Looking for some advice regarding MSAR and oos acceptance

[UNCGrunner]

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Hello everyone,
I'm wondering what your opinions about MSARs information regarding acceptance to oos medical schools are? I'm curious mostly because it seems to me that the general trend for applying oos is applying to a private institution versus a public based on in state preference. What confuses me is that with what seems to be a large majority of oos applicants applying to private schools would your chances still be about the same for some public schools? Even though some public schools take in less oss applicants you might be dealing with less competition from other applicants is what I'm wondering.
I'm applying this cycle and I've been somewhat confused with determining which oos schools I might have the best shot at. As I mentioned, I've been going through MSAR info and trying to sort out which schools seem to be more oos friendlty; and I'm not sure how much I should rely on MSAR's data for applicant data and where to apply.
Just a little background, I'm an NC resident so I'm definitely going to apply to those in state schools and my cgpa is 3.8, I also averaged about 30 on AAMC practice tests so I'm hoping for my average or better when the scores are released (sat for June 13th MCAT).

Thanks and I appreciate any advice!

 

[claduva94]

Problem is that even if there is "less competition" there are so few spots. The Texas schools really demonstrate that. You have to be well above average to be considered there OOS.

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/careers/students/gradstudy/health/guide/part2/appendix

That chart numerically displays favorability of OOS applications. You should find ones that are favorable and then see if your scores are competitive.

 

[talinnlove]

This is a good data dump as well for IS/OOS stats:

https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/2013factstable1.pdf

You can get a rough idea of the odds by looking at the percentage of OOS matriculants, and also by comparing that to the size of the OOS applicant pool.

 

[allantois]

I would be wary if I saw that there are 2000 OOS applicants for 10 seats. Not to discourage you or anything like that but the OOS students at the med school of my university (public school, ~ 10 OOS students a year) have something extremely extraordinary about them (PhD from Columbia, JD from Yale, BS from Princeton, etc). I think that private schools are your best bet or public ones that admit a good amount of OOS students.

 

[baxt1412]

Problem is that even if there is "less competition" there are so few spots. The Texas schools really demonstrate that. You have to be well above average to be considered there OOS.

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/careers/students/gradstudy/health/guide/part2/appendix

That chart numerically displays favorability of OOS applications. You should find ones that are favorable and then see if your scores are competitive.

thanks for that link

 

[UNCGrunner]

To reply to claduva, I found that many public schools I was looking at actually had around 30 spots or so that were filling with oos students where maybe 2,000 had applied for and maybe 100 interviewed. On the other hand, frequently the private schools I've been searching might accept 80 of those who are 00s, but 7,000 may have applied and 150 were interviewed. It just seems a little ambigous to me, like each oos school gets so many applicants and figuring out where an applicant might have a good chance seems like a shot in the dark, I guess I'm just a little overwhelmed at deciding where to apply :/

 

[baxt1412]

start IS. then use MSAR to get best guest for OOS.

make a few excel sheets that rank schools based on % of OOS apps given interviews, % OOS apps matriculating, etc. then you just gotta pull the trigger. just make sure you're applying intelligently with regards to your GPA and your MCAT. tailor your secondaries to their mission statements, etc

 

[claduva94]

To reply to claduva, I found that many public schools I was looking at actually had around 30 spots or so that were filling with oos students where maybe 2,000 had applied for and maybe 100 interviewed. On the other hand, frequently the private schools I've been searching might accept 80 of those who are 00s, but 7,000 may have applied and 150 were interviewed. It just seems a little ambigous to me, like each oos school gets so many applicants and figuring out where an applicant might have a good chance seems like a shot in the dark, I guess I'm just a little overwhelmed at deciding where to apply :/

Its definitely complicated. Your best chance is also much better in private schools. However, here are some OOS schools to look at. Keep in mind that MSAR list matriculation and not acceptance. For some schools, 5ish times the amount of matriculants.
University of Vermont
Virginia Schools
U of Illinois
U of Indiana
If you PM me I can try to help out more!

 

[blueharbor]

Hello everyone,
I'm wondering what your opinions about MSARs information regarding acceptance to oos medical schools are? I'm curious mostly because it seems to me that the general trend for applying oos is applying to a private institution versus a public based on in state preference. What confuses me is that with what seems to be a large majority of oos applicants applying to private schools would your chances still be about the same for some public schools? Even though some public schools take in less oss applicants you might be dealing with less competition from other applicants is what I'm wondering.
I'm applying this cycle and I've been somewhat confused with determining which oos schools I might have the best shot at. As I mentioned, I've been going through MSAR info and trying to sort out which schools seem to be more oos friendlty; and I'm not sure how much I should rely on MSAR's data for applicant data and where to apply.
Just a little background, I'm an NC resident so I'm definitely going to apply to those in state schools and my cgpa is 3.8, I also averaged about 30 on AAMC practice tests so I'm hoping for my average or better when the scores are released (sat for June 13th MCAT).

Thanks and I appreciate any advice!

Get US News. Then you'll know exactly what percentage of OOS applicants were accepted, rather than just interviewed or matriculated. You'd be surprised at the actual percentages - it's often quite different from conventional wisdom on SDN. Keep in mind that for some state schools, a high percentage can be skewed by a preferance for students from neighboring states, as is the case with Colorado and Washington.

 

[karayaa]

Keep in mind that for some state schools, a high percentage can be skewed by a preferance for students from neighboring states, as is the case with Colorado and Washington.

Is this true for Wake Forest as well?

 

[gyngyn]

Get US News. Then you'll know exactly what percentage of OOS applicants were accepted, rather than just interviewed or matriculated. You'd be surprised at the actual percentages - it's often quite different from conventional wisdom on SDN. Keep in mind that for some state schools, a high percentage can be skewed by a preferance for students from neighboring states, as is the case with Colorado and Washington.

Until we one knows the stats (or the strength of personal characteristics/accomplishments) of IS vs OOS we still cannot deduce what really goes into school preferences.