Loupes for oral surgery?

[pleaseomfs]

Hi,

I am currently working as a general dentist and will be applying for oral surgery this year. My loupes broke, and I need to purchase a new pair. Since I am still practicing as a general dentist and considering the possibility that I may not match, I want to buy loupes that will be versatile for both my current practice and potential future needs.

I was looking into Ergo loupes, but I’m concerned that they might not be suitable for use in oral surgery.

I’d appreciate any input you may have.

Thank you!

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[D1Bound]

Hi,

I am currently working as a general dentist and will be applying for oral surgery this year. My loupes broke, and I need to purchase a new pair. Since I am still practicing as a general dentist and considering the possibility that I may not match, I want to buy loupes that will be versatile for both my current practice and potential future needs.

I was looking into Ergo loupes, but I’m concerned that they might not be suitable for use in oral surgery.

I’d appreciate any input you may have.

Thank you!

I use ergo for extractions. Someone posted on these forums they do orthognathic surgery through ergo loupes!

 

[mangler]

Also interested in hearing people's experiences with ergo loupes for OMFS. Which brand/magnification is good to get?

 

[ozzyomfs]

Not sure of brand but my 2 cents is to get lowest possible magnification which i understand is 3x as the field of vision overall is limited.
Unless you want to only do nerve repairs 🙂

 

[unsatisfiedomfs]

One of our attendings clowns the residents that wear loupes. I would say getting something no higher than 2.5x is key especially for extraction cases

 

[SilkyJ]

Don’t bother with loupes, get a good headlight. I don’t know a single oral surgeon who uses for anything other than micro or nerve repair. I don’t for the life of me understand why you’d use loupes for an extraction

 

[mangler]

Don’t bother with loupes, get a good headlight. I don’t know a single oral surgeon who uses for anything other than micro or nerve repair. I don’t for the life of me understand why you’d use loupes for an extraction

Declination angle and not having to bend your neck as much can add years to your career. Same reason why dentists use loupes 🤷‍♂️

 

[D1Bound]

Don’t bother with loupes, get a good headlight. I don’t know a single oral surgeon who uses for anything other than micro or nerve repair. I don’t for the life of me understand why you’d use loupes for an extraction

Ergo loupes help me sit back and stay up right. I wouldn't do extractions any other way.

 

[somefuturedoc]

Ergo loupes help me sit back and stay up right. I wouldn't do extractions any other way.

Sitting for extractions? Sounds like a perio move

 

[D1Bound]

Sitting for extractions? Sounds like a perio move

A surgeon I know sat for his whole career. Not the norm. Once people go into residency they never are allowed to sit, and so they continue to stand their whole career. I’ve done both. Sitting for me is preferred. Talk like this only continues to stereotype OMS as jackwagons.

 

[TanMan]

A surgeon I know sat for his whole career. Not the norm. Once people go into residency they never are allowed to sit, and so they continue to stand their whole career. I’ve done both. Sitting for me is preferred. Talk like this only continues to stereotype OMS as jackwagons.

I've only seen one person sit for extractions and that was a perio. Do you find that you can work faster sitting down or does speed take a hit when sitting down?

 

[D1Bound]

I've only seen one person sit for extractions and that was a perio. Do you find that you can work faster sitting down or does speed take a hit when sitting down?

Disclaimer: I’m a resident and still learning. I haven’t found sitting down to affect my speed at all. When digging for posterior root tips or starting a flap on max third molar (16) the mirror comes out and I sit at 12 o’clock. Though, there have been times where I find standing offers a touch more control and force. I also like switching sides especially for 16. I always use loupes. The more reps someone gets and the more predictable they can execute the extraction, I think they can focus on ergo

 

[Jaa_]

Disclaimer: I’m a resident and still learning. I haven’t found sitting down to affect my speed at all. When digging for posterior root tips or starting a flap on max third molar (16) the mirror comes out and I sit at 12 o’clock. Though, there have been times where I find standing offers a touch more control and force. I also like switching sides especially for 16. I always use loupes. The more reps someone gets and the more predictable they can execute the extraction, I think they can focus on ergo

bro didnt u say youre starting residency in july?

 

[somefuturedoc]

A surgeon I know sat for his whole career. Not the norm. Once people go into residency they never are allowed to sit, and so they continue to stand their whole career. I’ve done both. Sitting for me is preferred. Talk like this only continues to stereotype OMS as jackwagons.

Disclaimer: I’m a resident and still learning. I haven’t found sitting down to affect my speed at all. When digging for posterior root tips or starting a flap on max third molar (16) the mirror comes out and I sit at 12 o’clock. Though, there have been times where I find standing offers a touch more control and force. I also like switching sides especially for 16. I always use loupes. The more reps someone gets and the more predictable they can execute the extraction, I think they can focus on ergo

The reason these techniques aren’t taught in residency is because they’re not necessary to do thirds efficiently and well, which sets us apart from perio. You will see the light when you start residency

 

[D1Bound]

The reason these techniques aren’t taught in residency is because they’re not necessary to do thirds efficiently and well, which sets us apart from perio. You will see the light when you start residency

I’ve never seen a residency teach sitting. I have seen a program teach their residents to switch sides.

 

[dratc]

I’m finishing residency next Month…3 of the 6 docs I interviewed with sit, and one of my attendings sits. They claim it significantly helps their backs. Probably a personal thing. I plan on continuing to stand… and use loupes.

 

[D1Bound]

I’m finishing residency next Month…3 of the 6 docs I interviewed with sit, and one of my attendings sits. They claim it significantly helps their backs. Probably a personal thing. I plan on continuing to stand… and use loupes.

That’s a fair bit. I thought only around 20% preferred sitting. People think it’s impossible to take out teeth that way but it really isn’t that different.

 

[dratc]

That’s a fair bit. I thought only around 20% preferred sitting. People think it’s impossible to take out teeth that way but it really isn’t that different.

I have no idea what the percentage is. My experience was definitely abnormal. Not sure how I managed to bump in to so many sitters.

 

[HockeyDocOMFS]

I’ve never seen a residency teach sitting. I have seen a program teach their residents to switch sides.

So confused… aren’t you a D4?