you once again for your response.
 
what possible locums job can you get with just one year internship.. Im just asking,

You can get general practioner positions. Some states require only one year of residency for board certification.
 
You can get general practioner positions. Some states require only one year of residency for board certification.

you can take your specialty boards with only 1 year of residency? did you get board certified?
which specialties are those?
also, please tell me where i can find states that allow for this. thanks so much.
please pm me about what locums company to use if you can. i would much appreciate it. i am in a similar boat as you--looking for a job after a total of 2 years residency.
 
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You can get general practioner positions. Some states require only one year of residency for board certification.

I am afraid you are mistaken.

Some states only require 1 year of residency for LICENSURE.

There are no 1 year residencies and no specialties in which you can become Board Certified (at least none of the "real" Boards) with one year of residency.
 
For licensure information you can go to the fsmb.org
For board licensure you have to complete residency
 
For licensure information you can go to the fsmb.org
For board licensure you have to complete residency

There is no such thing as "board licensure".

You are either:

licensed
Board Eligible/Certified
or both

The former requires a medical degree and a certain amount of GME as noted in the fsmb.org document.

Board Eligibility/Certification requires a medical license and completion of residency.
 
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