look too young??

[Madhatter]

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does anyone think that looking young puts you at a disadvantage for med school and job interviews?? i feel like a kid dressed up in a suit and am worried this will put me at a disadvantage for jobs??

 

[MeMyselfI]

does anyone think that looking young puts you at a disadvantage for med school and job interviews?? i feel like a kid dressed up in a suit and am worried this will put me at a disadvantage for jobs??

I completely understand. I am 4'11" and weigh 100lbs. People are always telling me that I look like I'm about 12 or 14 yrs old. 🙁

 

[lowbudget]

No, give me a break. If anything, it'll make your interviewer feel like an old fart. But it has nothing to do with you. Now if you can't act like an adult when you're wearing a suit, that's a different issue. If they smell blood and feel like you're not mature enough to handle med school, they'll smack you down. But just remember that after 4 years of med school and at least 3 years of residency, you too will be one big old fart when you get out and you would have squandered away the prime of your life. You can only look young once in your life. Enjoy it.

 

[UCLAstudent]

I have the same problem, and it hasn't been an issue at my interviews so far. In fact, ironically, one interviewer commented on how mature I looked. I think that it is all about how you carry yourself.

 

[Madhatter]

what abt for job interviews?

 

[aparecida]

does anyone think that looking young puts you at a disadvantage for med school and job interviews?? i feel like a kid dressed up in a suit and am worried this will put me at a disadvantage for jobs??

Do make sure that your suit fits you well, your hair is groomed, you've shaved, you don't carry yourself as though you were wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I've been trying to put my finger on why so many 20-year-old guys look dumb in suits, and I think the biggest reason is that they haven't bothered to get them tailored properly and so the suit obviously, literally, doesn't fit them. A lot of them also have unkempt hair or stubble. Or their body language doesn't fit the suit. Make sure none of these applies to you, act like an adult, and you'll be fine.

 

[Blake]

Not here. I'm 19 and I look like a 15 year old...

 

[Madhatter]

i'm a girl...

 

[aparecida]

haha oops, sorry. Uh ... again, make sure your suit fits; button the suit; make sure your shirt is either a button-down collared blouse or a silk shell; make sure the suit is a dark color and has long sleeves and a skirt that's knee length (or pants). Wear closed-toe pumps with heels no higher than 3", don't cake on orangey foundation, don't wear perfume, do wear some tasteful makeup (neutral lipstick, a bit of blush, mascara, neutral eyeshadow), and pull your hair back. Those are the female equivalents that make people look like kids in suits.

 

[Madhatter]

i was thinking of wearing my hair down, b/c if i wear it back i feel that it makes my face look smaller and the suit bigger (does anyone also find this?)

 

[RaistlinMajere]

does anyone think that looking young puts you at a disadvantage for med school and job interviews?? i feel like a kid dressed up in a suit and am worried this will put me at a disadvantage for jobs??

I think it's much worse to look old for a variety of reasons. The interviewer would be wondering about if you were too old to make it through the rigors of school and the residency.

I guess ideally a person would be old, but look young.

 

[fpr85]

Not here. I'm 19 and I look like a 15 year old...

You're 19 and in MS1? Didn't attend undergrad?

what abt for job interviews?

Getting to this quote in relation to a thread that was posted a few days ago entitled somewhere along the lines of "is this inappropriate to ask in an (med school) interview", I was wondering if any of you guys think these are inappropriate to ask in a job interview:

1) What is the base pay?
2) Do you get overtime pay on holidays?
3) When/how often do you get pay raises?
4) Are there opportunities to raise in the company (promotions)?

These seem like pretty standard questions but I didn't ask them in the job I'm working at now (which also happened to be, technically, my first job) and I'm wondering if this is why I've worked there for a year and am still only getting $6.15/hour (I got a raise a week ago, $0.15, WOW!)... or that could just be that Blockbuster sucks ass!!! 😡

 

[DJ.Doc]

I know what you mean hell i got carded last time at the friggin movie theater and i'm 21! i mean jesus.

 

[ut_stephen]

does anyone think that looking young puts you at a disadvantage for med school and job interviews?? i feel like a kid dressed up in a suit and am worried this will put me at a disadvantage for jobs??

I just turned 20 and I'm Asian (we tend to look younger), so I had the same fears as you. So far, I have not encountered any problems with either my age or the way I look. It's all about how you carry and present yourself. Just speak with confidence and you'll be fine. While I do think that people who look a little bit older (mid-20's) are less closely scrutinized, as long as you are mature, it shouldn't be a problem. Best of luck.

 

[iamgoaloriented]

I've heard med school teachers say that we are all kids to them anyway, even the ones who are older, so I don't think it'll make that much of a difference.

 

[RaistlinMajere]

1) What is the base pay?
2) Do you get overtime pay on holidays?
3) When/how often do you get pay raises?
4) Are there opportunities to raise in the company (promotions)?

I think it depends on the job and how badly you want it. Each of those questions could blow you up, if taken the wrong way. Except for #4 which would be fine.

 

[Medikit]

I completely understand. I am 4'11" and weigh 100lbs. People are always telling me that I look like I'm about 12 or 14 yrs old. 🙁

I don't think they let 12 year olds be doctors 🙁

 

[sdnstud]

You're 19 and in MS1? Didn't attend undergrad?

Getting to this quote in relation to a thread that was posted a few days ago entitled somewhere along the lines of "is this inappropriate to ask in an (med school) interview", I was wondering if any of you guys think these are inappropriate to ask in a job interview:

1) What is the base pay?
2) Do you get overtime pay on holidays?
3) When/how often do you get pay raises?
4) Are there opportunities to raise in the company (promotions)?
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I don't think it is inappropriate. Ask those questions at teh end of the interview. Say something like "I hate to ask questions about my pay, but I'm a student and this job will be my primary financial resource..."

 

[iamgoaloriented]

I don't think they let 12 year olds be doctors 🙁

Actually, there are a few doogie howsers out there. I heard theres a girl around that age at U Penn right now.

 

[Anka]

To the OP,

It affects things, and it's good you're consious of it. But it doesn't have to be fatal, and it can actually be an advantage. Short term, talk to a professional shopper (e.g., at Macy's) and specifically mention your concern. Go to a hair place frequented by the business crowd (ideally, wearing your suit), and get a consult/haircut. Also, have a friend make a video of you, and make sure you aren't doing things that make you look even smaller than you are (e.g., twirling your hair, sitting small in your chair, slouching, saying 'uh' or 'like', bobbing your head). Longer term, if this is a real concern, you should find female role models for this part of your life, and watch how they handle it. Also, if you have a particularly high or soft voice, you might get a voice coach.

Anka

 

[kalix]

haha oops, sorry. Uh ... again, make sure your suit fits; button the suit; make sure your shirt is either a button-down collared blouse or a silk shell; make sure the suit is a dark color and has long sleeves and a skirt that's knee length (or pants). Wear closed-toe pumps with heels no higher than 3", don't cake on orangey foundation, don't wear perfume, do wear some tasteful makeup (neutral lipstick, a bit of blush, mascara, neutral eyeshadow), and pull your hair back. Those are the female equivalents that make people look like kids in suits.

hey come on now, you sound like the floor manager at Abercrombie!!!!

 

[aparecida]

hey come on now, you sound like the floor manager at Abercrombie!!!!

heh, a bit, I know. But those really are the biggest things people do that make them look like kids playing dress-up.

i was thinking of wearing my hair down, b/c if i wear it back i feel that it makes my face look smaller and the suit bigger (does anyone also find this?)

If the suit looks too big, it needs to be altered -- it should fit closely to your body without looking tight. Your hair doesn't have to be all the way back, but you should at least pull back the top layer. (You do this for the same reason you wear hose and closed shoes: hair that's worn down, like bare legs and exposed toes, has a subconscious "sexy" vibe that tends not to be apparent to us as college students, but stands out to businesspeople and older people.)

I like Anka's advice about perhaps seeing a professional about your "look." Also, I found it helped me a lot to try on my suit and wear it around the house a few times. It started to look a lot more natural on me once I started getting used to the look and feel of myself in the suit.

 

[v-tach]

I completely understand. I am 4'11" and weigh 100lbs. People are always telling me that I look like I'm about 12 or 14 yrs old. 🙁

I can relate--5'2" and 105lbs. What's really bad is being on a squad call and having the PATIENT make a comment like that...it's happened to me a couple of times! 🙂

 

[Madhatter]

should i wear a suit to a staffing agency interview?? they just want me to hand in my references...

 

[FlushingNemo]

To the OP,

Also, if you have a particularly high or soft voice, you might get a voice coach.

Anka

Heh, I remember the first time I heard my voice recorded. I freaked. I never realized it was so high. And to top it off, my mother's landscape designer thought I was 8 years old when I answered the phone the other day. Maybe I should do something about this...

 

[Napoleon1801]

There's always surgical correction... Hey and as an added bonus, something to talk about during the interview!

 

[Noeljan]

haha
I look really young (or so I have been told). When I had to do my nursing school clinicals it was out of control. I would CONSTANTLY have patients and families ask me if I was the CNA, or if I was the HS volunteer. Lots of time people would ask what year I was and I would say a senior. They would reply with oh you go to Ken West (a HS around here). I would say ummm no a senior at UB. It is hard sometimes especially if you have people that you have to make assignments for or keep track of, and you feel like they don't think they have to listen to you bc you are younger. You just have to stay calm and realize you have the intelligence behind you.

 

[fpr85]

I'm 19, 6'0 and 200 lbs 😳

As far as looks go, I say I look about my age (people even tend to think I'm older, but that's probably due to the way I act) -- I just wish I had more facial hair. (don't worry, I'm not a chick )

 

[morganlefay]

So what if you ARE really young. 😛 Seriously, though, I don't know what to think because I've had some nurses ask me if I was an MS1 (when volunteering at a hospital), and then someone else turning around and telling me I look 12 and where am I going to high school? I think it all depends on the way I wear my hair (pulling it up makes me look older) and how I happen to appear on any particular day. I've been able to pass as a 21 year old, but I'm just barely 19. I just hope it's not a big deal in an interview.

 

[Blake]

You're 19 and in MS1? Didn't attend undergrad?

Not sure what undergrad means. It's just the way our med system works. 70 % of M1s are my age. The rest is made of people who studied in university.

And so far, they don't have any problems with us 😀

 

[45408]

does anyone think that looking young puts you at a disadvantage for med school and job interviews?? i feel like a kid dressed up in a suit and am worried this will put me at a disadvantage for jobs??

Med school, I doubt it will hurt you, unless you're acting like a child.

Job interview, it seems more plausible that you might not get a job because you look young (and therefore inexperienced/immature as well, even if it's not true).

I used to look really young - I started HS at 4'10 and probably under 100 pounds, but now I look pretty close to my age (20). Doesn't hurt that I have a pretty deep, manly voice now.

 

[45408]

Not sure what undergrad means. It's just the way our med system works. 70 % of M1s are my age. The rest is made of people who studied in university.

And so far, they don't have any problems with us 😀

Undergraduate = college = university


Some of you posters need to ID yourselves as male or female. A guy who's under 5' is gonna look pretty young, but some girls look pretty cute there.

 

[fpr85]

Not sure what undergrad means. It's just the way our med system works. 70 % of M1s are my age. The rest is made of people who studied in university.

And so far, they don't have any problems with us 😀

Prowler, that's an awesome smilie

From what I understand most people attend a four-year university when they're 18-21. But then again, they gotta it totally different up there, eh?

What about you morgan? 19 and already applying to med school... prodigy child? 😉

 

[UDbiochem]

I think I look older with my hair down. With my hair up, I always get the comments, "you look like you're 15, how old are you?"

 

[lorelei]

I was wondering if any of you guys think these are inappropriate to ask in a job interview:

1) What is the base pay?
2) Do you get overtime pay on holidays?
3) When/how often do you get pay raises?
4) Are there opportunities to raise in the company (promotions)?

The first three are all inappropriate to ask in the interview. You can discuss career growth, but not in the sense of "how long until I get a promotion and raise?" The time to discuss pay is after they have offered you the job.

I don't think that looking young is going to be a problem in med school interviews, because they have a lot of information about how old you actually are and what you've done. If you ACT young, that could hurt you. But as long as you're mature, I think you'll be fine.

During hospital volunteering, I often get mistaken for a high school volunteer - I'm 23 and have been out of college for a year and a half. I blame it on the ill-fitting blue jacket. I think I look like a grown-up when I get to choose my own clothes.

I wear my hair down most of the time, because I definitely look younger when I pull back the top layer. I keep it out of my face and have a good cut, though.

 

[fpr85]

The first three are all inappropriate to ask in the interview. You can discuss career growth, but not in the sense of "how long until I get a promotion and raise?" The time to discuss pay is after they have offered you the job.

Thanks everyone.

Wait -- just remembered something.
I didn't ask about the holiday pay when I applied for blockbuster and I really got screwed over. Only day I got paid overtime was Christmas day. They had me working every holiday imaginable w/o overtime (4th of July, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Thanksgiving, etc.), not that I'm bitching (well I guess I am) but I'd rather have been at home with my family instead of working for eight hours for $6 😡 I'm willing to make these commitments in the future when I'm a physician though *crosses fingers*

 

[frantic983]

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[fpr85]

Those are all piker questions. If you want vacation, go teach 3rd grade public school. Ask them about opportunities for innovation/ big projects, the corporate culture, moral, turn-over, the age/ time @ company of the average manager or director, and if they themselves eat the food in the cafeteria.

Perhaps I should've clarified myself, this is a part-time job (25 hrs/week) working at a Rite-Aid pharmacy, not a company.

piker?

 

[Fermata]

Perhaps I should've clarified myself, this is a part-time job (25 hrs/week) working at a Rite-Aid pharmacy, not a company.

piker?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=piker

"1 entry found for piker.
pik?er Audio pronunciation of "piker" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pkr)
n. Slang

1. A cautious gambler.
2. A person regarded as petty or stingy."

 

[morganlefay]

Prowler, that's an awesome smilie

From what I understand most people attend a four-year university when they're 18-21. But then again, they gotta it totally different up there, eh?

What about you morgan? 19 and already applying to med school... prodigy child? 😉

Yea, that's it, I'm a prodigy. 😉 No, just skipped a few grades and went through summers. I was home-schooled; I was an early reader. 'Tis all. I just hope they don't think I'm a inexperienced youngin'. I'm really not...I'm mature and I have a personality. Hopefully that will show in the interview.

 

[itsaliger]

kids, it doesn't stop once you start med school. i'm a 5'1" 105-pounder myself and i cannot tell you how many patients say things like,

'goodness! are they letting teenagers be doctors now?!'
'how OLD are you???'
'oh god - i had a panic attack for a second when i thought you were the real doctor. now how old are you now, sugar?'

and the best ever, from the VA, yelled across the floor by some guy in a wheelchair who was not even one of my patients in a very southern, southern drawl:

'ain't you just the smallest doctor i ever seeeeeeeeeen!'

get used to it. make light of it. make sure people understand that you're not in high school, but do it in a nice way. i used to be really sensitive about this, but i got over it, because a testy "um, i'm 24" isn't going to win you any friends. now i think it'll be a sad day when people stop saying things like that: it will mean i look old.

 

[akpete]

If it makes ya feel any better, my mom couldn't get served alcohol at Applebee's 2 years ago cuz she didn't have her ID. She's almost 44 right now. 🙂

 

[phleebie]

If it makes ya feel any better, my mom couldn't get served alcohol at Applebee's 2 years ago cuz she didn't have her ID. She's almost 44 right now. 🙂

i bet that made her pretty happy, actually.

 

[akpete]

Yeah, it made her feel pretty good. The best part though was that my dad and 2 of my younger brothers were with her!!

 

[samenewme]

If you're not comfortable in your suit, go out somewhere in it. Go to a mall and shop in the upscale stores. Go to dinner (just try not to spill on it). Walk around, get in and out of chairs, but do it all in public. You'll feel more comfortable, look more natural, and feel and look more mature.