Losing IS status?

[futureapppsy2]

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My friend (no, really) did her undergrad in California as a state resident. About half way through undergrad, her mother and stepfather moved to another state, one without a vet school. I'm assuming she kept her IS status in California throughout her undergrad (?). Due to a major death in the family 🙁, she didn't end up applying this year and is looking at a MS in Animal Science as a gap year/GPA boost at a school in the state her mother and stepfather now live in. The issue is that she would then loose her IS status in a "vet school state."

Is this enough to give someone pause about potentially giving up IS state status? Or is a cost-effective (cheap IS tuition for the MS), solid "gap year" plan a "better" boost in long run?

Just curious, as I know very little about the finer points of vet school admissions.

Thanks!

 

[dgm]

My friend (no, really) did her undergrad in California as a state resident. About half way through undergrad, her mother and stepfather moved to another state, one without a vet school. I'm assuming she kept her IS status in California throughout her undergrad (?). Due to a major death in the family 🙁, she didn't end up applying this year and is looking at a MS in Animal Science as a gap year/GPA boost at a school in the state her mother and stepfather now live in. The issue is that she would then loose her IS status in a "vet school state."

Is this enough to give someone pause about potentially giving up IS state status? Or is a cost-effective (cheap IS tuition for the MS), solid "gap year" plan a "better" boost in long run?

Just curious, as I know very little about the finer points of vet school admissions.

Thanks!

Odds are pretty good she lost her CA residency when her parents moved to a different state, whether or not the university caught on... I'd think twice about doing something with my gap year that would cost me my in-state status at the school of my choice, but I'm guessing that is a moot point already.

Edit: Actually, I take that back - it's not moot, because if she stays in CA for her gap year, she'd regain her status as a CA resident, if she has in fact lost it.

 

[twelvetigers]

California is pretty weird in that they will consider you a resident because you went to hgh school there. Maybe that would apply in this case? Not sure the details since I'm not from anywhere near Cali.

 

[Highlsnds3]

Cali likes to keep its residents so they can pay taxes, from what I understand. When I was in the Navy there, people getting out of the military were advised that they had 9 months to move out of Cali or they would be considered CA. residents and end up having to pay state taxes for years to come, even if they moved out of state. Now this could have all just been a ploy to scare people into staying in the military a little longer, or it could be true😉

 

[Minnerbelle]

If she's under 24, then I'm pretty positive she lost her residency when her parents moved out. As for finishing high school in cali, that qualifies you for in-state tuition, but i'm not sure it qualifies you to apply IS for admission purposes. I've called davis multiple times about that, and they just couldn't give me an answer. Admissions keeps telling me they can't answer that so i need to talk to the residency deputy, so i call the residency deputy and they tell me they only care about tuition and they have no idea so I need to call Admissions. le sigh.

If she's going to be 24 by the time she matriculates, however, where she resides = her residency. So maybe if that means she needs to take 2 years off, it might be worth it.

 

[sumstorm]

I looked at half a dozen sites and it does NOT seem like parent relocation would end residency, assuming she is a legal adult (18+yo). However, moving for a year of education might. I personally wouldn't relocate to a state where I didn't have residency....and/or risk putting myself in a no-man's land of residency (not a resident in the new state because you are pursueing education, not a resident if former state because your primary interests don't lie there) but that is a personal decision. I am sure there are excellent programs for MS in CA as well.

Here is link to CA residency:

http://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/06_forms/06_1031.pdf

 

[Minnerbelle]

I looked at half a dozen sites and it does NOT seem like parent relocation would end residency, assuming she is a legal adult (18+yo). However, moving for a year of education might. I personally wouldn't relocate to a state where I didn't have residency....and/or risk putting myself in a no-man's land of residency (not a resident in the new state because you are pursueing education, not a resident if former state because your primary interests don't lie there) but that is a personal decision. I am sure there are excellent programs for MS in CA as well.

Here is link to CA residency:

http://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/06_forms/06_1031.pdf

hmm... as far as I understand it, being considered a state resident for tuition purposes for the UC system is a little different from establishing CA residency to get something like a state ID

Here's the UC Davis site about establishing residency for tuition purposes:

http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/UCDWEBCATALOG/appendix/residency.html

Excerpt:

If your parents do not meet the University's requirements for residence for tuition purposes, you are required to be financially independent in order to be a resident for tuition purposes...

...You will be considered “financially independent” if one or more of the following applies: (1) you are at least 24 years of age by December 31 of the calendar year for which you are requesting resident classification; (2) you are a veteran of the U.S. Armed Forces; (3) you are a ward of the court or both parents are deceased; (4) you have children or other legal dependents other than a spouse or registered domestic partner; (5) you are married or in a registered domestic partnership, or a graduate student or a professional student, and you were not claimed as an income tax deduction by your parents or any other individual for the tax year immediately preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification; or (6) you are a single undergraduate student and you were not claimed as an income tax deduction by your parents or any other individual for the two tax years immediately preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification, and you can demonstrate self-sufficiency for those years and the current year. Note: Graduate or professional school students who are employed at UC Davis 49% or more (or awarded the equivalent in University-administered funds; e.g., fellowships, grants, stipends) during the term for which classification as a resident is requested are exempt from the financial independence requirement.

 

[VAgirl]

hmm... as far as I understand it, being considered a state resident for tuition purposes for the UC system is a little different from establishing CA residency to get something like a state ID

Here's the UC Davis site about establishing residency for tuition purposes:

http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/UCDWEBCATALOG/appendix/residency.html

Excerpt:

If your parents do not meet the University's requirements for residence for tuition purposes, you are required to be financially independent in order to be a resident for tuition purposes...

...You will be considered “financially independent” if one or more of the following applies: (1) you are at least 24 years of age by December 31 of the calendar year for which you are requesting resident classification; (2) you are a veteran of the U.S. Armed Forces; (3) you are a ward of the court or both parents are deceased; (4) you have children or other legal dependents other than a spouse or registered domestic partner; (5) you are married or in a registered domestic partnership, or a graduate student or a professional student, and you were not claimed as an income tax deduction by your parents or any other individual for the tax year immediately preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification; or (6) you are a single undergraduate student and you were not claimed as an income tax deduction by your parents or any other individual for the two tax years immediately preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification, and you can demonstrate self-sufficiency for those years and the current year. Note: Graduate or professional school students who are employed at UC Davis 49% or more (or awarded the equivalent in University-administered funds; e.g., fellowships, grants, stipends) during the term for which classification as a resident is requested are exempt from the financial independence requirement.

Pretty sure you're automatically considered financially independent when you're in grad/prof school...

 

[nyanko]

Pretty sure you're automatically considered financially independent when you're in grad/prof school...

Unless your parents still claim you on their taxes.

(5) you are married or in a registered domestic partnership, or a graduate student or a professional student, and you were not claimed as an income tax deduction by your parents or any other individual for the tax year immediately preceding the term for which you are requesting resident classification;

You're independent by FAFSA standards when in grad school, but not necessarily for residence purposes unless your parents don't claim you.