Hi all. Looking for some advice on what to do regarding my education. Here is the background:
Graduated with a BS as a double major in public relations and psychology with a minor in marketing as an undergraduate. Planned to apply to graduate PhD programs in clinical psych after taking a year off to get a job as a research assistant or a job in clinical care. For reasons not worth going into, I was not ready in getting my stuff together to apply out of college and needed the extra year. My undergraduate stats were:
-Overall GPA: 3.56
-Psych GPA: 3.7
-Completed a senior honors thesis
-Worked in a depression/anxiety lab at our university from soph year to senior year.
-Essentially no clinical experience
So as I'm applying to jobs during my spring of senior year, I get an email from one of my marketing professors about applying to the marketing phd program at my same university. The program has a focus on consumer behavior which has a bunch of psychological aspects to it. Long story short I was essentially given the golden ticket into this phd program in marketing.
One year has passed and I'm still debating whether or not I should reconsider applying to true clinical psych programs. I like this program but I do not LOVE it. After a year I still have this itch from knowing this degree will not allow me to work as a therapist (and this is my true interest). I have reached out to other professors and I know it is possible to get a phd in one area and then pursue a psyd or something like that later in life but I'm not sure it's worth all that time waiting.
To this point this is my graduate GPA: 3.67 likely to be 3.7 by semesters end.
Here are the main pros of my program:
-Fully funded (no tuition cost) with a very nice stipend.
-Beautiful campus/location and the same I've been at since undergrad
-No required TA or RA assigned to the stipend
-Most of my classes are taken in our psychology department within the university (e.g. emotion & cognition, social psychology, psychometric theory, ANOVA methods, etc.)
-Currently living with my girlfriend of over 5 years who recently just applied to my programs MSW program (will almost certainly get in too).
-Assuming I stay with it, I could be a professor at some point studying the same topics I would be studying at a clinical phd program but making more money (bus schools are better funded, sad but true)
-New program in the sense that it is still finding its identity (although this is also a bad thing). I'm one of only 5 students in the program so far.
-The professor that recruited me actually studies very cool stuff in self-control and goals. I could see myself working under him in this area of research despite it not being my main areas of research. My main area of interest for research is in emotion and emotion regulation. Therefore..
Cons to the program:
-My main research interest is in emotion regulation. This requires training in conducting research on emotion-- a subject nobody in our department studies. This means I'd need to spend a semester or two at another university learning under a professor there. This is allowed in our program but probably not ideal. My thinking is if I need to go somewhere else for training in what I'm interested in, perhaps I should just apply to what my heart is saying I should do.
-Not a lot of guidance/mentoring
-Not much in the way of professors who share a similar interest as I do. Apart from the previously mentioned professor, many study "pure marketing" which is one of the fastest ways to put me to sleep
Basically I feel stuck. Do I stick with this program knowing that I can be content but not really giving my chance to truly be happy? Do I wait it up until later in my career to look into options that will allow me to become a therapist? Or should I just save myself the long waiting period and just make the switch while I'm still young (23).
I have a couple of questions I hope you can answer:
-Given my background, if I hypothetically dropped from the program today and applied to clinical Phd programs, would I be competitive given a decent GRE score?
-Would it be taboo to begin applying to clinical psych programs while I'm still in the program and on my stipend, with the assumption that if I don't get accepted anywhere it's no harm no foul? Do you need to inform the psych grad school that you are currently in a different phd program? Would you need to get a LOR from someone in the marketing phd program?? BTW I think I would be able to get one but would prefer to keep quiet if I can.
-How realistic is it to expect to get accepted in a psyd or a masters down the line if I stay in this track? That is, would admissions have a bias against me and my academic background?
I was thinking of hypothetically getting a MSW at some point but I know not all states allow you to private practice with that degree alone (eg you need a doctorate). And again, getting back to that professor I talked to, he got a phd in theology and later (after being tenured) got his psyd at the university he taught at.
I guess what I'm getting at is I really want to be a therapist at some point in my life. Should it be now or later? I know this was long-winded. Thank you if you got through all of it. I appreciate ANY advice you folks can give me.
Best
Graduated with a BS as a double major in public relations and psychology with a minor in marketing as an undergraduate. Planned to apply to graduate PhD programs in clinical psych after taking a year off to get a job as a research assistant or a job in clinical care. For reasons not worth going into, I was not ready in getting my stuff together to apply out of college and needed the extra year. My undergraduate stats were:
-Overall GPA: 3.56
-Psych GPA: 3.7
-Completed a senior honors thesis
-Worked in a depression/anxiety lab at our university from soph year to senior year.
-Essentially no clinical experience
So as I'm applying to jobs during my spring of senior year, I get an email from one of my marketing professors about applying to the marketing phd program at my same university. The program has a focus on consumer behavior which has a bunch of psychological aspects to it. Long story short I was essentially given the golden ticket into this phd program in marketing.
One year has passed and I'm still debating whether or not I should reconsider applying to true clinical psych programs. I like this program but I do not LOVE it. After a year I still have this itch from knowing this degree will not allow me to work as a therapist (and this is my true interest). I have reached out to other professors and I know it is possible to get a phd in one area and then pursue a psyd or something like that later in life but I'm not sure it's worth all that time waiting.
To this point this is my graduate GPA: 3.67 likely to be 3.7 by semesters end.
Here are the main pros of my program:
-Fully funded (no tuition cost) with a very nice stipend.
-Beautiful campus/location and the same I've been at since undergrad
-No required TA or RA assigned to the stipend
-Most of my classes are taken in our psychology department within the university (e.g. emotion & cognition, social psychology, psychometric theory, ANOVA methods, etc.)
-Currently living with my girlfriend of over 5 years who recently just applied to my programs MSW program (will almost certainly get in too).
-Assuming I stay with it, I could be a professor at some point studying the same topics I would be studying at a clinical phd program but making more money (bus schools are better funded, sad but true)
-New program in the sense that it is still finding its identity (although this is also a bad thing). I'm one of only 5 students in the program so far.
-The professor that recruited me actually studies very cool stuff in self-control and goals. I could see myself working under him in this area of research despite it not being my main areas of research. My main area of interest for research is in emotion and emotion regulation. Therefore..
Cons to the program:
-My main research interest is in emotion regulation. This requires training in conducting research on emotion-- a subject nobody in our department studies. This means I'd need to spend a semester or two at another university learning under a professor there. This is allowed in our program but probably not ideal. My thinking is if I need to go somewhere else for training in what I'm interested in, perhaps I should just apply to what my heart is saying I should do.
-Not a lot of guidance/mentoring
-Not much in the way of professors who share a similar interest as I do. Apart from the previously mentioned professor, many study "pure marketing" which is one of the fastest ways to put me to sleep
Basically I feel stuck. Do I stick with this program knowing that I can be content but not really giving my chance to truly be happy? Do I wait it up until later in my career to look into options that will allow me to become a therapist? Or should I just save myself the long waiting period and just make the switch while I'm still young (23).
I have a couple of questions I hope you can answer:
-Given my background, if I hypothetically dropped from the program today and applied to clinical Phd programs, would I be competitive given a decent GRE score?
-Would it be taboo to begin applying to clinical psych programs while I'm still in the program and on my stipend, with the assumption that if I don't get accepted anywhere it's no harm no foul? Do you need to inform the psych grad school that you are currently in a different phd program? Would you need to get a LOR from someone in the marketing phd program?? BTW I think I would be able to get one but would prefer to keep quiet if I can.
-How realistic is it to expect to get accepted in a psyd or a masters down the line if I stay in this track? That is, would admissions have a bias against me and my academic background?
I was thinking of hypothetically getting a MSW at some point but I know not all states allow you to private practice with that degree alone (eg you need a doctorate). And again, getting back to that professor I talked to, he got a phd in theology and later (after being tenured) got his psyd at the university he taught at.
I guess what I'm getting at is I really want to be a therapist at some point in my life. Should it be now or later? I know this was long-winded. Thank you if you got through all of it. I appreciate ANY advice you folks can give me.
Best
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