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Matrix - Game Thread
Started by Animal Midwife
Hi. I feel terrible about not meeting post min. It will not happen again
I can't guarantee I won't fall asleep in the next ten minutes but I'm going to attempt to catch up some. Sorry all for my lack of participation thus far. Should be better the next couple days.
I can't guarantee I won't fall asleep in the next ten minutes but I'm going to attempt to catch up some. Sorry all for my lack of participation thus far. Should be better the next couple days.
Sorry, what is the math thingy you mention here? I've seen you bring it up a few times and idk what you are referring toYeet Clem
Explain math thingy you mentioned. ANd why you only said that and dipped off thread (When flip was posted you reacted to it so I take it you where kinda around at the time so just weirded out on what was on your mind at EoD)
Meh, I wasn't caught up on the thread until relatively close to close. I probably wouldn't have let it rand, but as I mentioned I'm kinda weak to AtE and I feel like I have something with achro. So I wanted to pursue that.Also, while I could say I agree with what @potentialsheltervet said about Achro at EoD seemed like good points and I think Achro needs to be more discussed. I am a bit wary of why you didnt vote for mkg and tried to do a cfd like... 10 minutes before day was over. You really thought after all the day of discussion you would come in and in 10 minutes just do a big shift ?
If that would've happened it'd be just bad play from town. And idk if it was like -5 min til close and the wagons being tied at shinichi-mkg , you saying you suspected mkg and you were going to let it rand??
Didn't you very firmly claim samac as scum yesterday? I don't get what you mean when you mention the champs rep armor affecting your readSkimming Melee right now. @samac , I did find you sus but mostly because of the "Huh" response which was cleared up. You're always a little sketch to me early, but it has felt different this game. Not sure if it's d/t champs rep armor or something else, but something that I'm still mulling over.
Eh?Come on now, you know this is wrong now.
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Oh I see. Nvm santy I rememberI mean it's just pure math right
And I haven't really read enough to make an informed decision based on thread context or whatever, so math is my friend
Möther plsI want to give shot gun reads because sometimes that helps me
1. @Clem J - scum
2. @Santygrass - village
4. @potentialsheltervet - scum
5. @moonstermash - village
6. @samac
7. @holdthemayo - village
8. @Zenge142 - village
9. @genny - village
10. @WildZoo - village
11. @Stagg737 - scum
12. @ShinichiMD - scum
13. @Gikkle - village
14. @Achromatic - village
My scum side is too narrow.
I genuinely glanced at it one time, went, "nah this is beyond me byeeee!" and have not looked at it since. Someone could claim pumpkin that shoots laser beams out its ass and I'd be like well, yeah. That's a real role!I hate looking at the matrix, it makes my head hurt
holdtheinfoWatch mayo be the doctor or some **** and just not here lol
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Shini (1) - moon 20
Clem () -
Achro (1) - Santy 79
Stagg (1) - Dubz 36
moon (1) - Clem 45
Gikkle (1) - samac 39
5/13
yeet close in ~21.5 hours
Shini (1) - moon 20
Clem () -
Achro (1) - Santy 79
Stagg (1) - Dubz 36
moon (1) - Clem 45
Gikkle (1) - samac 39
5/13
yeet close in ~21.5 hours
Oh my god. Matrix is referring to the grid at the beginning. I was like "damn, I've never seen those movies?"
Are you referring to Stagg's post or Dubz's response?That is deeply cringe tbf
This is also how I took it. I don't think he responded directly to me mentioning it except to say he has a tendency to try yeeting PRs.I thought it was to say that was why Achro was reading moon wolfy?? Because PRs act like "scared kittens" and it comes across wolfy? Idk.
What about mkg's flip made you feel good about Zenge?Not that I thought it would matter because of the mafia blocker, but Zenge. He's the player I feel best about after mkg's flip.
The grown ups have probably already addressed this but yes and no. Unlike human med there is no gold standard for vet med so unless it's outlined in the state veterinary practice act, malpractice tends to be... A bit more subjective, I feel?(Now, this last part is a joke. Tangentially, is medical malpractice as big an issue in veterinary practice as it is in human medicine?)
It’s such a weird dynamic though, no?I mean the specific type of emptiness I'm mostly failing to describe is wolfy
Like I can’t say this is a low effort slot. The Gikkle hasn’t been as consistently rock star in their approach throughout the game, but you can’t tell me they haven’t had a few bangers?
I’m asking, is this your top wolf read? Maybe you feel like a lack of pitch forks and torches is suspicious, but do you really think they’re howling the loudest?
That’s what I’m asking.
I guess I understand this point of view in retrospect.TBH, I didn't really understand the mkg wagon much, it kinda felt like it popped up out of nowhere. Whereas being on the Shinichi wagon (with mkg) made more sense to me. It's probably where I would have gone if I didn't get overwhelmed and lose track of time, whoops.
It is absolutely bafflingly to me that you have Samac and Dubz in here for "red flags". Can you be more specific?PoE at the moment is Moon, Achro, Dubz, Samac (unordered)
ohoSubbing in for @holdthemayo is @marmot`
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Try again lol I was vehemently fighting to get him yotenliving village all saw them as hard-cleared
Why is Gikkle this low?Alright, I caught up, but I was hoping to get the spreadsheet done and posted, and I'm not quite there yet. (I should really figure out how Nate automates things, I'm silly enough to do it all manually.) Hopefully I'll have more time for that tonight/early tomorrow.
In the meantime, this is where I'm at:
Zenge
Achro
samac & Dubz
Clem J
PSV
Santy
mayo/marmot
genny
Stagg737
Gikkle
Shinichi
Sorry to drop a list and run, but I'll answer any questions when I can.
Huh? Why me?Achro, Clem, PSV, Shinichi, mayo --> marmot
Three. Euthanize the math.It just occurs to me that put down has two different meanings.
Excuse me? I made this argument first. I mean, not to sound like a first grader, but I was the one who brought up Achro yesterday EOD with multiple of these same thoughts.Santy gave a solid argument. Other things were that I wasn't a fan of the sudden backing off of Zenge, then voting for Moon after the weird interaction between them, then unvoting Moon and almost immediately following me onto MKG
Ooh, difference check between santy and achrovote: Achromatic
my legacy is to murder the **** out of santy
reading up on why space might have been n1'd now
Iso used to be better but allegedly this forum isn't dedicated to mafia games so now we have this crappy searchI skimmed through the posts since isoing here is annoying. Can you cite a post?
Agree with the read but not the reasonAlso nevermind Santy hyper posting is probably town Santy.
How was a self vote checking sanityunvote: Achromatic
I was gut checking santy there you may stop twitching now.
*Santy, I'm on my phone.
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Basically I wanted to see how the dog reacted when it caught up with the car.
I thunk santy reacted from an uninformed perspective as I can't imagine someone who us familiar with me would act so unbothered if they knew I was town. I am a pretty annoying person to have tunneled on you. Especially when I am right.
Santy didn't give any indication he knew my alignment during that time imo
I thunk santy reacted from an uninformed perspective as I can't imagine someone who us familiar with me would act so unbothered if they knew I was town. I am a pretty annoying person to have tunneled on you. Especially when I am right.
Santy didn't give any indication he knew my alignment during that time imo
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I am on my phone too sorry for typos lol
Do you think he would have deduced this from the one game you played together?I thunk santy reacted from an uninformed perspective as I can't imagine someone who us familiar with me would act so unbothered if they knew I was town. I am a pretty annoying person to have tunneled on you. Especially when I am right.
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Considered I ripped the head off of a very good scum player, probablyDo you think he would have deduced this from the one game you played together?
I also think santy has seen me play a few times besides that one game. Mashes mostly but he should remember the vibe of town me
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If my memory is serving me he has been scum against me twice and neither time do I remember him particularly wanting to square up with me.
Stagg's lolAre you referring to Stagg's post or Dubz's response?
This is also how I took it. I don't think he responded directly to me mentioning it except to say he has a tendency to try yeeting PRs.
What about mkg's flip made you feel good about Zenge?
The grown ups have probably already addressed this but yes and no. Unlike human med there is no gold standard for vet med so unless it's outlined in the state veterinary practice act, malpractice tends to be... A bit more subjective, I feel?
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I think we're fundamentally talking on different wavelengths here lolIt’s such a weird dynamic though, no?
Like I can’t say this is a low effort slot. The Gikkle hasn’t been as consistently rock star in their approach throughout the game, but you can’t tell me they haven’t had a few bangers?
I’m asking, is this your top wolf read? Maybe you feel like a lack of pitch forks and torches is suspicious, but do you really think they’re howling the loudest?
That’s what I’m asking.
I'm really evaluating it through a macro, holistic, vibes of the slot approach, gikkle having micro stuff that feels fine or good isn't super relevant to the read because the whole picture feels really scummy to me. Like...it's not really an effort thing, having a few bangers (which I'll take your word for tbh, I haven't seen any in his posts, but ymmv) doesn't negate that as a whole it's just...a lot of bleh. Like it just feels like they're saying stuff that they think people will read and go "yes, that's smart, sure, you can be town" rather than saying things because they actually have conviction in them
Again I usually really try to avoid talking in these terms because it's not such a confident read that I'm 100% sure I'm not insulting their town game, which If that's the case I'm sorry gikkle the problem is me not you
I don't think santy specifically would care about that at all but I may be wrong 🤷♀️Basically I wanted to see how the dog reacted when it caught up with the car.
I thunk santy reacted from an uninformed perspective as I can't imagine someone who us familiar with me would act so unbothered if they knew I was town. I am a pretty annoying person to have tunneled on you. Especially when I am right.
Santy didn't give any indication he knew my alignment during that time imo
Spoiler alert: Remember A Guy icon Shawn Marion of the NBA was not in themOh my god. Matrix is referring to the grid at the beginning. I was like "damn, I've never seen those movies?"
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To be fair to the forum, Threadloom ceasing to exist was a decision by that software company, not SDN punishing us for playing werewolf lolIso used to be better but allegedly this forum isn't dedicated to mafia games so now we have this crappy search
Are you asking why are you in a PoE ?Huh? Why me?
So you expect for players to be townreading you with the content you have on thread so far?
I don't think santy specifically would care about that at all but I may be wrong 🤷♀️
I dont really think my reaction would be much different if I were a wolf but can't really say for sure wowee
Unyeet Achromatic
Yeet Gikkle
Yeet Gikkle
I'm thinking the yeet today should be one between Gikkle, Achromatic or Stagg.
@Zenge142 who are the players you are 👀 with wolfy energy?
@Zenge142 who are the players you are 👀 with wolfy energy?
I'm thinking the yeet today should be one between Gikkle, Achromatic or Stagg.
@Zenge142 who are the players you are 👀 with wolfy energy?
Think maybe I'm being too lenient with the low content slots like shinichi/psv/marmot , but tbh I could see them going either way. And think one of those three names would help us to progress in the game much more and feel more likely to flip scum
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Meh, I wasn't caught up on the thread until relatively close to close. I probably wouldn't have let it rand, but as I mentioned I'm kinda weak to AtE and I feel like I have something with achro. So I wanted to pursue that.
But were you aware at EoD that it eas tied between MKG and Shinichi and froze because you were weak to AtE, or you just didnt notice the tie? Also, what AtE?
Also, is this read real psv?Ooh, difference check between santy and achro
Imagine myself asking with a goblin face going like this
popping out of the trenchcoatOf that list Achro.I'm thinking the yeet today should be one between Gikkle, Achromatic or Stagg.
@Zenge142 who are the players you are 👀 with wolfy energy?
I think Stagg is just a villager tbh.
I’m still holding out hope for a village Gikkle but I definitely need to see some more content and solving.
Yeah, I don’t disagree. I’d like to see Marmot pop on.Think maybe I'm being too lenient with the low content slots like shinichi/psv/marmot , but tbh I could see them going either way. And think one of those three names would help us to progress in the game much more and feel more likely to flip scum
And while I can find a town rationale for Shinichi’s actions enough for me to unvote and consider looking elsewhere, it’s by no means clearing. They’re lack of presence this cycle is particularly difficult to manage.
I think PSV is village though, but with the footnote that she’s an exceptionally good wolf and I’ve been fooled before. -Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice… we don’t get fooled again.
And I guess this should serve as a counter balance to your PSV concern, because you frequently tend to misread village PSV as a wolfI think PSV is village though, but with the footnote that she’s an exceptionally good wolf and I’ve been fooled before. -Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice… we don’t get fooled again.
Their.They’re
Achromatic
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Do not worry, you are not the first person to mistake me for having wolfy energy upon first meeting me. That's just my charming personality.
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I was hoping for more from Marmot given that slot has done nothing, hopefully today.
Still waiting to pass judgment on Gikkle's soul as well.
Still waiting to pass judgment on Gikkle's soul as well.
I do actually have an idea for a solve that I’ve been ruminating on.I'm thinking the yeet today should be one between Gikkle, Achromatic or Stagg.
@Zenge142 who are the players you are 👀 with wolfy energy?
I don’t want to type it all out right now, as I’m at work, and there’s a lot I want to lay out.
I think Stagg is just a villager tbh.
Also, on this note. How good is the track record of dubz and samac reading Stagg?
A big part in how I perceive stagg comes from the thought that both of them seem to have soulvibed in that this is stagg wolfmeta
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Santy, what can I do to help you find me? You seem very lost in regards to me.
As good as the chances of an orangutan slapping a fruit fly on the backside of a water buffalo.Also, on this note. How good is the track record of dubz and samac reading Stagg?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ll ruminate on this a little and get back to you.A big part in how I perceive stagg comes from the thought that both of them seem to have soulvibed in that this is stagg wolfmeta
I am. I think its mostly the sentiment of not feeling that you arr solving the /macro/ part of the game and being mostly reactive focusing on present without like, going back to stuff and incorporating things from your own mind?Santy, what can I do to help you find me? You seem very lost in regards to me.
Which if that how you are playing rn and not investing fully is okay, but that is what usually generates takes and lets me see how your mind flows and possibly vibe.
So I think the best you can do is solve / possibly look for blind spots that I am having.
I was thinking of doing the mountainous exercise in which you look and try to lock the game finfing half of the players alive+1 as town
Think with Me/Samac/genny/Zenge/Clem/Dubz I still have one left grumble grumble
I mean… I’m having a hard time imagining Moon isn’t the doctor they’re claiming to be.Think with Me/Samac/genny/Zenge/Clem/Dubz I still have one left grumble grumble
If moon were scum do you think they wouldnt claim? Or claim something different?I mean… I’m having a hard time imagining Moon isn’t the doctor they’re claiming to be.
There not being a cc is a good point. But also them not being dead a bad point.
I think Doctor is 6 of the 10 setups. So 40% that there is no doctor.
I think smart thing is keeping them around and see how it resolves later, but it isnt clearing
Don’t math at me Santy! Numbers is villains!I think Doctor is 6 of the 10 setups. So 40% that there is no doctor.
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16 years.@Achromatic how long have you been playing Forum Mafia?
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I will try. The lack of a good iso feature does not make me enthused to go back. Especially when my free time atm is mostly phone posting.I am. I think its mostly the sentiment of not feeling that you arr solving the /macro/ part of the game and being mostly reactive focusing on present without like, going back to stuff and incorporating things from your own mind?
Which if that how you are playing rn and not investing fully is okay, but that is what usually generates takes and lets me see how your mind flows and possibly vibe.
So I think the best you can do is solve / possibly look for blind spots that I am having.
I was thinking of doing the mountainous exercise in which you look and try to lock the game finfing half of the players alive+1 as town
Think with Me/Samac/genny/Zenge/Clem/Dubz I still have one left grumble grumble
Which one is dubz agaib
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Tbh your issue with me is likely entirely 'achro doesn't like this site very much' lmao
But if it's causing you to misread me I guess I have to suck it up.
But if it's causing you to misread me I guess I have to suck it up.
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