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WildZoo said:
Decent chance this is the last day I will have any time at all to play this game because I'll otherwise be #BusySavingLives so I'm gonna try my best to make it count

Throw Away Dirty Work GIF by MOODMAN
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ditto. I'll be in surgery tomorrow so don't expect me to be around.
 
I’m going to resolve my neutrals now, starting with the easiest one and working my way through.

@WildZoo I’ve felt like I could make some pretty good arguments for being village this game.

Can you give me a quick reading list?
 
My POE hasn't changed since yesterday, but nothing has happened since then to change that.

WildZoo, SportPonies are my primary POE. psv is my secondary POE. Everyone else I feel like has varying amounts of town equity, but will reconsider either if I have time to reread at some point, or pending others' flips.

I've got D&D today, so I won't be around much, but I'm off work tomorrow and will spend some time reading and posting then.
 
SportPonies said:
achro and Dubz moved up the PoE list by literal process of elimination. I'd like to dig back on Dubz wolf meta but I don't think I'll have time or energy for it.
And I believe I already pointed out posts that made me feel better about you.
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Yeah then you spoke about my itchy pockets so I wasn’t sure.
 
Zenge142 said:
I’m going to resolve my neutrals now, starting with the easiest one and working my way through.

@WildZoo I’ve felt like I could make some pretty good arguments for being village this game.

Can you give me a quick reading list?
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Unsure how to feel about being called 'easy'

Top o' me head without going through moon interactions and vote progressions myself yet:

Spinichi
PSV
mayormot
Clem
Achro
Gikkle
Zenge
samac
 
Thought: PSV/Achro as the final two wolves?


Maybe I'll dive into that tomorrow, but thinking back to Day 2, Santy was pushing Achro (although I think Achro talked Santy back on that ride) and also PSV was pushing an Achro/santy difference check.

Then Santy died.

The timing is kinda interesting in that it was a convenient time for Achro in that Santy died townreading Achro. PSV also dropped the difference check idea, which still bugs me. I think that particular facet doesn't necessarily make Achro a wolf, but it's not incompatible.
 
marmot` said:
Thought: PSV/Achro as the final two wolves?


Maybe I'll dive into that tomorrow, but thinking back to Day 2, Santy was pushing Achro (although I think Achro talked Santy back on that ride) and also PSV was pushing an Achro/santy difference check.

Then Santy died.

The timing is kinda interesting in that it was a convenient time for Achro in that Santy died townreading Achro. PSV also dropped the difference check idea, which still bugs me. I think that particular facet doesn't necessarily make Achro a wolf, but it's not incompatible.
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I’ll be shocked if santy died for any other reason than sifting his role and being widely village read.
 
marmot` said:
Thought: PSV/Achro as the final two wolves?


Maybe I'll dive into that tomorrow, but thinking back to Day 2, Santy was pushing Achro (although I think Achro talked Santy back on that ride) and also PSV was pushing an Achro/santy difference check.

Then Santy died.

The timing is kinda interesting in that it was a convenient time for Achro in that Santy died townreading Achro. PSV also dropped the difference check idea, which still bugs me. I think that particular facet doesn't necessarily make Achro a wolf, but it's not incompatible.
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A bit odd for PSV to drop a case on a packmate during a kind of unpredictable EOD though? Especially since there had been some buzzing about Achro iirc so it's not like he was totally safe from being wagoned last minute.
 
marmot` said:
Thought: PSV/Achro as the final two wolves?


Maybe I'll dive into that tomorrow, but thinking back to Day 2, Santy was pushing Achro (although I think Achro talked Santy back on that ride) and also PSV was pushing an Achro/santy difference check.

Then Santy died.

The timing is kinda interesting in that it was a convenient time for Achro in that Santy died townreading Achro. PSV also dropped the difference check idea, which still bugs me. I think that particular facet doesn't necessarily make Achro a wolf, but it's not incompatible.
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Psv had that as a difference check for only the amount of time that I was pushing santy for voting me iirc
 
I was more upset about this last night, especially in regards to this post:

Achromatic said:
Nah sorry. I find moon's defense of shinichi partnered af
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But it’s pretty demoralizing to sub into a game to help the mods and the reps and then be told that nothing I could’ve ever done would’ve turned the reads on me. So I'm not really sure I want to spend my day off glued to my computer after I spent numerous caffeine-fueled hours yesterday after work already doing that.
 
SportPonies said:
I was more upset about this last night, especially in regards to this post:



But it’s pretty demoralizing to sub into a game to help the mods and the reps and then be told that nothing I could’ve ever done would’ve turned the reads on me. So I'm not really sure I want to spend my day off glued to my computer after I spent numerous caffeine-fueled hours yesterday after work already doing that.
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Well your poe has me and someone I strongly think is town so that doesn't help either.
 
Achromatic said:
Psv you have barely interacted with me. If you are town you really need to change your methods of solving if you are fairly confident I am a wolf lol
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This is a very compatible post for a wolf to make to their partner. No inclination of a read in response to psv's pushes.

But maybe I'm biased, as I do often base my reads on people based on how they're basing their reads on me, and I would expect something like this to happen here. Especially given that I did a cursory glance at Achro posts from before this point (this was middle of Day 2) about psv, and this is what I found.

Achromatic said:
Also I havent seen any PSV posts today, I have no reason to comment on them yet.
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Achromatic said:
I'd say the most i feel is it unpairs psv from shinichi hard because if shinichi is a wolf then they probably dont splinter there

but if shinichi is town could just be a bored wolf.

I'd want to interact more with them about their suspicion before making any judgments. I said at eod that generally I don't mind being suspected so I dont really care if people suspect me and so them voting me doesnt make them special to me.

I gave you a TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES here and you felt ok, so that's nice.
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I don't sense much of an inclination to solve this slot.
 
SportPonies said:
I was more upset about this last night, especially in regards to this post:



But it’s pretty demoralizing to sub into a game to help the mods and the reps and then be told that nothing I could’ve ever done would’ve turned the reads on me. So I'm not really sure I want to spend my day off glued to my computer after I spent numerous caffeine-fueled hours yesterday after work already doing that.
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It can be frustrating. I remember it from subbing into roles before too and being repeatedly asked why my previous identity did this.
I don’t know. I can’t explain their actions.
But that still is part of the players worlds and we can’t throw out thing that slot did and not have it color our world view. You just kind of have to separate yourself from their actions and prove your case independently.
 
SportPonies said:
I was more upset about this last night, especially in regards to this post:



But it’s pretty demoralizing to sub into a game to help the mods and the reps and then be told that nothing I could’ve ever done would’ve turned the reads on me. So I'm not really sure I want to spend my day off glued to my computer after I spent numerous caffeine-fueled hours yesterday after work already doing that.
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What do you make of Achro then? Are you resigned to them being town and pushing you (whether they are correct or not)?
 
I'm not really much stuck in my ways in terms of reads, it would be more useful if you could show me a different path rather than just grumbling about your fate.

It is your time to do as you please though.
 
samac said:
It can be frustrating. I remember it from subbing into roles before too and being repeatedly asked why my previous identity did this.
I don’t know. I can’t explain their actions.
But that still is part of the players worlds and we can’t throw out thing that slot did and not have it color our world view. You just kind of have to separate yourself from their actions and prove your case independently.
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yes, I'm aware. I subbed into a worse slot last year for matt and turned things around. I'm not a novice to the idea.

But I'm clearly still, largely, not being read for my own posts.
 
Fwiw SportPonies, if you are ultimately chopped today like things seem like they may progress, then your legacy (if you're town), is still very important to us. We value you!!!

If you're a wolf, you can burn in hell (but we still love you :care🙂
 
Achromatic said:
I'm not really much stuck in my ways in terms of reads, it would be more useful if you could show me a different path rather than just grumbling about your fate.

It is your time to do as you please though.
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I've already posted my reads thus far. I'm not interested in hypothesizing why a slated-for-death wolf acted the way they did. It's not a useful game for me to play while developing my own reads, and unfortunately for you, I broke my crystal ball before I graduated.
 
SportPonies said:
yes, I'm aware. I subbed into a worse slot last year for matt and turned things around. I'm not a novice to the idea.

But I'm clearly still, largely, not being read for my own posts.
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I think part of it is your posts have felt stuck in catching up without a lot of new info. It’s hard to glean when you’re not with the current thread.
 
In that. Is that your final stand? Should I find you wanting still after reading your iso will you weekly go quietly into the dark? I am giving you a chance to spontaneously give content with me about an odd angle. I find I can read people well this way. Isos are more hit and miss for me.
 
Achromatic said:
In that. Is that your final stand? Should I find you wanting still after reading your iso will you weekly go quietly into the dark? I am giving you a chance to spontaneously give content with me about an odd angle. I find I can read people well this way. Isos are more hit and miss for me.
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I will follow you into the dark
 
Marmot do you imagine that I am the type of wolf who enjoys murdering his scum mates day 1 until they claim for no good reason?

Because it's really quite the opposite.
 
SportPonies said:
yes, I'm aware. I subbed into a worse slot last year for matt and turned things around. I'm not a novice to the idea.

But I'm clearly still, largely, not being read for my own posts.
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The difference there though was I was a wolf pushing Matt’s narrative hard. I dont think that the push against you is wolfy.
 
Achromatic said:
I haven't read most of your posts admittedly. I was busy day 3 and I dont read over night too much. Do you think your posts are full of town vigor?
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This is literally what I'm moaning about. Please, for the love of god, if you're going to yeet me today then yeet me for my own play rather than what my former self did or didn't do.

And for the record, no, I never think my posts are full of town vigor. They're usually sketchy enough for wolves to leave me alive to endgame where I thrive.
 
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