lower than 20 on mcat?

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anyone got less than 20 mcat stories and did alot better the 2nd time?
if so, what was your score breakdown?
how'd you study to improve for the 2nd time?
what's your excuse for the worst section the first time?
i need some inspiring stories because my confidence is almost nonexistent.
8 BS 8 PS 2 VR.
IDK WUT THE HELL HAPPENED FOR VR. I WAS AVRGIN 6-8 DURING PRACTICE... BASICALLY BURNOUT.

IN-DEPTH REPLIES AND ANALYSIS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
THANKS
 
I think verbal is all about practice questions. I wouldn't consider averaging in the 6-8 range an indication that you are ready to take the test.
 
I saw a chances thread the other day of someone else who also had a 2 on the verbal. He had the same excuse as you did. I thought both of you were the same user until I checked the thread again.
 
Verbal is the easiest to boost. Do some ExamKracker's Verbal or Kaplan verbal and figureout where you're going wrong. You can boost your score EASY if you figure out WHY you're missing what you're missing.

Hit the VR hard, brush up on your sciences.
 
I think verbal is all about practice questions. I wouldn't consider averaging in the 6-8 range an indication that you are ready to take the test.

Yeah, even if the OP had gotten an 8 on the VR, it still would be an average 24 MCAT, which MIGHT be good enough for DO schools, and only good enough for MD schools if he had some really impressive EC's...

If you want to do better on the MCAT, go either to the MCAT's site and buy a bunch of practice tests, or go out to a bookstore and buy some MCAT prep books that have practice tests in them. Doing practice tests will either help you improve through studying-by-doing, or it will show you that the best scores you can hope for is in the 6-8 per region area.

To answer the question, I am 100% sure someone has made less than a 20 on the MCAT, and then retaken it for a much higher score. Flukes happen all the time. But as I said, I wouldn't just hope this is a fluke. Go do practice tests until your head explodes.
 
i'm going for MD schools.
and i will study much harder for the next one.
my gpa is around 3.4-3.5ish. more the reason i need 30+
my ecs are decent.

but still... 18 with 2 on verbal? even if i do decent on the next one, what will the adcoms think of this?

god.
 
i'm going for MD schools.
and i will study much harder for the next one.
my gpa is around 3.4-3.5ish. more the reason i need 30+
my ecs are decent.

but still... 18 with 2 on verbal? even if i do decent on the next one, what will the adcoms think of this?

god.

GPA under 3.5 and 18 on your first MCAT....it's going to be hard to swing an MD school unless you really knock the next one outta the park.
 
i'm going for MD schools.
and i will study much harder for the next one.
my gpa is around 3.4-3.5ish. more the reason i need 30+
my ecs are decent.

but still... 18 with 2 on verbal? even if i do decent on the next one, what will the adcoms think of this?

god.

I'm going to be totally honest with you. It is almost impossible you will get into a US MD school. Consider low-ranked DO or caribbean. This is not an insult, but you really shouldn't get your hopes high at all, unless you are a URM with fantastic EC's (like NGO sort of wide-reaching public health stuff).
 
I'm going to be totally honest with you. It is almost impossible you will get into a US MD school. Consider low-ranked DO or caribbean. This is not an insult, but you really shouldn't get your hopes high at all, unless you are a URM with fantastic EC's (like NGO sort of wide-reaching public health stuff).

you're saying that i have no chance even if i make 30+ on the next mcat or just by my score now?
thanks for being realistic, but i also need hope.
 
verbal can be done you just have to take lots and lots of practice tests. EK method worked best for me. For me timing was a problem...which was associated with focusing. The second time around I ignored everything kaplan taught me about summarizing and writing stuff down and all that and just used the ek method along w/ the 1001 book...

Anyways first time I took the test...never scored lower than 8 on verbal and was averaging 10-11. Took the real test and got a 5...I was completed surprised (almost did a regrade) I did so bad although my timing was reaaally off on test day. BUT I also didn't really give verbal as much attention during my prep because 1. I was under the impression it couldn't be improved drastically and 2. it really was my best score most of the time on the practice tests.

Second time around...bought the EK book, dropped the kaplan method and went through almost all of the book, got the timing under control and ended up getting an 11 on the july 30 exam

However, I must agree that you need to get the rest of your sections up. If you put in enough time and honestly identify your weaknesses you should be able to raise your score.
 
you're saying that i have no chance even if i make 30+ on the next mcat or just by my score now?
thanks for being realistic, but i also need hope.

Even assuming you get it up from an 18 to a 30+ your GPA is low for a US MD school. Your first one indicates you were not prepared and 18 to 30+ is such a HUGE jump.

We're not saying that you can't get in if you do get it that high, we're just telling you that with a GPA that low and a first MCAT of 18 you have a long road ahead of you.
 
I'm going to be totally honest with you. It is almost impossible you will get into a US MD school. Consider low-ranked DO or caribbean. This is not an insult, but you really shouldn't get your hopes high at all, unless you are a URM with fantastic EC's (like NGO sort of wide-reaching public health stuff).


ah i see, i see.
i could probably raise my gpa by the time i grad but
yeah i guess i shouldnt have taken the mcat.
 
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It's not uGPA or MCAT but uGPA and MCAT. You can't substitute one for the other. Even if you managed a 38 on the MCAT, that 3.5 is going to kill you at allopathic schools. You need some work on both as a score of 18 would indicate that you have some problem-solving work and knowledge upgrading to do before you even think about retaking the MCAT.
 
verbal can be done you just have to take lots and lots of practice tests. EK method worked best for me. For me timing was a problem...which was associated with focusing. The second time around I ignored everything kaplan taught me about summarizing and writing stuff down and all that and just used the ek method along w/ the 1001 book...

Anyways first time I took the test...never scored lower than 8 on verbal and was averaging 10-11. Took the real test and got a 5...I was completed surprised (almost did a regrade) I did so bad although my timing was reaaally off on test day. BUT I also didn't really give verbal as much attention during my prep because 1. I was under the impression it couldn't be improved drastically and 2. it really was my best score most of the time on the practice tests.

Second time around...bought the EK book, dropped the kaplan method and went through almost all of the book, got the timing under control and ended up getting an 11 on the july 30 exam

However, I must agree that you need to get the rest of your sections up. If you put in enough time and honestly identify your weaknesses you should be able to raise your score.


thank you for your advice. im thinking about signing up for kaplan course but for verbal i will use the ek book and practice. many people dont recommend the kaplan course but i feel so burntout that i need someone to teach me things rather than reading for content. i dont know if any of you have anything to say about their science teachings but if you guys have any advice, thatd be great.

im just wondering now even if i raise my mcat score to 30+ that the 18 will really still hurt me in the admission process later on because this isn't just a low score, but a low low score. i mean... for the VR... 2? who gets that. people who just make random guesses on the entire section probably will get higher. i almost fainted when i checked my score.
 
thank you for your advice. im thinking about signing up for kaplan course but for verbal i will use the ek book and practice. many people dont recommend the kaplan course but i feel so burntout that i need someone to teach me things rather than reading for content. i dont know if any of you have anything to say about their science teachings but if you guys have any advice, thatd be great.

im just wondering now even if i raise my mcat score to 30+ that the 18 will really still hurt me in the admission process later on because this isn't just a low score, but a low low score. i mean... for the VR... 2? who gets that. people who just make random guesses on the entire section probably will get higher. i almost fainted when i checked my score.


If you got it up above 30 they would probably see it as a stupid fluke. You are not the first or last person to bomb the MCAT the first time they took it. You'll at least get interviews and from there can hopefully explain what went wrong. You need to figure out what went wrong, find an eloquent way of wording it without excuses and be able to express this to others.

So here's your game plan:


WHY did I score so low on VR? What am I missing consistently and why?
**P.S. I thought Kaplan helped me a TON with this, I got a 6 the first time and 11 the second time.

Get that score up!! DO NOT RETAKE UNTIL YOU ARE CONSISTENTLY MAKING ABOVE A 30 ON AAMC PRACTICES!!

Work on your GPA. You need to get it up at least to a 3.6 or 3.7 if at all possible (I realize this will be hard, consider a couple years of graduate courses if you need to).

Make sure you have the rest of your app sorted out as far as ECs go.
 
thank you for your advice. im thinking about signing up for kaplan course but for verbal i will use the ek book and practice. many people dont recommend the kaplan course but i feel so burntout that i need someone to teach me things rather than reading for content. i dont know if any of you have anything to say about their science teachings but if you guys have any advice, thatd be great.

im just wondering now even if i raise my mcat score to 30+ that the 18 will really still hurt me in the admission process later on because this isn't just a low score, but a low low score. i mean... for the VR... 2? who gets that. people who just make random guesses on the entire section probably will get higher. i almost fainted when i checked my score.

Actually, if you get a 30+ I think having a really low score would be better than if you had a moderately low score the first time. Let me explain my reasoning:

If I were an adcom, and I see someone with a 32 and a 28, I would think that their 'real' score would lie somewhere in between, say around a ~30, since both scores are within the same ballpark. However, if I saw two scores, a 32 and an 18, something weird is going on. One of them is obviously an outlier. However, it's hard to score a few standard deviations above average compared to scoring well below average. To accomplish the former, all you have is luck. To accomplish the latter, you could have bad luck, you could have been sick, you could have messed up your answer sheet, and so forth. I'd be inclined to think that the poor score was the outlier, and thus your 'real' score would be somewhere around 32.


Now, whether or not you can get there is the question. What year are you in school? What classes have you had? The VR section is tricky, and it takes practice. Do tons of tests, and read a lot.**

For the science sections, review the original material, read through test-prep books, and take plenty of practice tests.

Out of curiosity, how did you do on the SAT? Standardized test scores are good predictors of other standardized test scores.

**Normally I wouldn't recommend reading books for a VR study strategy, but you need some massive improvement. Likewise, I wouldn't normally suggest reviewing course material to study for the MCAT, but you need to improve drastically on these too. More advanced bio and chem courses may help you as well. In short, you need to improve your score by many standard deviations before you'll have a chance at an allopathic school.
 
Actually, if you get a 30+ I think having a really low score would be better than if you had a moderately low score the first time. Let me explain my reasoning:

If I were an adcom, and I see someone with a 32 and a 28, I would think that their 'real' score would lie somewhere in between, say around a ~30, since both scores are within the same ballpark. However, if I saw two scores, a 32 and an 18, something weird is going on. One of them is obviously an outlier. However, it's hard to score a few standard deviations above average compared to scoring well below average. To accomplish the former, all you have is luck. To accomplish the latter, you could have bad luck, you could have been sick, you could have messed up your answer sheet, and so forth. I'd be inclined to think that the poor score was the outlier, and thus your 'real' score would be somewhere around 32.


Now, whether or not you can get there is the question. What year are you in school? What classes have you had? The VR section is tricky, and it takes practice. Do tons of tests, and read a lot.**

For the science sections, review the original material, read through test-prep books, and take plenty of practice tests.

Out of curiosity, how did you do on the SAT? Standardized test scores are good predictors of other standardized test scores.

**Normally I wouldn't recommend reading books for a VR study strategy, but you need some massive improvement. Likewise, I wouldn't normally suggest reviewing course material to study for the MCAT, but you need to improve drastically on these too. More advanced bio and chem courses may help you as well. In short, you need to improve your score by many standard deviations before you'll have a chance at an allopathic school.

thank you so much for your your advice.
to answer your questions-

i'm a fourth year majoring in microbiology. my early years in college werent that great but i have a increasing gpa trend. ive been getting 4.0 for last 2 semesters. since im not planning to grad this year i'll probably be in school for the 5th year. by the time i graduate im confident that i can raise my gpa to 3.6 and likely 3.5 science gpa. ive already taken all the basic science courses as well as advance, as you could probably tell.

i basically crammed for the mcat this past summer while doing research... research work was about 30 hrs a week. i only studied for the mcat about 2 months.
i currently have examkracker set, nova physics, princeton review (this mcat cbt book), and kaplan premiere program. not sure which to stick to but TPR seems simple and nice for science content. i looked over all of these but not thoroughly.
i've taken aamc exams 3-8. i saved 9 and 10 because i felt that i was wasting these exams when i didnt see my score improve.

i'm contemplating right now whether to take the kaplan course... it's expensive but im willing to pay for it if it's worth it. i'm willing to put time in it.

in terms of my sats... i dont remember the score, but i was at about average... this isn't telling you much but my reading comprehension wasnt high or anything.
 
thank you so much for your your advice.
to answer your questions-

i'm a fourth year majoring in microbiology. my early years in college werent that great but i have a increasing gpa trend. ive been getting 4.0 for last 2 semesters. since im not planning to grad this year i'll probably be in school for the 5th year. by the time i graduate im confident that i can raise my gpa to 3.6 and likely 3.5 science gpa. ive already taken all the basic science courses as well as advance, as you could probably tell.

i basically crammed for the mcat this past summer while doing research... research work was about 30 hrs a week. i only studied for the mcat about 2 months.
i currently have examkracker set, nova physics, princeton review (this mcat cbt book), and kaplan premiere program. not sure which to stick to but TPR seems simple and nice for science content. i looked over all of these but not thoroughly.
i've taken aamc exams 3-8. i saved 9 and 10 because i felt that i was wasting these exams when i didnt see my score improve.

i'm contemplating right now whether to take the kaplan course... it's expensive but im willing to pay for it if it's worth it. i'm willing to put time in it.

in terms of my sats... i dont remember the score, but i was at about average... this isn't telling you much but my reading comprehension wasnt high or anything.

Here's how I approached the MCAT both times (my scores expired so I had to retake). I'm a fairly good test taker, so keep in mind that my way might not be relevant to you. The first time around I went through ~3 old AAMC tests, the last time around I didn't do any of them. I only used the EK total review and the EK 101 verbal passages. Both times around, I thought these were great materials and the questions were very representative of the real test.

For the sciences, here's what I did. Start with the EK section and read through it briefly just to get the big picture. For things like physics, I'd write up a few practice problems and try to challenge myself. For things like bio, I'd draw diagrams and try to understand what was happening and _why_ at each point (e.g. follow the flow through a nephron and explain why the concentration gradient changed at each point and what the implications of that were, etc).

After briefly going through a chapter, I'd start reading up on things that I didn't feel completely comfortable with. A lot of this was through wikipedia, but I'd also watch YT videos on some of the more physiological subjects. Before taking each mini-test, I'd try to get to the point where I was extremely comfortable with the material - e.g., to the point where I could explain it to someone with a relevant background.

Then, I'd take the test. Standard multiple choice strategy here - read the article calmly, trying to get a feel for the big picture. For each question, start by crossing off the obviously (or likely) wrong answers. I usually have about 3 different marks for this - no way in hell it's right, unlikely right, possibly right (but doesn't seem like the best answer).

After scoring each of these mini tests, I'd figure out which questions I was missing. Often it was one detail of something that I had missed but that was confounding my understanding of a whole area. Find these things and fix them. Repeat this until you feel you can teach the subject and know you're right about it.

For verbal, lots and lots of practice tests. The VR section has a lot of reading between the lines, so you need to get comfortable with the tone of the passages. I always imagined what it would be like to have a conversation with the author - would we agree on things? Disagree? How come?

I think the EK series is also a pretty good score indicator, and I could never say the same thing for the kaplan courses. On the last test, I scored within 1 point of my averages on each section according to EK.

Since you were able to get average SAT scores, my guess is that it isn't some general problem with standardized tests that you have. You can do this, you'll just have to work your ass off for it. Three hours a day for several months should get you close, but don't take it again until you feel completely ready. You probably have one more shot at this - if you take it twice and get one low score and one high, the high score is going to start looking like the outlier.
 
dont take the exam unless you are breaking 30s on the practice aamcs under standard conditions. once you break a 30 i think u will be fine (hopefully), somewhere
 
you're saying that i have no chance even if i make 30+ on the next mcat or just by my score now?
thanks for being realistic, but i also need hope.
no its best to be realistic, hope is just gonna costs you more time and money, its time to find a different career possibly Physician Assistant.
Unless you come up with the cure for cancer your not going to get in. there is no way your going to go from a 2 to an 8, just look at the mcat website hardly anyone makes a 4 point improvement, unless something debilitating happened during your mcat, the score's not going up that much


.....and if you do get in you can slam it in my face as much as you want...sry
 
no its best to be realistic, hope is just gonna costs you more time and money, its time to find a different career possibly Physician Assistant.
Unless you come up with the cure for cancer your not going to get in. there is no way your going to go from a 2 to an 8, just look at the mcat website hardly anyone makes a 4 point improvement, unless something debilitating happened during your mcat, the score's not going up that much


.....and if you do get in you can slam it in my face as much as you want...sry


Normally I'd agree with you that nobody can go from 18 to a 30+, but a 2 in verbal leaves a lot of room for improvement. If he had low scores across the board (eg, 6-6-6) I would say 'no chance'. My guess is that he just had no idea what the verbal was like going into the thing.

I think there's more variance in the test than you realize as well. I improved two points (11 -> 13) in verbal from my first time with almost no additional studying. I think a 2 -> 8 improvement is certainly possible.
 
no its best to be realistic, hope is just gonna costs you more time and money, its time to find a different career possibly Physician Assistant.
Unless you come up with the cure for cancer your not going to get in. there is no way your going to go from a 2 to an 8, just look at the mcat website hardly anyone makes a 4 point improvement, unless something debilitating happened during your mcat, the score's not going up that much


.....and if you do get in you can slam it in my face as much as you want...sry

i was originally averaging 6 on the practice tests, thats why i dont get how i got a 2 on the real thing. but yes, i know that nevertheless, i still need improvement.

doctor is what i wanna be so giving up isnt an option.
 
i was originally averaging 6 on the practice tests, thats why i dont get how i got a 2 on the real thing. but yes, i know that nevertheless, i still need improvement.

doctor is what i wanna be so giving up isnt an option.

Don't take it again until you're scoring solid 11+ on each section. Also, while I admire your enthusiasm, the "anything other than MD isn't an option" isn't necessarily realistic. People with much higher statistics still need to be considering other options. Work your ass off and try for it, but at the same time you need to figure out other life goals that will make you happy.
 
It's not uGPA or MCAT but uGPA and MCAT. You can't substitute one for the other. Even if you managed a 38 on the MCAT, that 3.5 is going to kill you at allopathic schools. You need some work on both as a score of 18 would indicate that you have some problem-solving work and knowledge upgrading to do before you even think about retaking the MCAT.

A 3.5 + 38 on the MCAT is plenty good for allopathic schools
 
Normally I'd agree with you that nobody can go from 18 to a 30+, but a 2 in verbal leaves a lot of room for improvement. If he had low scores across the board (eg, 6-6-6) I would say 'no chance'. My guess is that he just had no idea what the verbal was like going into the thing.

I think there's more variance in the test than you realize as well. I improved two points (11 -> 13) in verbal from my first time with almost no additional studying. I think a 2 -> 8 improvement is certainly possible.

I agree.

Remember, MCAT scores are bell curved. When translating your actual correct/incorrect answers to the 1-15 scale, scores are bunched up towards the middle, leaving less and less room for error as your score approaches 15 and more and more room for improvement as your score approaches 1.

Take the time to study. Don't rush it. And try again.
 
You people giving advice are *****s. When did a 3.5 GPA become a "killer!" Anyone with a 38 mcat + 3.5 GPA and half common sense can choose where he/she wants to go to med school (Md or DO). This nameless forum gives people a chance to brag or make themselves feel better. The OP's 18 won't be judged as a deal breaker. It may come up during the interview like, " wow, that is a big difference. How did you do it?" OP, you 3.5 GPA is not the problem. 3.5 is right on the mark for US MD schools.

1. If score >30 on mcat: you are good to go MD
2. 25-30: limited MD options, >90% DO options
3. 20-25: Limited DO options, caribbean should be a possibility
4. <20 +great credit/cosigner: caribbean
5. <20 +bad credit/no cosigner: change career options
 
You people giving advice are *****s. When did a 3.5 GPA become a "killer!" Anyone with a 38 mcat + 3.5 GPA and half common sense can choose where he/she wants to go to med school (Md or DO). This nameless forum gives people a chance to brag or make themselves feel better. The OP's 18 won't be judged as a deal breaker. It may come up during the interview like, " wow, that is a big difference. How did you do it?" OP, you 3.5 GPA is not the problem. 3.5 is right on the mark for US MD schools.

1. If score >30 on mcat: you are good to go MD
2. 25-30: limited MD options, >90% DO options
3. 20-25: Limited DO options, caribbean should be a possibility
4. <20 +great credit/cosigner: caribbean
5. <20 +bad credit/no cosigner: change career options

I think only one person in this discussion said a 3.5 + 38 was a 'killer', while the rest of us disagreed with him. I think the rest of this discussion has actually been rather encouraging.
 
A 3.5 is probably about the 20th percentile or so. If you pair it with a huge MCAT score, it doesn't seem that bad at all. To say a 3.5 will "kill you at allopathic schools" sounds like quite a stretch, to me.
 
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Don't kid yourself. There are going to be plenty of 3.5 uGPA folks reapplying next year.

If they applied smartly and had a 38+ mcat, I'm guessing not many.
 
A 3.5 is probably about the 20th percentile or so. If you pair it with a huge MCAT score, it doesn't seem that bad and certainly won't "kill you at allopathic schools." That sounds like quite a stretch, to me.

So what's your secret? If your MDApps is accurate, then you got in with a ~3.2 gpa, which according to your calculations would like somewhere < 5th percentile. You had good test scores, but not 'huge'. Are you saying that you had no chance of getting into med school?
 
Hmm? I'm confused. I think we're on the same side of this one.

However, I think my application season speaks for itself. I definitely did not have much of a chance of getting in. 😛
 
Hmm? I'm confused. I think we're on the same side of this one.

However, I think my application season speaks for itself. I definitely did not have much of a chance of getting in. 😛

Yep, sorry. I completely misread your statement. I read it right after njbmd's statement and somehow paired you two together. My apologies! Good work though, I think you're a good counterexample to the "3.5 gpa means you have no chance" crowd.
 
Exam Krackers Verbal 101 = amazing!

Brought me from a 4 to a 9, in a month of practice.....do all the exams, and finish all practice tests on time..take it like its the real thing
 
A 3.5 is probably about the 20th percentile or so. If you pair it with a huge MCAT score, it doesn't seem that bad at all. To say a 3.5 will "kill you at allopathic schools" sounds like quite a stretch, to me.

Especially since I had a 3.3 and am at an allopathic. I'm a white male from an upper middle class family, so not URM either.

How do you get a 2 in verbal? I know people that learned English less than 4 years ago that got above 5....
 
My friend got a 17 on his first try, and a 21 on his second. He was scoring MUCH higher on the AAMCs(24s). He was devastated
 
My friend got a 17 on his first try, and a 21 on his second. He was scoring MUCH higher on the AAMCs(24s). He was devastated

Your friend shouldn't have taken the MCAT if he was scoring 24 on AAMCs.
 
age0880, he was aiming for DO schools, not M.D.
 
It is entirely possible to raise the mcat score significantly. Do lots of practice problems and practice tests. I know of people who went from 18 to 35. the only difference is that the 18 was on a practice test, not an official test. but don't freak out. Study hard and raise that score. Ignore anyone who says you have no chance at med school. You can raise that score. Do like 7-8 practice tests and then the aamcs...get examkrackers for verbal if other methods fail. You should destroy the mcat with that.
Also in the mcat forum there are many discussions on how to increase mcat score.
Even if you had 6-6-6 you could increase your chance a lot by studying!

I had 8,6,3 on first practice test. NO ONE is going to convince me to change my career. I'll keep studying, you should too.
 
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Anyone who can score 8's in the science sections can certainly score a lot better than 2 in the VR section. I say keep trying.
 
hang in there! my girlfriend got a 3 on vr the first time she wrote the test, but was able to get it up to 8! Now she's doing her first year at a top 20 MD school!

don't get discouraged, practice, practice and practice! :luck:
 
Normally I'd agree with you that nobody can go from 18 to a 30+, but a 2 in verbal leaves a lot of room for improvement. If he had low scores across the board (eg, 6-6-6) I would say 'no chance'. My guess is that he just had no idea what the verbal was like going into the thing.

A classmate of mine went from a 6-6-6 on his first MCAT to a 10-9-9 on his second. He's applying now so we'll see what happens.

OP, why aren't you considering DO schools? If being a doctor is a dream, then you'll consider going DO. An 18 won't cut it for them either, but a 28 probably would and if you retake some classes, you could up your GPA. The average at DO schools last cycle was 28 and 3.6.
 
I went from a 5 on Verbal to an 11.

It can be done, but you really have to read and ANNOTATE properly. If you don't highlight properly, you will waste time.

And if verbal is anything, it is timing and pacing.
 
hang in there! my girlfriend got a 3 on vr the first time she wrote the test, but was able to get it up to 8! Now she's doing her first year at a top 20 MD school!

don't get discouraged, practice, practice and practice! :luck:

this thread is hilarious.
 
the verbal section is variable. the only good practice tests are the AAMC ones. the EK verbal is probably 2nd best but it still sucks. I took the MCAT 3 times haha but not bc of verbal. my verbal never really stayed consistent, though, after my 1st test. In order from my first MCAT to last on verbal, I got 10, 7, 8. Why did I get the 10 the first time? Because I had the AAMC tests to practice with on the first one. I used all of them for the first test and then had to use crappy practice tests for the 2nd and 3rd tests. I also had to deal with the freakin writing section keyboard noise around me on my 2nd and 3rd times. I didn't have anyone on the WS during my verbal on my 1st test. Anyways, I can't really accurately compare my 3 scores because each time my practice materials and testing atmosphere on the real thing were different.

fortunately for me, my #1 MD school takes your highest subscores from all MCATs and then compiles them into one score. So, I already got a 10 on verbal on the first one and was unaffected by the later 7 and 8 ones hehe. I'm hoping to get an acceptance from that school for EDP this week!!! ahhh!!!!
 
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