Low Verbal (7) on my retake

[mgmph20]

I got a 30 Q (P:12 V:7 B:11 WS: Q) GPA of 3.79 (3.73 on sGPA) BA in Nursing. Worked as a registered nurse and CNA for almost 3 years (med-surg) with hours of shadowing a primary care doctor.

The MCAT score was a retake and was a slight improvement from 28Q (verbal score of 5). I'm an ESL student from the Philippines. I am currently in Maryland and went to undergrad in Montana.

I fear that the verbal score of 7 will be detrimental to my admission this cycle.
What do you think?

I applied to the following schools.


Creighton University School of Medicine George Washington University Sch of Med & Hlth Sci Harvard Medical School (LOL)
Jefferson Medical Coll. of Thomas Jefferson Univ. Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medici Meharry Medical College Michigan State University New York Medical College Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Scien Rush Medical College Uniformed Services University of the Health Scienc University of Washington School of Medicine Wright State University Boonshoft School of Medicine University of Colorado School of Medicine University of Illinois at Chicago-College of Medic University of Utah School of Medicine University of Maryland School of Medicine Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine Georgetown University School of Medicine Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicin
University of Maryland School of Medicine

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[Silverfalcon]

I'm an ESL student from the Philippines. I am currently in Maryland and went to undergrad in Montana.

I fear that the verbal score of 7 will be detrimental to my admission this cycle.
What do you think?

Yes it will be detrimental.

 

[FattySlug]

I once got an 8 VR and was told it would really hurt my chances by other experienced members so I had to retake.

 

[n3xa]

I got a 30 Q (P:12 V:7 B:11 WS: Q) GPA of 3.79 (3.73 on sGPA) BA in Nursing. Worked as a registered nurse and CNA for almost 3 years (med-surg) with hours of shadowing a primary care doctor.

The MCAT score was a retake and was a slight improvement from 28Q (verbal score of 5). I'm an ESL student from the Philippines. I am currently in Maryland and went to undergrad in Montana.

I fear that the verbal score of 7 will be detrimental to my admission this cycle.
What do you think?

I applied to the following schools.


Creighton University School of Medicine George Washington University Sch of Med & Hlth Sci Harvard Medical School (LOL)
Jefferson Medical Coll. of Thomas Jefferson Univ. Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medici Meharry Medical College Michigan State University New York Medical College Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Scien Rush Medical College Uniformed Services University of the Health Scienc University of Washington School of Medicine Wright State University Boonshoft School of Medicine University of Colorado School of Medicine University of Illinois at Chicago-College of Medic University of Utah School of Medicine University of Maryland School of Medicine Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine Georgetown University School of Medicine Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicin
University of Maryland School of Medicine

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[Catalystik]

I agree. That last paragraph made my eyes bleed. I had to stop reading.

 

[kautionwirez]

I agree. That last paragraph made my eyes bleed. I had to stop reading.

 

[sector9]

Creighton
George Washington
Harvard Medical School (LOL)x100. Waste of money with 7 VR
Jefferson
Loyola
Meharry You aren't black, so don't bother with the secondary
Michigan State Extremely expensive if OOS
NYMC
Rosalind Franklin
Rush
USUHS
University of Washington No shot of acceptance if you aren't a resident of Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, or Idaho (WWAMI state). Waste of $33
Wright State
Colorado Expensive
UIC Extremely expensive
Utah They won't even send you a secondary unless you can prove state ties. Other specific criteria online. Likely another waste of $33 primary app fee
Maryland
Johns Hopkins Waste of money with a 7 VR
Georgetown
Virginia Commonwealth
University of Maryland

You fall into the "possible acceptance at a lower tier school/ more likely to get in to DO" with that 7 on VR, not the "shoot for the stars and add a few mid-tier safeties" category.

School specific comments in bold above

You wasted quite a bit of money on your primary application fees. I would suggest stopping now before submitting secondaries at a bunch of schools

 

[docbrill]

You fall into the "possible acceptance at a lower tier school/ more likely to get in to DO" with that 7 on VR, not the "shoot for the stars and add a few mid-tier safeties" category.

School specific comments in bold above

You wasted quite a bit of money on your primary application fees. I would suggest stopping now before submitting secondaries at a bunch of schools

Just FYI, my friend had 7 on verbal and 11s on the sciences and interviewed at Harvard two years ago. He is not URM and does not have a 4.0. Just saying.

 

[sector9]

Just FYI, my friend had 7 on verbal and 11s on the sciences and interviewed at Harvard two years ago. He is not URM and does not have a 4.0. Just saying.

Well n=1 and it sounds like he didn't got in. Harvard's 10th percentile for VR is a 9 (and Hopkins is a 10) so it is extremely unlikely that someone would get in with a 7 to either of those schools without some extreme mitigating factors, and it doesn't sound like the OP has any of those.

 

[docbrill]

Well n=1 and it sounds like he didn't got in. Harvard's 10th percentile for VR is a 9 (and Hopkins is a 10) so it is extremely unlikely that someone would get in with a 7 to either of those schools without some extreme mitigating factors, and it doesn't sound like the OP has any of those.

I didn't say it's easy or desirable to apply and get accepted with a 7. I just responded to your post which implied that it's impossible. Otherwise, I agree that it would be very hard to get into a top 10 school with a 7, but not impossible.

 

[mgmph20]

You fall into the "possible acceptance at a lower tier school/ more likely to get in to DO" with that 7 on VR, not the "shoot for the stars and add a few mid-tier safeties" category.

School specific comments in bold above

You wasted quite a bit of money on your primary application fees. I would suggest stopping now before submitting secondaries at a bunch of schools

Sorry for the eyesore that my last paragraph created.
I copy pasted straight from my AMCAS application and forgot to preview post.

With UTAH I'm part of a URM that they are encouraging to apply.
As far as expensive, it is expected that medical schools will be expensive.
Does being an ESL student give me some leeway? I know it has been subject of debate(fairness), but I've only been in the US for 7 years.
I am hoping to make it into University of Maryland. Any chances?

Creighton
George Washington
Harvard Medical School - Waste of $100 - I agree
Jefferson
Loyola
Meharry You aren't black, so don't bother with the secondary -Is it really exclusively black?
Michigan State Extremely expensive if OOS
NYMC
Rosalind Franklin
Rush
USUHS
University of Washington No shot of acceptance if you aren't a resident of Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, or Idaho (WWAMI state). Waste of $33 - I had ties in Montana, does that count?.
Wright State
Colorado Expensive - IDC
UIC Extremely expensive - IDC
Utah They won't even send you a secondary unless you can prove state ties. Other specific criteria online. Likely another waste of $33 primary app fee
Johns Hopkins Waste of money with a 7 VR - Shoot for the stars baby!
Georgetown
Virginia Commonwealth
University of Maryland

- Target school.

 

[Silverfalcon]

I didn't say it's easy or desirable to apply and get accepted with a 7. I just responded to your post which implied that it's impossible. Otherwise, I agree that it would be very hard to get into a top 10 school with a 7, but not impossible.

Of course in theory, you can say that for almost any case. I still agree with sector9 about that comment. What you describe here is n=1, so yeah, sure it may have happened, but does that make his point invalid or yours stronger? Absolutely not.

Does being an ESL student give me some leeway? I know it has been subject of debate(fairness), but I've only been in the US for 7 years.

Absolutely not, and I wouldn't really call "only 7 years."

 

[n3xa]

We're URM in Utah?! Gosh darnit wish I would've known about this earlier...