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Recently, I was caught smoking marijuana by campus security. I had to meet with my RA who put me on probation for six months. At the end of this six month period, assuming I don't get into any kind of trouble, I will be off probation and my permanent record at college will be clean. This entire event took place on my college campus and no outside authorities were notified.

My questions are whether a) I should declare this to medical schools even though it is not on either my permanent criminal record or my permanent school record and b) How will this event affect my chances of being admitted?

I do not want to lie on my application, but, if this will kill my chances, is it really worth bringing it up---especially given the fact that it would be impossible for medical schools to ever find out about this due to the fact that it is not on my permanent college file?

Thanks
 
I don't really have an answer but I do find it amusing you posting this on 4/20. 🙂
 
don't mention it (youre clean). it will kill your app.
 
Recently, I was caught smoking marijuana by campus security. I had to meet with my RA who put me on probation for six months. At the end of this six month period, assuming I don't get into any kind of trouble, I will be off probation and my permanent record at college will be clean. This entire event took place on my college campus and no outside authorities were notified.

My questions are whether a) I should declare this to medical schools even though it is not on either my permanent criminal record or my permanent school record and b) How will this event affect my chances of being admitted?

I do not want to lie on my application, but, if this will kill my chances, is it really worth bringing it up---especially given the fact that it would be impossible for medical schools to ever find out about this due to the fact that it is not on my permanent college file?

Thanks

Cool story, Bra! You sound pretty unique, mention it in your PS and tell about how much it taught ya.
 
It would be pretty stupid of you to mention it.
 
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Recently, I was caught smoking marijuana by campus security. I had to meet with my RA who put me on probation for six months. At the end of this six month period, assuming I don't get into any kind of trouble, I will be off probation and my permanent record at college will be clean. This entire event took place on my college campus and no outside authorities were notified.

My questions are whether a) I should declare this to medical schools even though it is not on either my permanent criminal record or my permanent school record and b) How will this event affect my chances of being admitted?

I do not want to lie on my application, but, if this will kill my chances, is it really worth bringing it up---especially given the fact that it would be impossible for medical schools to ever find out about this due to the fact that it is not on my permanent college file?

Thanks

Academic probation for 6 months? Or some other type? If I remember, the applications always ask if you have ever been under any action taken by the university. Personally if this is the way it's asked, I think that not saying anything may be a mistake. If by any chance they do find out about it you will not only be at risk for not gaining acceptances this cycle, but you could also be blacklisted by many schools for future cycles. It seems like a small little lie, but is it worth that? If you do come clean I don't think it's honestly that bad of an offense and will more than likely be overlooked. Not owning up to your mistakes shows a lack of maturity… Just saying.

To make it clear, I think if you were only caught and no action was taken then I wouldn't mention it, but since action was taken you should not ignore the question. And only if its academic probation would I mention it.
 
Cool story, Bra! You sound pretty unique, mention it in your PS and tell about how much it taught ya.

Wow ur a snake. I bet you've never smoked weed because no one has ever offered u. Marajuana is safer than alcohol.don't act so superior because this Guy has a legit question. U sound like a snitch to me .
 
You need to seek treatment for your drug addiction, and then think long and hard about whether you can be trusted around patients.
If so, you should then spend significant time volunteering at drug rehab facilities to atone for your crime.
Once enough time has passed, you can then write about what you have learned in your personal statement. You should also staple a copy of the arrest report into every secondary you fill out.

Doctors make plenty of money, and can thereby afford large quantities of doritos, making them particularly susceptible to the evil effects of marijuana addiction.


haha... i hope this is a joke!
 
Wow ur a snake. I bet you've never smoked weed because no one has ever offered u. Marajuana is safer than alcohol.don't act so superior because this Guy has a legit question. U sound like a snitch to me .

Just because it's safer than alcohol, doesn't mean it is any better.
 
you say that you were caught by campus security and action was taken by your RA. this leads me to believe that the "actions" were taken not by the academic division of the college but by a residential division. when med schools ask for "action taken by college" they are referring specifically to academic probation/suspension (including when this happens due to criminal charges) so you should actually be in the clear. you might want to be more careful in the future though because the real world police are not as nice as campus security, and a misdemeanor conviction will screw you over badly.
 
Wow ur a snake. I bet you've never smoked weed because no one has ever offered u. Marajuana is safer than alcohol.don't act so superior because this Guy has a legit question. U sound like a snitch to me .

😕 I just think this guy is a certifiable bad@$$ and smoking the MJ and getting caught would make a great addition to his PS.
 
Recently, I was caught smoking marijuana by campus security. I had to meet with my RA who put me on probation for six months. At the end of this six month period, assuming I don't get into any kind of trouble, I will be off probation and my permanent record at college will be clean. This entire event took place on my college campus and no outside authorities were notified.

My questions are whether a) I should declare this to medical schools even though it is not on either my permanent criminal record or my permanent school record and b) How will this event affect my chances of being admitted?

I do not want to lie on my application, but, if this will kill my chances, is it really worth bringing it up---especially given the fact that it would be impossible for medical schools to ever find out about this due to the fact that it is not on my permanent college file?

Thanks


Yes, please mention that in your application because the last thing I want to see is a dumb$$$ medical student like you following me around. LOL

I think you have been smoking some good stuff dude.
 
some of you guys/gals are way too lame. if someone chooses to smoke marijuana DOES NOT mean they abuse it and it DOES NOT mean they are drug seeking criminals. just because you were a nerd your whole life and listened to mommy and daddy your whole life and were influenced by the "War on Drugs" (the most expensive and worthless war this country was ever a part of) doesn't mean you are in a position to judge others.

as far as i am concerned you guys are just as lame as all those clowns that said "alcohol is so bad - you guys are criminals - stop it im scared" during the prohibition. would you guys say that about alcohol now? no - because its part of the society you live in. Develop your own opinions and don't be so lame. for real.

marijuana is not that bad. stop being such impressionable naive young kids - grow up! and for all you idiots that are going to come back with "there are articles out there that say weed is bad" .. know this .. there are just as many articles that say there's no effect. and the ones that do conclude marijuana has an effect on an individual are usually sampling populations that are chronic users. too much of anything is bad? we all know drunks are bad - does that mean anyone who drinks a little alcohol is going to turn out like a drunk?
 
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Wow ur a snake. I bet you've never smoked weed because no one has ever offered u. Marajuana is safer than alcohol.don't act so superior because this Guy has a legit question. U sound like a snitch to me .

First of all, who cares about the safety of weed, it's still illegal and that's all that matters. Second, he should mention it in his personal statement just in case it every shows up.

I know a guy who didn't report a similar offense to AACOMAS and he got his acceptance rescinded and can't get into any medical school. Even if they don't follow through on any charges they make a note of it on your file.

Seriously, just explain it as a learning experience and be done with it.

NPH
 
some of you guys/gals are way too lame. if someone chooses to smoke marijuana DOES NOT mean they abuse it and it DOES NOT mean they are drug seeking criminals. just because you were a nerd your whole life and listened to mommy and daddy your whole life and were influenced by the "War on Drugs" (the most expensive and worthless war this country was ever a part of) doesn't mean you are in a position to judge others.

as far as i am concerned you guys are just as lame as all those clowns that said "alcohol is so bad - you guys are criminals - stop it im scared" during the prohibition. would you guys say that about alcohol now? no - because its part of the society you live in. Develop your own opinions and don't be so lame. for real.

marijuana is not that bad. stop being such impressionable naive young kids - grow up! and for all you idiots that are going to come back with "there are articles out there that say weed is bad" .. know this .. there are just as many articles that say there's no effect. and the ones that do conclude marijuana has an effect on an individual are usually sampling populations that are chronic users. too much of anything is bad? we all know drunks are bad - does that mean anyone who drinks a little alcohol is going to turn out like a drunk?


failtard🙄
 
First of all, who cares about the safety of weed, it's still illegal and that's all that matters. Second, he should mention it in his personal statement just in case it every shows up.

I know a guy who didn't report a similar offense to AACOMAS and he got his acceptance rescinded and can't get into any medical school. Even if they don't follow through on any charges they make a note of it on your file.

Seriously, just explain it as a learning experience and be done with it.

NPH

hahah oh my what a large load of SH&T you have there..

Do not write about it if you do not have to. Expect dips like this guy to try and mess you up down the line.

Later.
 
You need to seek treatment for your drug addiction, and then think long and hard about whether you can be trusted around patients.
If so, you should then spend significant time volunteering at drug rehab facilities to atone for your crime.
Once enough time has passed, you can then write about what you have learned in your personal statement. You should also staple a copy of the arrest report into every secondary you fill out.

Doctors make plenty of money, and can thereby afford large quantities of doritos, making them particularly susceptible to the evil effects of marijuana addiction.
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stfu
 
You need to seek treatment for your drug addiction, and then think long and hard about whether you can be trusted around patients.
If so, you should then spend significant time volunteering at drug rehab facilities to atone for your crime.
Once enough time has passed, you can then write about what you have learned in your personal statement. You should also staple a copy of the arrest report into every secondary you fill out.

Doctors make plenty of money, and can thereby afford large quantities of doritos, making them particularly susceptible to the evil effects of marijuana addiction.

Don't forget about taco bell!👍
 
I'm almost positive that at some point during the pres. campaign, an adviser must have told Obama to deny-deny-deny. He came clean ... and now he's chilling in the white house.
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Edit: I am by no means telling you whether to report or not to.
 
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I found this on the opening page of SDN, thought it might be useful. Basically they're telling you 5 myths about writing your personal statement.



Myth #5: Don’t write about anything negative.

You never want to bad-mouth anything or anyone in your essay, yet I find that this advice extends to “never write about a negative or less-than-sunny experience.” For example, if you had a poor undergraduate academic performance because a close family member got sick or you had transition issues and were terribly homesick and immature, you should address the negative experience and explain what happened and why. Or, maybe you had difficulty during your childhood because you were an immigrant or were underprivileged. I commonly hear, “I don’t want to write about that. Yes, it was important but I don’t want to tell a sob story or sound negative.” As long as you write about your experiences in terms of how they helped you to grow and how they influenced your choices, you will not be perceived in a bad light.
There are hundreds of myths about what you “should” and “should not” do when writing your personal statement. In general, few absolute rules apply and, above all else, you should be yourself, tell your story and demonstrate insight and introspection about your experiences and your choice of profession.
Jessica Freedman, MD, a former medical admissions officer, is president of MedEdits, a medical school, residency and fellowship admissions consulting firm. She is also the author of the MedEdits blog, The Medical School Interview: From Preparation to Thank You Notes and host of MedEdits Podcasts.
 
Check your transcript after the 6 month probation period. If it is listed on there, it is something that needs to be reported when applying. In any case, be more careful in the future and ask yourself whether smoking pot is really worth not being a doctor (assuming this habit somehow effects your application chances). Good luck. . .
 
I sincerely hope that you voice those opinions in your personal statement and on any interviews you might have.

People like you who want to legalize dangerous drugs like heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and meth, do not belong in the medical profession.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA , your deductive reasoning skills are impressive. My post totally implied that I think heroin, cocaine and meth should be legalized. Now, your not allowed to participate in this discussion anymore because you are clearly not smart enough, and by that I mean you dont have the average intelligence of Joe Schmo. You don't need to be that smart to discuss this.

So, for the rest of you .. I am sure you guys would ALL agree with me that consuming a bunch of alcohol every day or every other day can clearly have horrible effects on your body and mind right? There are hundreds of studies confirming this right? That alcohol abusers have remarkably slow cognition and inferior motor skills and a messed up liver and so on and so on. So my question is why dont you guys that believe anyone who smokes weed shouldn't be in the medical field ALSO believe the same about alcohol? Why dont you turn to your peers that maybe drink a little bit of beer after an exam and say "Hey thats soo bad for you and you clearly are not smart enough to stay away from things that are bad for you - you shouldnt get into medicine"

How could you think one way for marijuana and not the same for alcohol. Alcohol has ITSELF caused deaths as well as countless indirect deaths. Marijuana has only been involved indirectly to self injury and/or death. Noone has overdosed on weed. Marijuana is OBVIOUSLY bad for you but we all do things that are bad for us once in a while LIKE DRINKING ALCOHOL! Please someone explain to me what goes on in your minds when you talk **** about marijuana and not alcohol. I dont even smoke alot - I just hate ignorance.

I can totally understand that you are against doing any harm to your body. Not that you can start judging others for the lifestyles they choose but then I can understand how your mind thinks. But if thats the case, you would hate weed just as bad as alcohol. I dont get just singleing out marijuana. It leads me to believe that you are just following the crowd and being iggnorant. Someone help me understand.
 
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA , your deductive reasoning skills are impressive. My post totally implied that I think heroin, cocaine and meth should be legalized. Now, your not allowed to participate in this discussion anymore because you are clearly not smart enough, and by that I mean you dont have the average intelligence of Joe Schmo. You don't need to be that smart to discuss this.

So, for the rest of you .. I am sure you guys would ALL agree with me that consuming a bunch of alcohol every day or every other day can clearly have horrible effects on your body and mind right? There are hundreds of studies confirming this right? That alcohol abusers have remarkably slow cognition and inferior motor skills and a messed up liver and so on and so on. So my question is why dont you guys that believe anyone who smokes weed shouldn't be in the medical field ALSO believe the same about alcohol? Why dont you turn to your peers that maybe drink a little bit of beer after an exam and say "Hey thats soo bad for you and you clearly are not smart enough to stay away from things that are bad for you - you shouldnt get into medicine"

How could you think one way for marijuana and not the same for alcohol. Alcohol has ITSELF caused deaths as well as countless indirect deaths. Marijuana has only been involved indirectly to self injury and/or death. Noone has overdosed on weed. Marijuana is OBVIOUSLY bad for you but we all do things that are bad for us once in a while LIKE DRINKING ALCOHOL! Please someone explain to me what goes on in your minds when you talk **** about marijuana and not alcohol. I dont even smoke alot - I just hate ignorance.

I can totally understand that you are against doing any harm to your body. Not that you can start judging others for the lifestyles they choose but then I can understand how your mind thinks. But if thats the case, you would hate weed just as bad as alcohol. I dont get just singleing out marijuana. It leads me to believe that you are just following the crowd and being iggnorant. Someone help me understand.
Marijuana = illegal.
Alcohol = legal.

/story.
 
Marijuana = illegal.
Alcohol = legal.

/story.

Marijuanas not illegal for me - I live in Cali and got my prescription. I can smoke in my apartment whenever I want. And almost all my friends also smoke it "legally".

And you know at some point in this country, a black man marrying a white women was illegal too right?
 
Marijuanas not illegal for me - I live in Cali and got my prescription. I can smoke in my apartment whenever I want. And almost all my friends also smoke it "legally".

And you know at some point in this country, a black man marrying a white women was illegal too right?

for real...dont try to win this argument on SDN. they will never understand.
 
I wonder whether CA will have any luck legalizing marijuana in Nov. That would certainly provide a sequel to the "alchohol=legal, pot=illegal" story.

But I imagine even if it was legalized it would still be quite a while until it would be acceptable as a doctor/med student to do it. In a profession where such a high percentage is addicted to alcohol, I would feel much more comfortable if doctors had more access to a less dangerous and less addictive drug.
 
for real...dont try to win this argument on SDN. they will never understand.

Good luck winning this argument out in the real world as well. People are far too simple minded to evaluate evidence objectively and come to rational conclusions.

I know this is not directly related to the issue of drugs, but I talked to a doctor in the south who was partners with an african-american cardiologist. This cardiologist attended some of the most prestigious schools and programs for his residency/fellowship, yet MULTIPLE times in his career patients refused to see him bc he was black. He was told this to his face a couple of times. I guess the media and music industry are still succeeding at portraying african americans as unintelligent and downright ridiculous (see lil jon)

Along the same vein, pot users in movies and television shows (especially older movies like Cheech and Chong movies) are portrayed as jobless losers who have no societal value. Therefore someone who uses even the smallest amount of marijuana is thrown into the "chronic stoner" bin and is not capable of holding a job. I guess the high functioning marijuana user is a complete myth 🙄

Given my current job as an EMT I don't smoke, but it still upsets me to see people say that a person who recreationally uses marijuana should not be allowed to practice medicine. As long as that person is not practicing medicine while impaired, why should a physician not be allowed to use a relatively harmless drug off the clock which in moderate amounts is very safe?

I personally don't think marijuana is currently illegal because the government wants to protect people from its reaches. I just think the tobacco, pharmaceutical, and alcohol lobby groups have an iron grip on our legislative branch. I bet if tobacco was banned COPD rates in this nation would drop considerably. Just throwing that out there.
 
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So did you cover your opinions on how great drug use is, and on government coverups in your PS? If not, make sure to do so in interviews.

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You just confirmed my assertion that people are too simple-minded to address issues objectively by stereotyping me as a conspiracy theorist. So in your opinion millions of dollars are spent by pharmaceutical/tobacco companies in lobbies for no reason at all? Seems like it would be silly to pay money for nothing, especially when you have to please stock holders.

Oh and at one of my interviews I did talk about how drug and insurance companies lobby heavilly so they receive favorable treatment by the government. This often leads to increased health costs for the consumer. The interviewer agreed and claimed I made a valid point. I was later accepted.

I also suggest you re-read my post as I make no mention of "how great drug use is". I merely state that people should not stereotype occasional pot users as washed-out losers. Also, people should worry less about the private lives of physicians as long as they practice medicine sober.

btw cool picture bro 👍
 
So did you cover your opinions on how great drug use is, and on government coverups in your PS? If not, make sure to do so in interviews.

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Dr Arete has to be the lamest guy on the internet. i bet you have no friends offline LOL

idiots like this guy that are still as impressionable as most of us were when we were 8 years old and have absolutely no value to society, let alone medicine

i dont know if your trying to get into nursing or not but don't do it, be a classy janitor or a cashier with dignity or something. you do not need to do too much thinking with those jobs so I think it will suit you well.
 
check out this site if you're interested in some unbiased, non-politicized information about drugs (legal and illegal). it's ridiculously complete.

http://www.erowid.org
 
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Ali, S.F., et al. “Chronic Marijuana Smoke Exposure in the Rhesus Monkey IV: Neurochemical Effects and Comparison to Acute and Chronic Exposure to Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in Rats.” Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior 40 (1991): 677-82.

Its actually a rather interesting article because it refutes an earlier study that THC causes brain damage in rhesus monkeys.

Good luck advancing society even though you lack the ability to have a sound discussion. Maybe you should bash family medicine and rural doctors during your interview...because its not like these physicians play a critical role in patient care or anything, right? :laugh:
 
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So if someone uses marijuana they have to be driving? News to my ears, especially since many people dont have cars especially in urban locations with public transportation systems. No where in my posts did I condone driving under the influence. I think a DUI is a terrible offense, even if a person is driving under under the influence of legally scripted drugs such as opiates for say back pain.

Also, your second finding has to do with "heavy users of marijuana", particularly adolescent and young adult users. First of all, not all users are chronic users. I would be interested in reading the operational definition of chronic user as defined in this study. Like it or not, many things can have negative effects in excess. For instance, overhydration can lead to diminished electrolyte levels and even death in some instances. And yes, abuse of "legal" drugs such as ETOH can significantly affect brain function. Drug addiction is a terrible thing, Yet, THC is not physically addictive. There is a psychological addition that can occur, but this can be curbed by only using the drug occasionally. I enjoy drinking beer from time to time, but this does not translate into "I need to drink every night to cope with my life".

Secondly, I agree that any drug use during the adolescent to young adult period is dangerous because this time is a critical period in brain development. But again, you obviously did not read my prior posts because I did not condone adolescent drug use. I merely commented on the hypocrisy of the stoner stereotype and stated that physicians should be able to do what they want in their own time as long as it does not put their patients at risk.

I'm all done here.
 
Check your transcript after the 6 month probation period. If it is listed on there, it is something that needs to be reported when applying. In any case, be more careful in the future and ask yourself whether smoking pot is really worth not being a doctor (assuming this habit somehow effects your application chances). Good luck. . .

I think this is the best advice in this thread.

Also, this thread is hilarious. I strongly disagree with smoking marijuana for personal reasons (I've never done it and never will), but the OP doesn't imply anywhere that he lights up daily. Smoking marijuana on occasion doesn't make you a pothead just like getting drunk every once in awhile doesn't make you an alcoholic. Yes, alcohol is legal and weed is not (though I think they should legalize and tax the bejesus out of it), and I'm not trying to argue that, but as the great Cher Horowitz once said, "It is one thing to spark up a doobie and get laced at parties, but it is quite another to be fried all day."

Of course, I think he needs to knock it the hell off it he wants to be a doctor.
 
So if someone uses marijuana they have to be driving? News to my ears, especially since many people dont have cars especially in urban locations with public transportation systems. No where in my posts did I condone driving under the influence. I think a DUI is a terrible offense, even if a person is driving under under the influence of legally scripted drugs such as opiates for say back pain.

Also, your second finding has to do with "heavy users of marijuana", particularly adolescent and young adult users. First of all, not all users are chronic users. I would be interested in reading the operational definition of chronic user as defined in this study. Like it or not, many things can have negative effects in excess. For instance, overhydration can lead to diminished electrolyte levels and even death in some instances. And yes, abuse of "legal" drugs such as ETOH can significantly affect brain function. Drug addiction is a terrible thing, Yet, THC is not physically addictive. There is a psychological addition that can occur, but this can be curbed by only using the drug occasionally. I enjoy drinking beer from time to time, but this does not translate into "I need to drink every night to cope with my life".

Secondly, I agree that any drug use during the adolescent to young adult period is dangerous because this time is a critical period in brain development. But again, you obviously did not read my prior posts because I did not condone adolescent drug use. I merely commented on the hypocrisy of the stoner stereotype and stated that physicians should be able to do what they want in their own time as long as it does not put their patients at risk.

I'm all done here.

ya man, i think im done too. theres no point in trying to make that Dr Artete understand. I am almost 100% sure he is responding like an idiot with very stupid responses just to piss us off. there is no way that someone thats trying to go into nursing can come up with horrible responses that take no brain power to come up with.

i really hope he is just doing it to piss us off because I would hate knowing there might be a nurse out there one day that is that dumb. im done checking this thread ... i think we made our point - quite well actually.
 
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getting back to the original post, i definitely don't think you should ever mention something like that. remember that you are not simply appealing to some fair-minded, omniscient, mature administrator. you are applying to a human being with as much bias and bull**** as all the posters above me. dont bring up touchy subjects like this unless you absolutely have to. if your punishment from using marijuana is the best learning experience you can come up with, you need to think harder.
 
Your marijuana use has affected your memory. I have never sought, nor do I seek, to become a nurse.

thanks for proving my point. your too stupid to know that im clowning on you
 
Did u not even know that watson was tripping on hard acid when he deduced the double helix structure of dna?

Come on Peopple, chronic isnt that bad
 
Your marijuana use has affected your memory. I have never sought, nor do I seek, to become a nurse.

I thought at first you were just messing around in this thread but I've had this argument once before with you. Medical students smoke and some will go on to be amazing physicians. Many medical students also don't indulge, and some will go on to be amazing physicians. END OF STORY
 
So due to some administrative errors I never actually received probation. Instead, I received a written warning. Does a written warning qualify for the AMCAS's definition of "institutional action"?

Thanks
 
I sincerely hope that you voice those opinions in your personal statement and on any interviews you might have.

People like you who want to legalize dangerous drugs like heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and meth, do not belong in the medical profession.


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Yeah, Sorry OP. Everyone knows everyone who smokes weed are completely brain-dead idiots who are helplessly addicted to it, and every time you smoke up you kill a billion angel babies. Not a single doctor has ever ever used it. You might as well give up now and content yourself with being just a professor/researcher like Carl Sagan, Richard Feynman, Kary Mullis, and Francis Crick.
 
This thread is still alive and as good as ever!
 
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