losing MD

[CameronFrye]

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Yes it was. I wouldn't have been able to share any details except for the fact so much was reported in our local newspaper and even nationally. This all happened in 2002 if I recall correctly.

Yeah, it was Bloomfield's "How things work" class (he now has some sort of tv show on the Discovery channel). They nailed quite a few students, but some did get away with it. (UVA has a single sanction honor system: if you're found guilty of lying, cheating, or stealing, you're expelled).

 

[Blade28]

Perhaps. But folks should be careful. Nothing makes a professional look more stupid than an inability to spell. You can be the smartest doctor -- "the" expert in your field, but if you cannot spell basic things like ridicuous or mnemonic, even the slowest med student is going to think you are a bit dim. You quickly get a reputation.

I totally agree.

I realize this is the Internet, and SDN is a public message forum, so hasty responses and mistakes are common - but many people here appear very unprofessional when using their "text messaging style" of typing.

 

[Gut Shot]

2) Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary: sarcasm-a sharp and often satirical utterance designed to cut (well, maybe it was weak).

It was. Your attempt at a sharp and satirical utterance sounded indistinguishable from some of the honestly assinine opinions that drift around here.

 

[swoop]

Somewhat on topic.....say someone went through school cheated but got the MD. Matched completed residency and get board certified. Later is found out they cheated and Medical Degree is revoked. Does the license get revoked too? Or can that person still practice without a degree, but with a license. To spice it up even, pretend they are on clinical faculty where they did residency.

 

[Blade28]

If your MD degree gets revoked, I'm guessing your medical license would be in jeopardy.

 

[MattD]

Pathology does suck at times. Sorry to disappoint, but your own thread won't be forthcoming.

Pretty please?

 

[Gut Shot]

Pretty please?

Sorry, you're only shot in the near term would be to abandon your current account and start a new one. I'm sure you could push your creative envelope with "MattD2" or "MattE." Anyways, after building a catalog of a few hundred non-trollish posts, you could lay into pathology... hopefully with some more feeling than this piss-poor attempt.

Perhaps then you could fool someone and earn the coveted "Hey guys, look at this *****!" thread. I say go for it... but I'm going to be watching.

 

[Jwax]

Exactly. Probably because as a professional, the content of any written message you give will not be understandable by all (you're the expert), but most people can find simple grammatical and spelling errors.

And to get this thread back on track, so far the path guys have been consistently our best teachers, so they can't all have bad people skills.

To get back off track... 😉 .... my trick is to use simpler / smaller words when I have a nice "big" word to use that I can't remember how to spell properly. I may look like I have a smaller vocabulary, but I at least avoid looking dumb (at least in that respect). Also - I plan on hiding any spelling errors with bad handwritting. It'll be a stupidity cover-up.

To go back on topic... If I got arrested during medical school for something that I get probation for, would I get booted from school? I.e. drug or alcohol related charges? I know that you get a background check prior to acceptence, but once you're in is there anything the school can do? Can you still get a license to practice if you've got alcohol or drug charges on your record?

Not that this is in any way applicable to me, as I have never done even drank any alcohol. Ever. Especially not after test block... 😉

 

[deleted29780]

Is there anyway a school can take away an MD after graduation? How could a license board take a license away? Would this be national, or by state? I once saw a documentary about a twisted doctor being shunted state to state until he eventually had to practice in Africa.

bump, yeah right. We are so dumb in Africa we can allow an incompetent medic to practice here. Definitely not in my country...and for the narrow minded ones out there, africa is not a country. bump 👎

 

[howelljolly]

Interesting.

So, my not being able to spell has derailed this entire thread, and I apparently I shouldnt be in med school since I can't spell.

However, folks that insult pathologists, and in doing so show that they dont really know how medicine is practiced, should be in medical school.

Thats messed up.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Interesting.

So, my not being able to spell has derailed this entire thread, and I apparently I shouldnt be in med school since I can't spell.

However, folks that insult pathologists, and in doing so show that they dont really know how medicine is practiced, should be in medical school.

Thats messed up.

Lol, I guess everyone was bored. Hey, some people can spell and some can't (I'm more in the latter) -- it doesn't mean anything. Just use your spell check and hope for the best. Judging from some of the syllabi and handouts I've gotten at school, I can tell there are lots of docs out there who aren't too hot in the spelling/grammar/typing department.

So getting sort of back on topic, what can you do if you lose your license? Well aside from being a pathologist. 🙄

 

[clarkbar]

The only cases I've heard of where an institution revoked an awarded degree involved evidence of identity theft -- ie someone attended and graduated med school on made up credentials or under someone else's name. Doesn't happen much and there are tons of safeguards to prevent it. It's why the MCAT and USMLE require photo IDs. It's also why some standardized tests (eg bar exams in law) require fingerprinting these days.

Licenses however can be revoked for lots of reasons, ranging from criminal activity, extreme cases of repeated malpractice, fraud, repeated failure to pass license maintenance exams, etc.

you mean someone actually went to med school under a false name? Wow

 

[Tired]

We are so dumb in Africa we can allow an incompetent medic to practice here.

Look, I found my new sig!

 

[doc02]

Damn It!

 

[Law2Doc]

What if someone just committed fraud during the admissions process, but no other problems? This person already graduated.

If the fraud was significant, you would most likely lose your license. But certainly if you weren't who/what you claimed to be, a degree conferring institution has the right to yank their degree back.

 

[degoo_]

hanibal lecter still signs his letters with MD, so its unlikely they'll take it away.

 

[Law2Doc]

hanibal lecter still signs his letters with MD, so its unlikely they'll take it away.

Fictional med schools have different rules for their fictional graduates.

 

[PeepshowJohnny]

Fictional med schools have different rules for their fictional graduates.

Hence why Dr. Nick still gets to practice.

 

[gotmeds?]

Perhaps. But folks should be careful. Nothing makes a professional look more stupid than an inability to spell. You can be the smartest doctor -- "the" expert in your field, but if you cannot spell basic things like ridicuous or mnemonic, even the slowest med student is going to think you are a bit dim. You quickly get a reputation. In my prior career, on more than one instance I heard secretaries broadcasting to others about how they have to fix every piece of correspondence written by XYZ attorney. It's hard for such a person not to get a bad workplace rep amongst his peers in such case. You don't want this.

On the other hand, people get away with misusing "principal" and "principle" all the time. I've met a few Principle Investigators. Even one that had it on a business card.

 

[deleted77919]

On the other hand, people get away with misusing "principal" and "principle" all the time. I've met a few Principle Investigators. Even one that had it on a business card.

Maybe he had a philosophical bent and investigates "principles" of the natural world, etc.

 

[TRAMD]

Here is a crazy Idea. Think about crazy inacurate things before you say them.
"Not sure about the accuracy nor of the process."

Why would a residency program take a doctor who "can't practice medicine"?
To be a pathologist you have to be licensed to practice medicine.. .
The practice of medicine has to do with a state licensing you to practice medicine (not just IM vs pathology, radiology or anything else)

And before you say well I said no offense to pathologists,
I say this. "No offense to medical students but some of them don't know what the hell they are talking about"
See you aren't offended, cause I said no offense... 🙄

Pathologist aren't all anti-social trolls, just me.

Pathologists are awesome. I don't know why more people don't try to go into path . . . why didn't I go into path? Great hours, good pay and some of the sharpest docs in the hospital.

 

[deleted77919]

I don't know why more people don't try to go into path . . . why didn't I go into path? Great hours, good pay and some of the sharpest docs in the hospital.

1) The pathology job market appears to be pretty soft. If you wander over to the path forums, it appears there are jobs to be had, you just don't get a lot of say in where those jobs are. 2) If you want to do a fellowship, some actually fill years in advance, so going into dermpath, neuropath, etc isn't very easy.

 

[TRAMD]

1) The pathology job market appears to be pretty soft. If you wander over to the path forums, it appears there are jobs to be had, you just don't get a lot of say in where those jobs are. 2) If you want to do a fellowship, some actually fill years in advance, so going into dermpath, neuropath, etc isn't very easy.

See my parade? See how it is ruined by the rain?

 

[clarkbar]

hard to believe

If the fraud was significant, you would most likely lose your license. But certainly if you weren't who/what you claimed to be, a degree conferring institution has the right to yank their degree back.

 

[MattD]

Sorry, you're only shot in the near term would be to abandon your current account and start a new one. I'm sure you could push your creative envelope with "MattD2" or "MattE." Anyways, after building a catalog of a few hundred non-trollish posts, you could lay into pathology... hopefully with some more feeling than this piss-poor attempt.

Perhaps then you could fool someone and earn the coveted "Hey guys, look at this *****!" thread. I say go for it... but I'm going to be watching.

Actually, I may go with Matt_D, perhaps the symbol character will throw you off...

It's too bad path has been one of the coolest classes so far in MS, it makes it tough to maintain that 'Pathology Sucks' mindset. Luckily, it takes more than mere evidence to change my pre-formed opinions!