Looking for a DO. to shadow - Please Help

[theARCHitekt]

Hi.
Im not an MD nor a DO or am I interested in being one (too much work), I am an architect and love it. However, my fiancee wants to be a DO, she has researched it extensively and has made a decision as to what she wants to be/do - a Pediatric Oncologist, DO. She has volunteerd at Baptist Hospital, and has shadowed MD Pediatric Cardiologists, BUT she needs to find a DO to shadow.
DOES ANYONE KNOW ONE SHE CAN SHADOW...PRETTY PLEASE???

PS. It would have to be in the MIAMI, Fl. Area.

THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE.

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[Buckeye4life]

Have you tried aacom.org?

 

[txkiteboarder]

here is the direct link to find DO in your area by specialities:

http://www.osteopathic.org/directory.cfm

 

[DropkickMurphy]

Pediatric Oncologist who is also a DO

Wow.....that's going to be a steep order to fill.

 

[arsenewenger]

Wow.....that's going to be a steep order to fill.

If u have nothing nice to say, shot the hell up and kill yourself!

 

[txkiteboarder]

Wow.....that's going to be a steep order to fill.

found only 1 person in Texas and non in NJ... you should advise to shadow a family physician; that's what i will be doing...

 

[grinchick5]

here is the direct link to find DO in your area by specialities:

http://www.osteopathic.org/directory.cfm

Argg...beat me to it.

How far are you from Ft. Lauderdale? You might also want to try calling NSU-COM. They might be able to give you some leads.
http://medicine.nova.edu/homepage_ie.html

 

[theARCHitekt]

found only 1 person in Texas and non in NJ... you should advise to shadow a family physician; that's what i will be doing...

Really??? Howcome?

BTW thanks for the reply

 

[CTrainSJU]

Hi.
Im not an MD nor a DO or am I interested in being one (too much work), I am an architect and love it. However, my fiancee wants to be a DO, she has researched it extensively and has made a decision as to what she wants to be/do - a Pediatric Oncologist, DO. She has volunteerd at Baptist Hospital, and has shadowed MD Pediatric Cardiologists, BUT she needs to find a DO to shadow.
DOES ANYONE KNOW ONE SHE CAN SHADOW...PRETTY PLEASE???

PS. It would have to be in the MIAMI, Fl. Area.

THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE.

Just use the phone or search online, that's what I did. To begin with I went to google and typed in Minneapolis DOs. This brought up some seach engines that I could use to find doctors in my area, pretty easy and straightforward. After I had the DO's email or phone number I scheduled shadowing, most were quite helpful. Tell your fiancee to keep an open mind also about what field she wants to be in. I think that knowing what specialty you want to practice before going to med school is like knowing your major before you got to college: a lot of people change.

 

[theARCHitekt]

Argg...beat me to it.

How far are you from Ft. Lauderdale? You might also want to try calling NSU-COM. They might be able to give you some leads.
http://medicine.nova.edu/homepage_ie.html

Well she live in Pinecrest if you're familiar with that area you'll know that its pretty far - though I dont think she'll have much of a problem with driving if thats what she needs to do.

But the leads...arent they usually reserved for thier own students?

 

[DropkickMurphy]

Really??? Howcome?

Because there are fewer DOs than MDs to begin with, and even fewer in peds oncology because of the limited number of training spots and the competitive nature of postgraduate medical education outside of primary care.

 

[grinchick5]

While it might be nice for your to shadow a DO practicing the specialty in which she's interested, it's not really necessary. Schools want prospectives to shadow to get a general idea of what physicians do all day. In addition, DO schools want their students to have some exposure to the "osteopathic philosophy." All your wife needs is some shadowing experience that she can talk about during her interview and she needs to get to know a DO who can write her a good letter of rec.

 

[theARCHitekt]

Just use the phone or search online, that's what I did. To begin with I went to google and typed in Minneapolis DOs. This brought up some seach engines that I could use to find doctors in my area, pretty easy and straightforward. After I had the DO's email or phone number I scheduled shadowing, most were quite helpful. Tell your fiancee to keep an open mind also about what field she wants to be in. I think that knowing what specialty you want to practice before going to med school is like knowing your major before you got to college: a lot of people change.

Wow...thank you for all that...great advice, very helpful. I'll try it.

 

[theARCHitekt]

Because there are fewer DOs than MDs to begin with, and even fewer in peds oncology because of the limited number of training spots and the competitive nature of postgraduate medical education outside of primary care.

Hmmm - understood...Thank you.

 

[S_Talos]

She should shadow the first D.O. that's willing to have her, if they are a specialist it's a bonus. She already knows what she wants to do anyway, as you said and the purpose of shadowing now is to ask for a reference later on.

 

[grinchick5]

Well she live in Pinecrest if you're familiar with that area you'll know that its pretty far - though I dont think she'll have much of a problem with driving if thats what she needs to do.QUOTE]

Sorry not familiar w/ FL geography. How far is pretty far?

But the leads...arent they usually reserved for thier own students?

I wouldn't think so. In my experience, most schools are very open to helping prospective students. IMO, it's worth a try. Worst that happens is that they won't be helpful.

 

[DropkickMurphy]

In addition, DO schools want their students to have some exposure to the "osteopathic philosophy."

Thank you for putting that in quotation marks.

 

[grinchick5]

Thank you for putting that in quotation marks.

I've learned to tread lightly.

 

[DropkickMurphy]

I've learned to tread lightly.

It has less to do with treading lightly and having one's bull**** detector set to a proper level.

 

[spicedmanna]

I've learned to tread lightly.

It has less to do with treading lightly and having one's bull**** detector set to a proper level.

LOL

 

[theARCHitekt]

Well she live in Pinecrest if you're familiar with that area you'll know that its pretty far - though I dont think she'll have much of a problem with driving if thats what she needs to do.QUOTE]

Sorry not familiar w/ FL geography. How far is pretty far?




I wouldn't think so. In my experience, most schools are very open to helping prospective students. IMO, it's worth a try. Worst that happens is that they won't be helpful.

You're absolutely right - by the way...she'll have to drive about 25-30mi.

Also...any other advice?

 

[theARCHitekt]

It has less to do with treading lightly and having one's bull**** detector set to a proper level.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

 

[spicedmanna]

This appears to be a good resource:

http://www.osteopathic.org/YOM/Mentor_exchange.htm

 

[Logical]

Hi.
Im not an MD nor a DO or am I interested in being one (too much work), I am an architect and love it. However, my fiancee wants to be a DO, she has researched it extensively and has made a decision as to what she wants to be/do - a Pediatric Oncologist, DO. She has volunteerd at Baptist Hospital, and has shadowed MD Pediatric Cardiologists, BUT she needs to find a DO to shadow.
DOES ANYONE KNOW ONE SHE CAN SHADOW...PRETTY PLEASE???

PS. It would have to be in the MIAMI, Fl. Area.

THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE.

omg me too. Im in Miami as well any help would be appreciated.

 

[grinchick5]

This appears to be a good resource:

http://www.osteopathic.org/YOM/Mentor_exchange.htm

Wow! That's great!! Thanks!!!

 

[group_theory]

Pediatric Heme/Onc fellowship isn't that competitive and right now pediatrics (residency) isn't too competitive ... and most MD (acgme) programs are DO friendly

Last year (match date May 10, 2006), there were 127 positions for Peds Heme/Onc, with 114 spots filled (13 unfilled).

There were 8 DOs who submited a rank list for peds heme/onc, and 6 matched. There were 93 US MDs who submited a rank list and 77 matched. 5 US IMG sumited a rank list and 5 matched. There were a total of 29 applicants who did not matched.

As for shadowing DOs ... since your financee already shadowed a peds cardiologist, any DO letter will do. Schools want their applicants to know what they are getting into (what is osteopathic medicine? what are some of the myths and misconceptions? what are the realities?). It is also your time to ask him/her (the DO) about any career biased, prejudices, challenges, etc.

Nova Southeastern University in Ft Lauderdale/Davies has an osteopathic school. You can try contacting either the Office of Admission or Office of Alumni Relations and ask if they have any advice on how to find an alumnus/alumna willing to let your financee shadow and ask questions. There are several osteopathic residencies in Florida in which you may inquire to see if you can shadow either an attending or resident.

NOVA Office of Admission - 954-262-1101
NOVA Office of Alumni Relations - 954-262-1029
NSU/Miami Childrens Hospital Pediatric Osteopathic Residency Program - 305-666-6511
Columbia Hospital/Palms West Hospital Pediatric Osteopathic Residency Program - 561-784-3127


Source: NRMP website at http://www.nrmp.org
http://opportunities.osteopathic.org

 

[Taus]

Pediatric Heme/Onc fellowship isn't that competitive and right now pediatrics (residency) isn't too competitive ... and most MD (acgme) programs are DO friendly

Last year (match date May 10, 2006), there were 127 positions for Peds Heme/Onc, with 114 spots filled (13 unfilled).

There were 8 DOs who submited a rank list for peds heme/onc, and 6 matched. There were 93 US MDs who submited a rank list and 77 matched. 5 US IMG sumited a rank list and 5 matched. There were a total of 29 applicants who did not matched.

As for shadowing DOs ... since your financee already shadowed a peds cardiologist, any DO letter will do. Schools want their applicants to know what they are getting into (what is osteopathic medicine? what are some of the myths and misconceptions? what are the realities?). It is also your time to ask him/her (the DO) about any career biased, prejudices, challenges, etc.

Nova Southeastern University in Ft Lauderdale/Davies has an osteopathic school. You can try contacting either the Office of Admission or Office of Alumni Relations and ask if they have any advice on how to find an alumnus/alumna willing to let your financee shadow and ask questions. There are several osteopathic residencies in Florida in which you may inquire to see if you can shadow either an attending or resident.

NOVA Office of Admission - 954-262-1101
NOVA Office of Alumni Relations - 954-262-1029
NSU/Miami Childrens Hospital Pediatric Osteopathic Residency Program - 305-666-6511
Columbia Hospital/Palms West Hospital Pediatric Osteopathic Residency Program - 561-784-3127


Source: NRMP website at http://www.nrmp.org
http://opportunities.osteopathic.org

well it doesn't get much more helpful then that.....

 

[txkiteboarder]

i will calling few people up this week to shadow:

have few questions...
1. would it be more beneficial to shadow a family practice DO?
2. what are you suppose to do, while you shadow?
3. how long? I am thinking of going, every other week for next 3-4 months...

 

[grinchick5]

i will calling few people up this week to shadow:

have few questions...
1. would it be more beneficial to shadow a family practice DO?
2. what are you suppose to do, while you shadow?
3. how long? I am thinking of going, every other week for next 3-4 months...

1. DOs are few and far between. Shadow the 1st one that says yes.
2. In my experience, you stand there and watch. The patients have to agree to allow you to sit in on their visit and the majority do. Most docs are happy to answer questions about what's going on (b/c I guarantee you'll have no clue), just ask them when they're not busy. Maybe you can take a notebook with you so you can write down questions and wait for an appropriate time to ask. Be aware that your doc might kick you out of the room while performing embarrassing procedures (this happened to me all the time...she wouldn't even let the med students watch).
3.Long enough so the doc knows you well enough to write a solid letter of rec and you have a few interesting things to talk about in your interviews.

Luck