Looks like Jenny McCarthy has to find a new field of work

[J1515]

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/02/lancet.retraction.autism/index.html

"<Wakefield> released this statement through a representative: "The allegations against me and against my colleagues are both unfounded and unjust and I invite anyone to examine the contents of these proceedings and come to their own conclusion. In fact, the Lancet paper does not claim to confirm a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Research into that possible connection is still going on."

No it's not jack@$$. It's already been disproven.

 

[Hoody]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/02/lancet.retraction.autism/index.html

"<Wakefield> released this statement through a representative: "The allegations against me and against my colleagues are both unfounded and unjust and I invite anyone to examine the contents of these proceedings and come to their own conclusion. In fact, the Lancet paper does not claim to confirm a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Research into that possible connection is still going on."

No it's not jack@$$. It's already been disproven.

This is funny. We are talking about celebrities using their fame to push certain causes in the 2014 thread. This is a perfect example of why I hate it. Yeah, these people are "role models" and yeah, they have the ability to reach people but the problem is, most celebrities act without thinking and they have the ability to influence millions of lemmings. Jenny MaCarthy should have thought harder about spreading anti vaccine propaganda without knowing if it was actually true or not.

If I were a vaccine company, I would sue the hell out of her. big time.

 

[dr zaius]

I wonder what kind of detriment she's caused to child mortality.

 

[J1515]

This is funny. We are talking about celebrities using their fame to push certain causes in the 2014 thread. This is a perfect example of why I hate it. Yeah, these people are "role models" and yeah, they have the ability to reach people but the problem is, most celebrities act without thinking and they have the ability to influence millions of lemmings. Jenny MaCarthy should have thought harder about spreading anti vaccine propaganda without knowing if it was actually true or not.

It speaks volumes about how stupid our population is that people would listen to an actor/actress/playboy model before they listen to a doctor. I'm not so much worried about what happens to her or the idiotic parents who continue to insist that vaccines caused their child's autism. I'm more concerned that there are future doctors on this forum who believe it.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Whoa guys, calm down ... I'm sure she's read like 3 wikipedia pages about it, and maybe even WebMD a few times. I'd definitely listen to Jenny McCarthy!!!!!




Seriously, she's not cool. Thinking about a child not getting vaccines because of her own fear mongering and search for something to blame is just plain dangerous.

 

[mmmcdowe]

I wonder what kind of detriment she's caused to child mortality.

Absolutely. Parents who won't vaccinate their children should not be allowed to send their children to public school. It decreases herd immunity, increases the chance of children being colonized, and ultimately could cause a nasty outbreak in an at risk population. One of these days, we are going to get stupid enough to allow an epidemic to needlessly wipe out a few million people.

 

[Charles_Carmichael]

I wonder what kind of detriment she's caused to child mortality.

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html

They say she might be indirectly responsible for at least some of these.

53934 preventable illnesses and 483 preventable deaths between June 3, 2007 and January 23, 2010.

 

[Hoody]

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html

They say she might be indirectly responsible for at least some of these.

53934 preventable illnesses and 483 preventable deaths between June 3, 2007 and January 23, 2010.

awesomezzz!

👍👍

 

[metalgearHMN]

awesomezzz!

👍👍

Deaths and preventable disease are awesome? 😛

 

[TDX]

Whoa guys, calm down ... I'm sure she's read like 3 wikipedia pages about it, and maybe even WebMD a few times. I'd definitely listen to Jenny McCarthy!!!!!



Seriously, she's not cool. Thinking about a child not getting vaccines because of her own fear mongering and search for something to blame is just plain dangerous.

Actually, by now she's probably read more about the issue than most doctors.

The problem is that she, and those like her, lack the scientific background to interpret correctly what they are reading. Worse yet, they started reading about the issue with their minds already made up, unwilling to accept any arguments against their position.

I've wasted far more time than I would like to admit debating the anti-vaccine crowd. Many of them have an almost encyclopedic knowledge of relevant literature - as well as no idea of what it all actually means.

That's what makes them such a threat to the general public: most people have no idea either, and will simply follow others if those others are able to rattle off long lists of studies - even if those studies actually have conclusions that are radically different from the claims they're being used to support.

 

[schrizto]

Actually, by now she's probably read more about the issue than most doctors.

The problem is that she, and those like her, lack the scientific background to interpret correctly what they are reading. Worse yet, they started reading about the issue with their minds already made up, unwilling to accept any arguments against their position.

I've wasted far more time than I would like to admit debating the anti-vaccine crowd. Many of them have an almost encyclopedic knowledge of relevant literature - as well as no idea of what it all actually means.

That's what makes them such a threat to the general public: most people have no idea either, and will simply follow others if those others are able to rattle off long lists of studies - even if those studies actually have conclusions that are radically different from the claims they're being used to support.

Jenny McCarthy may have "read" more about the issue but it would definitely not have been the original scientific papers on the subject that a medical or science professional would read. If you read articles on science other then the ones in scientific journals (which is what most people do), they are usually dumbed down and sometimes they summarize the original article in a way that the conclusions drawn differ from the original source. For example, a paper may note a correlation but be careful not to jump to any conclusions, while the mass media thinks that correlation alone is newsworthy and will not hesitate to project that statistic into every household.

 

[TDX]

Jenny McCarthy may have "read" more about the issue but it would definitely not have been the original scientific papers on the subject that a medical or science professional would read. If you read articles on science other then the ones in scientific journals (which is what most people do), they are usually dumbed down and sometimes they summarize the original article in a way that the conclusions drawn differ from the original source. For example, a paper may note a correlation but be careful not to jump to any conclusions, while the mass media thinks that correlation alone is newsworthy and will not hesitate to project that statistic into every household.

Chances are that they actually were the original scientific papers.

The journal articles may not be dumbed down, but they are very easily misunderstood by idiots.

I remember one discussion with an anti-vaccination nut who kept quoting an article on mercury concentrations in the brains and blood of rhesus monkeys that had been exposed to either methylmercury or ethylmercury (the latter is found in some vaccines) in similar amounts.

He kept going on about how the brain-to-blood ratio of mercury concentration was higher in the monkeys exposed to ethylmercury than in those exposed to methylmercury. Which was true, but left out one little thing: absolute concentrations in both brain and blood were far, far higher in the monkeys exposed to methylmercury than they were in those exposed to ethylmercury.

So the guy did the reading. He just happened to be scientifically and mathematically illiterate, resulting in him completely misunderstanding what he was reading.

I'm pretty sure that's the case with Jenny McCarthy as well. It's not that she doesn't try, it's just that she's an idiot.

 

[TheDuder]

Nice to see that everyone here seems to be on the same page. 👍
The anti-vaxers are uneducable.

 

[Geekchick921]

I can understand a modified vaccine schedule to stagger how many shots your kid gets at any one visit (my daughter got a lot of sticks at her 1 year appointment and I wish I'd had brought her back for some of them a week or two later), but not vaccinating at all for fear of autism is just so deeply stupid I can't get over it.

Even if there WAS a link between the shot and autism, I'd still go for the shot. I'd rather risk my child being autistic than risk them being crippled or dead.

 

[MadMnkey]

I can understand a modified vaccine schedule to stagger how many shots your kid gets at any one visit (my daughter got a lot of sticks at her 1 year appointment and I wish I'd had brought her back for some of them a week or two later), but not vaccinating at all for fear of autism is just so deeply stupid I can't get over it.

Even if there WAS a link between the shot and autism, I'd still go for the shot. I'd rather risk my child being autistic than risk them being crippled or dead.

Completely agree. People who don't have an understanding of science just need to stay out of it. I don't go around telling people like Jenny McCarthy how to be.....more loud and obnoxious? Or whatever the heck she does.