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I meant graduate training. Across the vast majority of states:Both states I hold a LPC In required 3,000 supervised hours post-degree (IIRC).
LPCs are required to get 100 hours of practicum training that is supervised by a faculty within the program. The quality of that training (e.g., how many hours are actually face2face) and supervision can vary greatly.
Otherwise, only 600 hours on internship where the graduate program has no supervisory role. Again, the quality of those hours and the supervision can vary greatly.
What I am saying is that a person can get out of a masters program after only having 1 or 2 clients then go onto an internship that is very poorly regulated. I am not saying that there isn't variability in doctoral psychology programs but the modal hours of intervention and supervision for LPCs is generally too sparse and poorly supervised, imo. As I said earlier, I have no evidence that having more hours of face2face during during graduate training will make anyone a better clinician. But it is hard to argue the difference in hours.
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