Looking at an exam for a DO school

[cabinbuilder]

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Well, because these are all from OMM course, you would not know the answer. I'm going to attempt these but don't quote me.



When describing the carrying angle at the elbow, if it is <100, then it is considered: Has to do with the natural bend in the elbow in anatomical position. It should naturally bend away from the body. Either cubitus valgus or gunstock deformity. I don't remember which way the angles lie.

Which of the following are barriers reached when you initiate the muscle energy treatment and on passive testing of a fully corrected somatic dysfunction. physiologic barrier (vs anatomic)

What is a C2ERSR diagnosis? Type 3

Anthrokinetic techniques use which of the following methods? Counterstrain

What is a Type 1 lesion when diagnosing a rotated lesion in the thoracic spine? Either flexed or extended.

Dude, These are all specific to OMM course. Unless you took the course, you would never know these answers. Dang I don't really remember these either to be honest and I do OMM every day. It has to do with the theory behind why manipulation works.

 

[cabinbuilder]

Im a DO student. Indeed, all of those questions are OMM questions. The more I learn about OMM, the more I dislike it and question its validity. Sometimes I think it distracts us from learning more about contemporary medicine. A large portion of my classmates feel the same way. It is what it is.

You will feel differently when a patient struggles to walk into the office because they slipped on the ice and have been in bed for 2 days and cant' stand up straight. I did OMT on a guy yesterday who fell down the outside stairs and slipped on the ice at the laundry, landing on his back. He walked in hunched over, desperate and walked out standing straight and pain free.

If you learn it correctly, it can be a great tool for you, especially in primary care.

 

[deleted245139]

I'm not trolling. I've heard that DO students spend a little less time in pharm/path in order to have time for OMM. And considering the lower pass rate/scores on USMLE it seems plausibly factual.

with the right prep, a smart student does well on USMLE, DO or MD. The difficulty comes when a DO takes the USMLE then 3-5 days later takes the COMLEX. Imagine taking the USMLE twice in a week. Brutal, right? Now... considering the OP's description of the difference in testing styles, imagine taking two sets of boards, covering similar material, and COMPLETELY different testing styles.

Frankly... I'm blown away by how smart a lot of my classmates are when they crush both.
It's no surprise there is a lower pass rate... If they ever do away with COMLEX and make USMLE standard (my preference/will never happen), I would venture to guess that with everyone prepping for ONE exam, pass rates would be similar.

 

[MedPR]

with the right prep, a smart student does well on USMLE, DO or MD. The difficulty comes when a DO takes the USMLE then 3-5 days later takes the COMLEX. Imagine taking the USMLE twice in a week. Brutal, right? Now... considering the OP's description of the difference in testing styles, imagine taking two sets of boards, covering similar material, and COMPLETELY different testing styles.

Frankly... I'm blown away by how smart a lot of my classmates are when they crush both.
It's no surprise there is a lower pass rate... If they ever do away with COMLEX and make USMLE standard (my preference/will never happen), I would venture to guess that with everyone prepping for ONE exam, pass rates would be similar.

Is there a reason why people take the USMLE after COMLEX?

 

[Night Hawk]

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[deleted245139]

DOs typically take the USMLE first, then take a few days to prep for the OMM material for the COMLEX. The reasoning is that if you have a solid command of the knowledge for USMLE, then all that remains is the OMM component. It's easier said than done though because the tones of the exams are so different.

I won't lie... I'd take the USMLE over the COMLEX any day of the week. Just a better written test IMO

 

[sonofva]

just tell your attendings that every condition you see is a textbook case of 3rd rib dysfunction. all you need to know.

 

[yesno]

bla

 

[MedPR]

DOs typically take the USMLE first, then take a few days to prep for the OMM material for the COMLEX. The reasoning is that if you have a solid command of the knowledge for USMLE, then all that remains is the OMM component. It's easier said than done though because the tones of the exams are so different.

I won't lie... I'd take the USMLE over the COMLEX any day of the week. Just a better written test IMO

Ah my fault, I completely misread your previous post. The fact that they took 2 standardized tests in a week doesn't speak to the lower pass rate and lower scores on USMLE for DO students especially if they take the USMLE first.

 

[shinbeats]

Ah my fault, I completely misread your previous post. The fact that they took 2 standardized tests in a week doesn't speak to the lower pass rate and lower scores on USMLE for DO students especially if they take the USMLE first.

Dude GTFO here and quit trollin

 

[deleted245139]

Ah my fault, I completely misread your previous post. The fact that they took 2 standardized tests in a week doesn't speak to the lower pass rate and lower scores on USMLE for DO students especially if they take the USMLE first.

Im speculating - never asserted otherwise. Since there is no way around taking the COMLEX, if you take the USMLE, you take two tests.

While you prepare for the USMLE, you intermix your OMM material into it making the prep very difficult. I'm not arguing the current lower pass rate... what I AM arguing is that taking two sets of boards is a nightmare and that I would bet money that USMLE pass rate for first time osteopathic takers would be much higher with only one exam to prep for.

Anecdotally: I know SEVERAL people who really only studied for USMLE and said to hell with the COMLEX and not one of them scored below 240. a few were >250. The USMLE isn't harder. It's different.

Lik I said... I'd take the USMLE 10x if it meant I wouldnt have had to take the COMLEX. The USMLE is a better written test, hands down.

 

[docnotsopc]

As a DO student, we learn less Pharm and biochem. Im not sure why so many Do students dont understand this?