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I dont really recall more people sussing me much from the SoD . Later I think some of my replies to you sketched out some people but nothing too big . Moon and shinichi iirc . And also shinichi also mentioned it seemed probably t/t discussion
I still believe it feels more tvt, based on what was happening. It could be scum theatre but I think it was to early for that to be needed, but if that did happen here ill probably never catch it.
 
Also mostly because other yeet option rn that I would think is... Clem?

And would be more of an aura sheep that both genny and zenge didnt vibe with Clem more than an actual reason to sus Clem may be mafia
Yeah it’s a really thin read. And from very early in the thread. I’m not thrilled about a Clem vote, it feels blah.
 
the thread feels somewhat stagnant and like there’s little resistance to the 2 top discussed players - stagg, moon.
There’s resistance to Zenges but that’s me and santy and dubz and I don’t think it’s coming from a wolfy place from either of yall.

It also just might be because it’s slow.
How do we feel about the discussions around stagg and moon?
not what you asked but can i get your thoughts on genny
 
Contrary to popular belief staff someone starting a wagon that stands to gain traction on d1 is not typical wolf behavior.
Not completely sure what you're referencing here, but if so then what are your thoughts on me voting Santy? Apparently others also felt he might be sketch, so do you think I'd try and start that wagon on him if I were a wolf?

I don’t think this is a good vote for the record. I’ve seen Dubz play recently when she’s been really busy and also village and it’s pretty much this.

Also think she’s probably village here.
Why?
 
Im not thrilled about how outside of your tunnel of me, despite people who I think are coming across as village, telling you you’re probably wrong, your response about where else you’d be voting today if not me is to just be like:


That’s like… admitting to not having any interest in trying to solve and vote out scum.
Like specifically this interaction with achro is what I find off putting about your slot.
 
From vibes I feel like the feng shui is alright with mkg.

But also dont feel confident on it (or the content was enough to have confidence on that) for me to shield them
 
I am actually starting to come around on moon being town. I think Moon’s worldview is very off. Don’t agree with that reads list much. Especially Santy at the bottom. But being wrong on Santy, who I think is probably town, isn’t indicative of moon being a wolf. Especially D1.

I’ve probably been guilty of the same mistake tbh.
I mean I don’t feel great about moon, to be clear. But I’m having my doubts about this being a wolf and not just a woefully misguided villager.
 
Contrary to popular belief staff someone starting a wagon that stands to gain traction on d1 is not typical wolf behavior.
I also agree, its more likely that mafia will jump on a wagon d1, not be the leading vote.
 
Also mostly because other yeet option rn that I would think is... Clem?

And would be more of an aura sheep that both genny and zenge didnt vibe with Clem more than an actual reason to sus Clem may be mafia
I thought about Clem too but it felt like it fizzled out
 
Your response to achro felt like mafia crying about why the slot wont town read you like the rest.
Can you quote a specific post that you felt I was

“Crying about why they wouldn’t town read me”
 
Not completely sure what you're referencing here, but if so then what are your thoughts on me voting Santy? Apparently others also felt he might be sketch, so do you think I'd try and start that wagon on him if I were a wolf?


Why?
I was referencing your questioning of the lockclear. I was saying it would not be normal wolf behavior to push your wolf partner like that with no traction going that way on d1.

Are you saying you and santy are wolf together or? I don’t understand your response
 
When’s the last time Clem even posted?
Its Been A Long Time Waiting GIF
 
Well, obviously I'd take me out, and I'd still take Zenge out. Even aside from the meta argument, I think his vibes are ~fine.

genny and Santy I would add; I know we're opposites on that. Santy I feel had some caught for the wrong reasons vibes during the argument with Stagg, and I haven't liked his pushes on me. genny I just don't get why people are reading her towny, and frankly her and Santy feel linked together, like one or maybe both of them are wolves.

Also, TBH, I don't get why you switched from Clem. Why couldn't he just be scum playing audaciously?
could you expand on this? like yeah maybe theres a wolf between them but w/w feels really unlikely imo. santy fully sent his village read genny early. i feel like thats a huge gamble to take as a wolf
 
Day 1 Yeet Tally
Zenge (2) - Space 50, Shini 36
genny () -
Dubz () -
mkg () -
Shini (1) - genny 25
Santy () -
Clem (1) - moon 49
Stagg (2) - Dubz 45, samac 86
Gikkle (1) - Clem 19
moon (4)
- Santy 95, Achro 61, Gikkle 44, mkg 27

11/15
Missing: mayo 3, PSV 6, Stagg 25, Zenge 77
yeet close in ~1.5 hours
 
explain these if you havent already
Well, for reference, the tier above this was null, so you're null-scummy. Your vibes feel a little off, like you're detached and commenting on the thread more than participating. But that could just be a result of catch-up posting, IDK.

Last tier is scum leans. I feel like I explained them all in 603, but I could expand if you want.
 
(Copy-pasta from opening post because I know I'll forget someone otherwise)
Clem J - I only remember this person calling out DubZ (which took me a while to figure out was wildzoo) and reinforcing that read based on prior game history.
Santygrass- probably town based on vibes. I'll have a better handle on this person come day 2.
mkg323 - rvs posts felt very free-flowy. I could be biased since they called me towny or towny-looking or some other variation adjacent to that, but I'm not looking to yeet there today.
potentialsheltervet- I only remember this person have fewer than a dozen posts and I cannot for the life of me remember any of the content therein. I don't know if they ever posted after the RVS
moonstermash- I remember not liking them much in the rvs, liking them afterwards and having no recollection of why I had feelings either way. Currently thinking town because I haven't put additional thought into it.
samac- my top town, despite their protestations
holdthemayo - I can't remember but one post mayo made, but I liked it. I wouldn't hold onto that read if I don't see more, but I'm liking it for now.
Zenge142 - probably my biggest person to suspect, and it's not a lot behind it.
genny - null, but I feel like Genny is friendly and regardless of alignment is going to pocket me
WildZoo - I feel like I've seen "DubZ's" posts a lot, and I should have a firmer grasp on where they are, but I guess it feels kinda like treading water. This is the slot I would wager I need to spend the most time assessing.
Stagg737 - this is someone I find I will likely tunnel if I don't see something different from them. At first glance, their style like the type I will have trouble seeing as towny.
ShinichiMD - the difference between shinichi and someone like mayo is that shinichi just checked in and did/said nothing
Gikkle - maybe scum? There's a lot of world's I'm building around their flip, and that's probably unfair because there's only been 1 or 2 moments of "huh? This is scummy"
Achromatic - lean town due to general vibing, despite a hiccup here or there.
How many pages had you read when you posted this?
 
Through pg 11...

I kinda like genny entrance, it was straight to game talk and questioning people. Does genny do this as any alignment?
Quite the opposite as any alignment from my experience
As in: genny is usually far more side-liney type of player as any alignment
oh this kinda worries me now because I gave genny such an easy town read, is genny a power wolf player?
Lol, no. genny tends to blend and coast more as a wolf. Prickly genny is a good sign imo, especially if she's talking about killing me which she has done multiple times. If genny is a wolf she wins this cycle, my top town read atm by a lot.
 
dog #2 just fell on my laptop. the screen seems to be okay but her emotional state has been compromised and she is now sulking on the couch
stay tuned for more riveting updates
This post wouldn't send for a sec because her mad scramble hit the airplane mode button.
 
It is serious.
But she’s skirting towards mod kill so not worth my energy until she comes back.
The last couple times I’ve played with village mkg she has been very obvious to me pretty early. Didn’t get any of those vibes this time.

Unyeet mkg
Yeet stagg
WAT.

This makes no sense to me. MKG is catching up and you unvote because "she might be mod killed" while simultaneously saying you're not seeing the village flags?

You've been moving into the sketch leans and this is all sorts of wtf.
 
FTR, I never voted Santy, I voted Clem.
Oh. My bad.
Within the grand scheme of mafia! I played a game with him awhile back when he was obvious town to me and the town kept trying to murder him. So im being whimsical and going with my first instinct day 1 to see how it goes.
I see. There isn't a deep history, just one chummy game?
 
could you expand on this? like yeah maybe theres a wolf between them but w/w feels really unlikely imo. santy fully sent his village read genny early. i feel like thats a huge gamble to take as a wolf
On ISO, Santy seemed like he was talking about genny a lot more than she was about him, and her read on him seemed more tempered than his on her. So if one of them is pocketing, it's definitely Santy over genny. Also, genny's read seems like it leaves room to change her mind later (if town!Santy) or keep some distance so they're not too buddy-buddy (if wolf!Santy).

I did say "maybe both" for a reason, though, I agree it's unlikely w/w. But I try not to discount the power of WIFOM manipulation, TBH.
 
WAT.

This makes no sense to me. MKG is catching up and you unvote because "she might be mod killed" while simultaneously saying you're not seeing the village flags?

You've been moving into the sketch leans and this is all sorts of wtf.
Okay.
I unvoted her in my catch up, before I realized she was also here.
But no, im still not seeing the village flags.
 
Tbf I can get pretty tunnly as a villager too. Go ask Falcon.
He won't answer my cawls
i think it's more that i don't know shinichi's meta, and they've got 2 posts thus far, and if they don't show up and say things then i don't want that slot in d2 to muddy the waters. i may switch later, i'm not one of those who picks a vote and never changes.
At this point do you think shinichi is scummier than moon? You mentioned wanting to vote for moon last night
 
Due to unexpected events, I will likely not be here for EOD. This may be my last post of the day
 
mkg323
moonstermash
Zenge142
WildZoo
ShinichiMD
Spacecamp

This is my vote pool (just my earlier PoE but I removed the people who are just inactive & effectively just rand imo)

I don't think these 6 have done anything I couldn't see wolves also doing

Spacecamp is prooobably the towniest of these 6? Not by a lot, but enough to make them not my first choice

If anyone has a good enough argument as to why any of these 6 shouldn't be my vote (or why someone should be added to the list) I'd like to hear it.

@Spacecamp what about Shinichi's posting makes you not want them to be the vote?

@moonstermash i'd like to hear from you in particular bc I know you have pretty different reads from me

I like this list overall. Space has some question marks for me, but I don't think I'd go there today. Shinichi seems good for now with their catch up. Having played with Zenge more I think he's less likely wolf, but I can definitely see the arguments the non-SDN players are making and they're not bad. Will be watching but also wouldn't go there today. I'd add Samac to the lower end of my wolf list at this point. My gut doesn't feel good about Samac right now and last time I felt this strongly it was RvB in endgame when she was a converted wolf.
 
Does anyone have a counterclaim?
 
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