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*Chanting* shorty yeet, shorty yeet*************************
samac made The Bad Mistake (TM) smdh smdh smdh smdh
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I was thinking about that earlier about AM. When was the last time she has read me village? Not too often.Unyeet cubs
Yeet Bob
Bob was the last name AM mentioned before she died. I've said before he's more jokey, less analytical this game.
All the bad guys are going to have a cover role. Fluff threw out black widow with confidence. If I was making up a fake role, I would not use one of the avengers. I would pick someone like mantis or someone you know wouldn’t be in the gameWhat does that have to do with anything?
I think it’s worth considering it wasn’t a cover role and that it was an attempt to get a counterclaim from someone.All the bad guys are going to have a cover role. Fluff threw out black widow with confidence. If I was making up a fake role, I would not use one of the avengers. I would pick someone like mantis or someone you know wouldn’t be in the game
Black widow is an OG avenger and would be in the game just as much or more than black panther. Black widow had counter claims. These are poor arguments. But I am all for exploring alternatives. Assume cubs is off the board. Where to next?Mayor Fluff had a lot of marks against their record, and so many people had other reads tied up in the information from Fluff's flip. No one believed Fluff's role, or otherwise it was irrelevant for most people because of the information Fluff's flip would provide, and all the marks against her, guaranteed that no matter what, flipping Fluff was going to keep coming up.
I can see, and have made points for this being a village Cubs. The other side of it makes sense too. Black Panther is a role I believe would be in the game, and without legitimate counter claims, I'm willing to explore other alternatives for now. Especially given the time we have left this cycle.
Cubs is not Fluff. These are very different situations.
Are you smelling the wolfy odor of a furry!Bob?
All wolves have been bad guys. Bad guys were hunted at in the write up. Cover roles are almost guaranteed in my opinion.I mean, we don't know that Fluff's was a cover role. It's just that no one counter claimed. But why would they if no one bought was Fluff was selling anyway? They're not mutually exclusive.
It took me awhile to figure out what you meant. That would be cool. But I doubt thanos needs anything from black widow that would make sense story wise.I think it’s worth considering it wasn’t a cover role and that it was an attempt to get a counterclaim from someone.
Like maybe thanos powered up or something if they got her.
I dunno.
Maybe you’re still trying to get someone to.
Did I say to push a low poster?It took me awhile to figure out what you meant. That would be cool. But I doubt thanos needs anything from black widow that would make sense story wise.
If we had to push a lowposter, then who would it be?
I don't think so. Did anyone counter claim Fluff's Black Widow claim, and I just missed it?Black widow had counter claims.
Talk to me Samacs. What's got you perplexed?I’m just confused at this point.
Saying there’s multiple black widow counter claims but arguing that fluff wouldn’t make that claim as a main avenger.Talk to me Samacs. What's got you perplexed?
Just making sure true said this in a game threadThe funniest thing is he said he’d work on his intro this time.
No I never tried to reveal anything before Samac was talking about cats, thought it’d be a good time since I’d have to reveal at some point this cycle anywayDid cubs say whether he had been softing prior to today or did anybody find evidence of it? I'm at work and don't have time to look back atm.
Yes, literally in the sign up thread for this game.Just making sure true said this in a game thread
Right?
My memory is that of a goldfishYes, literally in the sign up thread for this game.sign up thread for this game.
I knowI mean, we don't know that Fluff's was a cover role. It's just that no one counter claimed. But why would they if no one bought was Fluff was selling anyway? They're not mutually exclusive.
I’m saying to push a low poster. That is where I would look next. I can’t see there not being one there.Did I say to push a low poster?
That should’ve been “black widow had no counter claim”. (I guess don’t claim it now if villlains looking for black widow tinfoil could be true)I don't think so. Did anyone counter claim Fluff's Black Widow claim, and I just missed it?
Yep. Sorry.Saying there’s multiple black widow counter claims but arguing that fluff wouldn’t make that claim as a main avenger.
Holy typos batman
I actually saw that. Kirby can like eat machines and turn into them.
No but now you play like the machines with a pink plastic kirby skin.
This is who I feel good about at the moment by the way:
Village reading DubZ, True, Dana.
Village to neutral: AM, Genny, Zenge, Mel
Neutral: Bob, PSV, violet, kdswg, Bread, SAR, Sporty, cubs (need to ISO/hear more from them)
Neutral to wolfy: TME, Barks.
I am unsure about Samac. I felt that her push towards me was similar to her push on kdswg. It sucks that I'm the noob she's tunneling this game, but if that's her way, it's unfortunately consistent with village!Samac. However, I don't understand the arguments about Zenge's comment on the movement of the thread. Why pick up on Zenge when it was True's comment and Bob also pitched in. It felt like she was arguing just for the sake of arguing, and although it was different than the orchestrated argument between her and wolf!Zenge in BoWWling, it didn't feel v/v.
80 I think...
So you thought TME was a wolf and that wolves moved to Mel to save TME.
I have to say I got so surprised at the fast movement towards Mel and because I had been village reading him I was expecting him to flip village. So I’m not going to bother with True’s quote of “when” that much.
No I saw your answer! Your move to TME totally makes sense to me.
Post, it’s occasional mentions of Bob but very literal direct interaction towards him.So you've never mistakenly defended a wolf before?
Cause he literally was posting saying he has no idea who to vote. So did Bob, who thought the Mel train was wolf-driven. I get it as rushed vote excuse. But he's on my vote today too, so maybe you're right he's not completely cleared. SAR, Sporty, violet have given me nothing. Especially SAR who was voting barks just for the "cubs is powervillaging" comment (I think?).
Taking a break from my homework a bit. I guess everyone's still convinced I'm a wolf?
As much as I hate to admit it, samac, AM, Bob, genny, Dana you're right. I'm not gaining anything by waiting. Although I'd rather die than stay and keep defending myself day after day but I'm giving you all a chance to see me differently.
I'm Black Widow and a tracker.
You encouraged me to role reveal and now you yeet me?
This is my POE atm by the way: Sporty, SAR, Bob too I guess.
Sure hes also in my POE, but you're not being tunneled by Samac...
Don’t like.Yeet Genny
Lol 😩
Honestly makes me feel ok about SAR
Because exactly 3 wolves being on a post together is just silly
I'm willing to die for my sins if cubs is village. At that point I'm just a liability anyway.
There’s not been a big push off of him.
I’m just exploring other avenues.
I was pretty confident in my fluff read which in turn made me confident on my sporty read. I planned on spending the day pushing sport sport so now I have to figure out the next step.
I have a hard time reconciling Cubs thread exit, simultaneously with fluff’s thread exit as W/W. Though I also struggle with fluff’s nail in the coffin comment being about him.
I am concerned and spinning.
This is a good time to say that earlier I said something along the lines of "I bet there's a wolf among the low-posters" but I included Sporty and low and behold, she were a woof. I don't think there necessarily needs to be another one.Yeet cubs
For now. But I don't love Bob trying to push the "low posters" as a general whole without an idea of where to go specifically. We're off to a great start but yeeting a whole lot of quiet but village folk in a row isn't great for the chance of a village win
This is a good time to say that earlier I said something along the lines of "I bet there's a wolf among the low-posters" but I included Sporty and low and behold, she were a woof. I don't think there necessarily needs to be another one.
Yeet sporty.
For now. It's a stereotypical wolf intro post, so yeah. I'll probably change it later when my brain isn't as broken.
Not sure if I'll be able to post much today since I had to get up at 4:15am (those cows....) and will be completely exhausted and living off caffeine all day (discovered chai lattes the other day and ohmygodthey'resogood). I'll try, but it will probably be very dumb thoughts. I'll definitely be more active/have a clearer head tomorrow (so before the cycle shuts down).
(also i really hope someone recognizes my pfp, im very proud of my crappy photoshop skills here)
^not impressed with violet's postQuoting this to see if there was follow-through, because with this post alone, I'm not impressed.
This post feels wolfy. I know it's not game related, but the wording feels so wolfy.
I do think that recent giant wall post overrides this, but still.
^thinks violet and true are w/v for some reasonI don't remember why I quoted this.
How are you feeling about AM now?
See, posts like this are why I keep squinting at you.
and I feel like violet and True cannot be the same affiliation based on some of their interactions.
Bread is playing?
yes. I expect better things from you in the next 20 pages.
^in response to bread saying he didnt like his OG vote on dubzDon't like it why? Did something in particular make you feel she was villagey?
@The_Breadmann why are you lurking and not answering my question about your Dubz read.
Don't ask me where it is, ISO it. I'm busy reading.
I get that you kind of always play like this, but I expect better reasoning for your reads at this point.
To the bolded: I am paying attention and I do notice that. You've done it multiple times this game.
I'm not saying that no one can village read you ever. I'm just saying Bread's reasoning here is weak and True's "I don't want her to be a wolf" last game also was. I haven't even made this argument beyond that in my recent memory. But when people try to village read people like you/AM/genny/whoever with shallow reasoning like that, they're in trouble. It's not everyone. It's just happened a fair bit the last few games.
I feel like I'm tunneling or beating a dead horse at this point, but my question was not on the fact she was RNG. It was the fact you said she was villagey with no justification for it. Do better.
And Dubz, before you read this as me singling you out, I'm really not. I think the reasoning for the vote is weak regardless.
As of page 11-12 I didn’t get a strong village read yet.
Oh that’s right, I do remember seeing that comment about cubs and the power wolfing.
I haven’t read enough to make a definitive read on cubs yet but tbh I didn’t think that post in particular (of Barks’) was unusual.
Now that I have finally read up until the point this comment was made....
I agree with Dubz. Cubs isn't screaming villager and his posts leading up to this one are lackluster for village!Cubs
^likes a cubs post, but still hedgey on him
Hmmm. I think I like this post, but not enough to give a village read yet
@cubsrule4e why are you voting for yourself?
^says this in response to cubs yeeting true.Oh this is…. Interesting and unfashionable
^still hedging on cubsWe're on page 21 and I still don't have my cubs read.
^again, hedgey with cubs in response to dubz raising alarms at sporty not having a cubs read yetI'm not there.... yet.
But I might be soon.
^hey look, its sporty being hedgey about cubs!I have sympathy for the frustration, but this kind of broad "x, y, z, and also a or b are wolfy" isn't usually what I see from you as a villager.
^"if someone had better reads than just that comment about cubs" kinda stood out to meI would consider a genny vote if someone had better reads than just that comment about cubs.
@WildZoo genny way?
I think I’m only 10 pages behind now, some random bunch in the middle of the thread.
I’m interested in seeing whether I can get a Bob read or cubs soul read during those pages. As it is, I’m still nervous to consider voting cubs but those are my own misgivings.
^commenting about no follow up to kdswg being confusedThe lack of substance from some players in the first four pages of the thread is painful.
I might still be too, but there was no follow up on this so idk what's going on anymore.
^replying to a comment kdswg madeI read it like 3 times and it took that much to maybe possibly realize that I was also wolfing that game?
^commenting on how dubz putting kdswg so high on her reads listApparently that particular opinion is unpopular
^kdswg agreed with sporty's comment that cubs's vote for true is "interesting and unfashionable." and then proceeds to vote for true, whom sporty has been throwing some slight sus on up to this pointFashionable is boring
yeet true
kds sounds dramatically different than she did last game.
^again, she replies to a random kdswg comment. just feels off to mealso this is interesting.
^explaining what she means by kdswg sounding different this gamewell, you were a wolf last game sooo I'd hope that'd mean it's a good way.
^this one is so weird to me. sporty is replying to dubz commenting on how everyone was asking her about her placement of kdswg on her reads list. sporty says she just got to dubz's read post and agrees with her about the kdswg placement BUT as you'll notice, she HAD ALREADY COMMENTED during the live discussion of dubz's reads about kdswg- "apparently that particular opinion is unpopular." so how could she have just gotten to that exact post, if she had already responded to it? why respond again just to bring up that you agree with the placement of kdswg? im just not followingYeah and that was definitely me lol
But now I got to that exact post of yours and I agree with you.
Sometimes I feel kinship with genny when she likes my posts but that's a dangerous road for me to travel.
I would consider a genny vote if someone had better reads than just that comment about cubs.
@WildZoo genny way?
^questioning why SAR was feeling villageI don't think I understand where this came from.
Feelings on these instances now?
why? She barely posted at this point.
^again questioning why SAR is a village readI don't think I agree with that assessment but you do you. I don't think she's wolfy yet but I don't think it serves her a village read.
^"idk... if i like this post" is in response to SARWell, it'll certainly be interesting for me to see how we went from this to all-in on fluff.
idk... if I like this post. Both because I think TME is a gutsy enough player to do it and also because I... don't think that it's AI for many players at all. Particularly for a non-noob.
^replying to trueThis post feels odd.
^explaining why true's post feels oddFeels like trying to hard to be nooby
^again explaining why true's post feels oddIt’s less that and more just the way the post is worded. I don’t think not knowing about night cancel alone is wolfy.
^says true's post feels like he's trying too hardSomething here feels…. Like trying too hard.
Noting this interaction
I laughed at this, but to respond seriously:
I might agree that True is within POE based on tone this game. I just was not under the impression that other people felt that way
^calls true's post wolfyQuoting this to see if there was follow-through, because with this post alone, I'm not impressed.
This post feels wolfy. I know it's not game related, but the wording feels so wolfy.
I do think that recent giant wall post overrides this, but still.
^says "posts like this are why i keep squinting at you" in response to true.I don't remember why I quoted this.
How are you feeling about AM now?
See, posts like this are why I keep squinting at you.
and I feel like violet and True cannot be the same affiliation based on some of their interactions.
^explains that true and violet cannot be v/v because of a gut feeling? but still says true is sketchyI mean, maybe. It's just a gut feeling and maybe it's being overly influenced by your sketchy Mel post immediately prior to that.
^says something about true's post felt off to herI don’t think the content is wolfy nor is discussing the dog AI in a wolfy sense. Just something about the post felt off to me.
I know Bob just said he's been very busy but I haven't seen much of him in the last numerous pages and I think I would like to go back to believing I am good at reading him. So his absence, at very least, makes me... sad. And at worst, makes me worried.
^explaining why she's concerned about bobYeah but I felt pretty good about him being village last game.
I don't know if I just literally haven't seen any of his posts in the last 10ish pages (ie, he didn't post?) or if they've been so empty that they've not stuck in my brain.
^insinuates shes not village reading bobs right nowI NEVER vote someone just for being quiet. I’m just used to getting a handle on village!Bob fairly well regardless of post count.
^disagrees with bob and says something about true's post felt offI don’t think the content is wolfy nor is discussing the dog AI in a wolfy sense. Just something about the post felt off to me.
I think that’s a bunch of WIFOM.one of the main reasons why i would probably not yeet out anyone that sporty was pushing is because clearly sporty saw that the fluff ship was sinking yesterday. i dont think her strategy would be to throw sus on a different wolf in her pack while knowing that shes probably going to lose fluff.
i get what youre saying, and i dont think soft sus at each other would be unreasonable for wolves in the slightest, but i still stand by that if i were in sporty's shoes, i would have absolutely stayed far away from throwing sus on another wolf while fluff was going down.I think that’s a bunch of WIFOM.
I wouldn’t yeet anyone she was sussing hard and trying to push a vote.
But anyone with soft sus is still on the table
And just to be clear the only ones I’m clearing for this were AM and Zenges.We Are Groot Day 2 *FINAL* Vote Tally
fluff (12) - samac, Zenge, SAR, Dana, True, PSV, Barks, AM, Sporty, Bob, violet, fluff
cubs (2) - DubZ, genny
True (2) - cubs, kdswg
Sporty ()
16/17
Missing: @The_Breadmann
Vote closed at 10pm ET/9pm CT/7pm Fantasyland on Thursday, 2/17/22
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im feeling good about true after that iso. i think he's the person sporty pushed the hardestAnd just to be clear the only ones I’m clearing for this were AM and Zenges.
I’m clearing barks and sar for other reasons.
I think dubz and genny are village.
I think Dana is village. Kdawg feels different than last game, I think she’s villlage.
I actually think bread is village.
PSV mostly village but I haven’t looked at her closely at all.
Unclear on violet, true, cubs and Bob.
Honestly it feels really weird that you are clear on and village-reading Kdsg, who's been on no wolf votes and pushed by no wolves, but uncertain about me, who voted out two wolves and was pushed by fluff a tiny bit and Sporty a ton.And just to be clear the only ones I’m clearing for this were AM and Zenges.
I’m clearing barks and sar for other reasons.
I think dubz and genny are village.
I think Dana is village. Kdawg feels different than last game, I think she’s villlage.
I actually think bread is village.
PSV mostly village but I haven’t looked at her closely at all.
Unclear on violet, true, cubs and Bob.
^This was a jokey post but... 🤷♀️ ya never knowVillage!Sporty confirmed.
This was also in defense of sporty, when I first voted for sports.What was so stereotypically wolfy about it? Your post here feels more wolfy to me than anything sporty has said.
Interesting that cubs is in the same category as sporty on fluff'sThis is who I feel good about at the moment by the way:
Village reading DubZ, True, Dana.
Village to neutral: AM, Genny, Zenge, Mel
Neutral: Bob, PSV, violet, kdswg, Bread, SAR, Sporty, cubs (need to ISO/hear more from them)
Neutral to wolfy: TME, Barks.
^Bonus True back at it again, predicting the future.Colored lists 😍
Now if you get NK'd on night 1 we can repeatedly refer back to this for the rest of the game
Fine... but. I really don't know where else to look. I don't find TME wolfy anymore.
unyeet Barks
I'm now tinfoiling that Cubs stopping me and Barks was because he was trying to save his packmate...
Im gonna go back to Barks. I'm lost otherwise. And cubs comment to move away didn't make me feel better.
yeet barks
Halfway through page 3, 35% catch up complete.
SAR feeling village.
Back to work.
Feelings on these instances now?
why? She barely posted at this point.
She had 15 posts by then. And one of them screaming about how she remembered a jokey intro she wanted to say. Definitely wasnt screaming wolf.
Idk.Now that I have finally read up until the point this comment was made....
I agree with Dubz. Cubs isn't screaming villager and his posts leading up to this one are lackluster for village!Cubs
Hmmmm.Shelty is my cub. And I was never defending fluff. I basically said the barks/fluff thing was v/v.
This could be either villagey or wolfy: everyone wants to survive.Is this like the AM strategy where I asked you a question but you’re making me answer first?
Orange yellow range - violet has done nothing to make me change my read. True making more and more quirky statements, and while he’s always been pretty chatty at this point it’s starting to feel a little over the top.
Next tier - samac starting to bug me being hyper focused on the whole fluff thing. Then she used that to basically put me in potential wolf reads when fluff hasn’t even flipped yet. And as far as I can tell it’s now getting me placed at the bottom of many lists for “defending” fluff, when all I said was that the barky/fluff back and forth felt v/v and I was countering her rojo argument by saying that it was also definitely something a noob could say. Then you said you’re wolf reading me but for a totally different reason which I’m unsure about other than the indefensible “tone” argument which others have also mentioned even though some of them only have two games with me to compare. And these same newer players seeing a good veteran vote for me are probably only confirming in their minds that their wolf read on me is correct.
Zenge’s comments largely agreeing with a lot of what I’ve been saying started to feel a little pockety but nothing that can warrant orange or red status.
i think this is the second time you've listed me in the yellow but I've yet to see you quote a post from me in an ISO 🤔 like sure, read me however you want, but whats the reasoning?Cubsy/Sporty/Fluff ISO! It took awhile :/
^This was a jokey post but... 🤷♀️ ya never know
This was also in defense of sporty, when I first voted for sports.
Interesting that cubs is in the same category as sporty on fluff's
^Bonus True back at it again, predicting the future.
Weird vibes from this, almost like it's staged? Anyone else get a weird feeling from it?Idk.
Hmmmm.
This could be either villagey or wolfy: everyone wants to survive.
I don't feel like quoting them all but cubs does a BUNCH of defending his fluff villageread on pg. 46. It's very defensive and me no likey.
I went up to page 50, because I'm pretty sure fluff knew she was going down and started some theater with sporty. So, I don't know if I really trust anything from there out.
Anyway, yeah I'll yeet cubs. Lots of coincidences that I really, really don't like.
So far
samac, barks, true, bread
dubZ, PSV, kds
zenge + dana
genny
I keep on finding quotes that make you seem pretty village, but then other quotes that aren't so much. I'd have to actually ISO you to have something more definitive, but because you keep flipping between greenish and reddish, you're neutral to me for now.i think this is the second time you've listed me in the yellow but I've yet to see you quote a post from me in an ISO 🤔 like sure, read me however you want, but whats the reasoning?
Actually hold on, just remembered I saved some quotes about sporty in my role PM, I think you might be mentioned. Pls hold for a mini incomplete sporty ISO.i think this is the second time you've listed me in the yellow but I've yet to see you quote a post from me in an ISO 🤔 like sure, read me however you want, but whats the reasoning?
Mel gets no one any credit.Honestly it feels really weird that you are clear on and village-reading Kdsg, who's been on no wolf votes and pushed by no wolves, but uncertain about me, who voted out two wolves and was pushed by fluff a tiny bit and Sporty a ton.
Can you at least help me understand why? Am I really just this crappy at being a villager? It's just so confusing trying to follow your logic
I love you
I don’t have a summary. I’ve just read his analysis posts and compared to village Bob I’m used to, they lack Umph.Is there a summary of the Bob case somewhere? I mean, I know he was in the first 5 posters, but beyond that 😉
Also, kdawg feels different than last game. I not hard village reading her. That’s reserved for barks sar and zenge.Honestly it feels really weird that you are clear on and village-reading Kdsg, who's been on no wolf votes and pushed by no wolves, but uncertain about me, who voted out two wolves and was pushed by fluff a tiny bit and Sporty a ton.
Can you at least help me understand why? Am I really just this crappy at being a villager? It's just so confusing trying to follow your logic