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[Clem J]

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(spoilers just contain quotes. note that some quotes may be missing if I felt they were less relevant/fluff)

I don't have the meta that santy has, so from my perspective these posts are nothing special. If another person familiar with genny's meta aside from Santy can confirm that genny has a meta of not really providing independent thoughts as a wolf (and that these posts in this game are outside of that wolf meta), then I'd be willing to trust in a >rand town genny (for now)

That being said, @genny could I get some explanations for these reads?

Cut out a lot of wildzoo's posts bc it's literally all fluff

Not a good look for wildzoo - active, but they aren't being helpful at all.

@WildZoo can I get a top 3 scum/town as of rn?

I liked Stagg's call out of spacecamp. Lean town for rn.

The way Shinichi phrases that top post rings some bells for me (the "if anything the slot should currently just be null" part), but it's nothing strong. More like a "I feel like wolves are more inclined to say something like that bc it makes them look like they have are contributing to the discussion in some way"

Don't really get any kind of vibe from this, but it does sort of unpair Achromatic & Santy in my mind. Just feels like a weird way to talk about a partner right off the bat.

meh posts, towny mindmeld makes no sense bc I was just asking how to vote (possibly a joke? but in that case he's posted nothing substantial, so...)

@Santygrass and @mkg323 both claimed to have liked his entrance - could you both elaborate on what it was in these posts that seemed townie to you?

Like Wild Zoo, Clem is relatively active but entirely unhelpful. Not a good look.

@Clem J same as wild zoo, can I get a top 3 scum/town?

I have a feeling Santy's gonna be the type of person I'll never be able to entirely trust, regardless of alignment

Tonally, Santy comes across a bit forced. Like they're trying to appear relaxed/uninformed.

Actual content of their posts isn't terrible? I liked the explanation for the genny read, although it isn't anything unfakable.

I'll probably need to see how Santy plays out this day phase before I come to an actual solid read on them tbh

A lot of fluff, but a couple helpful posts mixed in. This is at least better than WildZoo & Clem, but still nothing great.

@mkg323 same as wildzoo and clem, can I get a top 3 town/scum?

Response to me was fairly good, rest of their posts could go either way. >rand town.

I initially liked the energy of these posts - came across as a villager excited to solve.

The actual content of the posts is meh - lots of unexplained reads. I would like to see more of @samac's actual thought processes for their reads.

Cooould be getting pocketed here? But I actually did like the very last post here. Doubling down on the TR after saying I distrust people who TR me is a fairly good look imo.



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Every look on me is good because I am F A B U L O U S

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 1 Yeet Tally
Zenge () -
genny (1) - Dubz 23
Dubz () -
mkg (1) - samac 31
Shinichi (1) - Santy 26
Santy (1) - Stagg 12
Clem (1) - moon 18

5/15
yeet close in ~25.5 hours

 

[Gikkle]

Every look on me is good because I am F A B U L O U S

okay but fr could you give some thoughts?

 

[Santygrass]

I don't have the meta that santy has, so from my perspective these posts are nothing special. If another person familiar with genny's meta aside from Santy can confirm that genny has a meta of not really providing independent thoughts as a wolf (and that these posts in this game are outside of that wolf meta), then I'd be willing to trust in a >rand town genny (for now)

Im not the most used to genny's meta to be fair. But I have the positive of catching wolf genny last game while Zenge and Dubz were too blind!!

From my pov genny last wolf game was D1 say everyone felt fine except stagg and just coas through. To then D2 just signal boost another town's opinion who were pocketed by genny's charm


At least I think genny's entrance here is different and the basis of the read. But idk if wolf!genny has thas meta or is more of a general genny thing tbh.

@Santygrass and @mkg323 both claimed to have liked his entrance - could you both elaborate on what it was in these posts that seemed townie to you?

It was vibes. I think I usually tend to like slots that just seem to flow around to thread , makes me feel that are more likely to be genuine?
I dont think there is a post or a thought that I could signal as towny per say though.

 

[Gikkle]

Im not the most used to genny's meta to be fair. But I have the positive of catching wolf genny last game while Zenge and Dubz were too blind!!

From my pov genny last wolf game was D1 say everyone felt fine except stagg and just coas through. To then D2 just signal boost another town's opinion who were pocketed by genny's charm


At least I think genny's entrance here is different and the basis of the read. But idk if wolf!genny has thas meta or is more of a general genny thing tbh

how many games have you played with genny?

It was vibes. I think I usually tend to like slots that just seem to flow around to thread , makes me feel that are more likely to be genuine?
I dont think there is a post or a thought that I could signal as towny per say though.

do you townread space then?

 

[Gikkle]

btw, just figured I should mention that I am more of a late game player

as such, my early game (especially my d1) is sort of... bleh

so hopefully I am not the one directing the vote or anything lol

 

[samac]

something about the way you're posting is tripping every alarm bell in my brain and idk what it is

Can you explain this TR?

I like them too zenges

 

[Gikkle]

Every look on me is good because I am F A B U L O U S

clem really just popped in, saw me calling them out for not doing anything useful, posted more fluff, and immediately dipped

I mean it's lowkey townie but I gotta put a pressure vote on that lol

Vote Clem J

 

[Gikkle]

I like them too zenges

what?

 

[samac]

You should tbh

I actually don’t think I’m capable

 

[samac]

Since no edit, meant to say largely feels off right now. Mostly just handing out town reads and defending that he's played with Achro then deops a vote that seemed very out of nowhere and odd. Not sure I really understand the brief explanation either. Largely just feels off. Certainly not set here, but biggest concern at the moment.

How does santy feel compared to the melee game

 

[genny]

That being said, @genny could I get some explanations for these reads?

most of my reads are based on the color of a player's aura. achro is a nice lime green, santy is lavendar with some grey spots, and samac is a deep blue.

also, samac tends to be highly chatty as either affiliation, and i feel like eventually (if i'm not dead), i can see the wolf by endgame. as a villager, she sometimes gets right wolf wrong reason but it works, so not really interested in voting there until i start to suspect fangs.
achro i've never played with, but sometimes the color just comes through strongly.
santy was feeling strongly village until his read of me, which kind of unnerves me in that he's been very reluctant to read me as village in the past. so i don't know if finally seeing me wolf was what helped him figure out how to read me, or if he's got a fuzzy little pocket he's trying to stuff me into. i thought his explanation of the read was a little generic.

 

[genny]

i'm having a hard time finding clem this game which isn't usually a problem for me.

 

[samac]

Actually, since I can't vote the mods,

Vote Clem J

for Glinda libel, TBH.

Spoiler

Really I just also want to see my post count, and I don't have a serious vote yet. 😉

Over-explainy

 

[samac]

There's a difference between me feeling you were sketchy in past games (which you ended up being town) and you feeling off/different this game. It's just a D1 early feeling and I'm far from committed, but I expect to see more actual solving or at least attempts at solving before D1 ends. And yes, you give out some town reads, but like I said I feel like that and the interactions with Achro are the only things you've done so far.

How do I feel stagg

 

[Gikkle]

Samac, do you have any strong reads at the moment?

 

[Zenge142]

How do I feel stagg

I too, would like to know the answer to this question

 

[Santygrass]

how many games have you played with genny?

do you townread space then?

Idk , between 10 and 15? I'd say.

I think there is people who have played more with genny and can have more insight in their meta if any .

Rn I am townleaning them, but I know its mostly a vibe from start so needs more development.

 

[samac]

(spoilers just contain quotes. note that some quotes may be missing if I felt they were less relevant/fluff)

I don't have the meta that santy has, so from my perspective these posts are nothing special. If another person familiar with genny's meta aside from Santy can confirm that genny has a meta of not really providing independent thoughts as a wolf (and that these posts in this game are outside of that wolf meta), then I'd be willing to trust in a >rand town genny (for now)

That being said, @genny could I get some explanations for these reads?

Cut out a lot of wildzoo's posts bc it's literally all fluff

Not a good look for wildzoo - active, but they aren't being helpful at all.

@WildZoo can I get a top 3 scum/town as of rn?

I liked Stagg's call out of spacecamp. Lean town for rn.

The way Shinichi phrases that top post rings some bells for me (the "if anything the slot should currently just be null" part), but it's nothing strong. More like a "I feel like wolves are more inclined to say something like that bc it makes them look like they have are contributing to the discussion in some way"

Don't really get any kind of vibe from this, but it does sort of unpair Achromatic & Santy in my mind. Just feels like a weird way to talk about a partner right off the bat.

meh posts, towny mindmeld makes no sense bc I was just asking how to vote (possibly a joke? but in that case he's posted nothing substantial, so...)

@Santygrass and @mkg323 both claimed to have liked his entrance - could you both elaborate on what it was in these posts that seemed townie to you?

Like Wild Zoo, Clem is relatively active but entirely unhelpful. Not a good look.

@Clem J same as wild zoo, can I get a top 3 scum/town?

I have a feeling Santy's gonna be the type of person I'll never be able to entirely trust, regardless of alignment

Tonally, Santy comes across a bit forced. Like they're trying to appear relaxed/uninformed.

Actual content of their posts isn't terrible? I liked the explanation for the genny read, although it isn't anything unfakable.

I'll probably need to see how Santy plays out this day phase before I come to an actual solid read on them tbh

A lot of fluff, but a couple helpful posts mixed in. This is at least better than WildZoo & Clem, but still nothing great.

@mkg323 same as wildzoo and clem, can I get a top 3 town/scum?

Response to me was fairly good, rest of their posts could go either way. >rand town.

I initially liked the energy of these posts - came across as a villager excited to solve.

The actual content of the posts is meh - lots of unexplained reads. I would like to see more of @samac's actual thought processes for their reads.

Cooould be getting pocketed here? But I actually did like the very last post here. Doubling down on the TR after saying I distrust people who TR me is a fairly good look imo.



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I am not very good at thought processes early game.
Unless I explain something in particular it’s usually gut feels
like I feel you’re village. I was agreeing with Zenges that you’re village-y

 

[moonstermash]

btw, just figured I should mention that I am more of a late game player

as such, my early game (especially my d1) is sort of... bleh

so hopefully I am not the one directing the vote or anything lol

Are you saying 198 was bleh? I'd argue it's the towniest post in thread so far, LOL.

 

[samac]

Im not the most used to genny's meta to be fair. But I have the positive of catching wolf genny last game while Zenge and Dubz were too blind!!

From my pov genny last wolf game was D1 say everyone felt fine except stagg and just coas through. To then D2 just signal boost another town's opinion who were pocketed by genny's charm


At least I think genny's entrance here is different and the basis of the read. But idk if wolf!genny has thas meta or is more of a general genny thing tbh.



It was vibes. I think I usually tend to like slots that just seem to flow around to thread , makes me feel that are more likely to be genuine?
I dont think there is a post or a thought that I could signal as towny per se though.

Oh no
I’m thinking you’re town
Does that mean you’re actually wolf?
Bleh

 

[Santygrass]

most of my reads are based on the color of a player's aura. achro is a nice lime green, santy is lavendar with some grey spots, and samac is a deep blue.

also, samac tends to be highly chatty as either affiliation, and i feel like eventually (if i'm not dead), i can see the wolf by endgame. as a villager, she sometimes gets right wolf wrong reason but it works, so not really interested in voting there until i start to suspect fangs.
achro i've never played with, but sometimes the color just comes through strongly.
santy was feeling strongly village until his read of me, which kind of unnerves me in that he's been very reluctant to read me as village in the past. so i don't know if finally seeing me wolf was what helped him figure out how to read me, or if he's got a fuzzy little pocket he's trying to stuff me into. i thought his explanation of the read was a little generic.

Welp bad news for you because I think your read on me makes you townier tbh tbh

 

[samac]

what?

Zenges TR you. I’m agreeing.

 

[Santygrass]

Oh no
I’m thinking you’re town
Does that mean you’re actually wolf?
Bleh

Wait until D2

If you're alive Im town! Never fails!

(Or we are both wolves ofc)

 

[samac]

most of my reads are based on the color of a player's aura. achro is a nice lime green, santy is lavendar with some grey spots, and samac is a deep blue.

also, samac tends to be highly chatty as either affiliation, and i feel like eventually (if i'm not dead), i can see the wolf by endgame. as a villager, she sometimes gets right wolf wrong reason but it works, so not really interested in voting there until i start to suspect fangs.
achro i've never played with, but sometimes the color just comes through strongly.
santy was feeling strongly village until his read of me, which kind of unnerves me in that he's been very reluctant to read me as village in the past. so i don't know if finally seeing me wolf was what helped him figure out how to read me, or if he's got a fuzzy little pocket he's trying to stuff me into. i thought his explanation of the read was a little generic.

good thing I like blue

 

[samac]

Samac, do you have any strong reads at the moment?

No.

 

[samac]

I too, would like to know the answer to this question

How he feels about me or about you

 

[samac]

Wait until D2

If you're alive Im town! Never fails!

(Or we are both wolves ofc)

*throws on rep plot armor*

We’ll see buddy boy we’ll see

If I die tonight it’s mayo. He did it for the lulz.

 

[genny]

i miss @potentialsheltervet

 

[genny]

*throws on rep plot armor*

We’ll see buddy boy we’ll see

If I die tonight it’s mayo. He did it for the lulz.

but does everyone here know about rep plot armor? and do we extend that to reps from other sites, like moon?

 

[genny]

asking because i lowkey want to vote moon

 

[samac]

but does everyone here know about rep plot armor? and do we extend that to reps from other sites, like moon?

*shrug*

I dunno. When the point of the game is for the SDN rep to practice I feel like there’s some level of plot armor from a N1 kill for PSV and I.

I could be wrong
But imma sleep good knowing I’ll likely make it to D2

 

[samac]

asking because i lowkey want to vote moon

Vote me if your heart desires.
I think putting the pressure on someone you find wolfy is fine. I think if I’m wolfy it’s okay to pressure me.

I think I have a double standard for the plot armor lol

 

[samac]

Anyway I’m fine with where my vote is I think.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

i miss @potentialsheltervet

You rang?

 

[moonstermash]

asking because i lowkey want to vote moon

Why?

 

[Santygrass]

genny
Gikkle - Zenge
Samac - (Stagg)
Achro - Spacecamp - mkg
Moonstermash
Psv - Mayo
Clem - shinichi - Wildzoo - (Stagg)


Not ordered within tiers , still leaning between one option and the other with stagg and will probably figure it out later

 

[Zenge142]

Anyway I’m fine with where my vote is I think.

Do you?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Might be a stranger to a few, but some people should know me. I go by ChadMD on discord and Shinichi on MU.

Who do you think should know you?

I just think I know the color of santy's soul. Don't mind me.

Within the game or within the grand scheme of life?

 

[Santygrass]

genny
Gikkle - Zenge
Samac - (Stagg)
Achro - Spacecamp - mkg
Moonstermash
Psv - Mayo
Clem - shinichi - Wildzoo - (Stagg)


Not ordered within tiers , still leaning between one option and the other with stagg and will probably figure it out later

Clarification that I only have some sort of confidence on the top 3 , then its mostly vibes + not a strong wolf read but we balling either way.

Not planning to say what is my current perception tha makes me think Zenge is town because it mostly depends on what I *feel* he is thinking/his head is at while in lurking mode that made me feel like Zenge was doing solving in the back but I could be proven wrong of that if Zenge in the future elaborates and doesnt add up with what I felt.

But still I have trust hmmyes

 

[potentialsheltervet]

If anyone should be salt voting anyone it’s Santy who should me salt voting Me/Dubz for not listening. smh

Had a moment where I read this post in DoodleBob's voice

 

[genny]

Why?

Some things that raised flags for me:

Hello, pre-vet pals old and new! I'm excited about all the important education we're going to discuss. 🤓

such a hello fellow kids entrance

Actually, since I can't vote the mods,

Vote Clem J

for Glinda libel, TBH.

Spoiler

Really I just also want to see my post count, and I don't have a serious vote yet. 😉

the winky face is a little triggering. and to hide it in a spoiler?!?!

Are you saying 198 was bleh? I'd argue it's the towniest post in thread so far, LOL.

198 was not the towniest post in the thread, it could very easily be performative. and this feels like a buddying attempt. like you don't ask them to jump in the pocket just yet, but take a look around and see that it's cozy.

it's not anything obviously damning, but your aura is a deep orange. and while i do love a good rich orange color, it's also one step away from wolfy red. idk i'm thinking about it.

 

[samac]

Do you?

Occasionally.
Not very often tho

 

[Zenge142]

Had a moment where I read this post in DoodleBob's voice

Who’s DoodleBob?

 

[Zenge142]

Occasionally.
Not very often tho

Samac pls. If I shot MK right now and she flipped village where would you vote?

 

[Zenge142]

Samac pls. If I shot MK right now and she flipped village where would you vote?

InB4 @Animal Midwife because I shouldn’t have a gun to start with.

Oh har har, very funny Samacs, answer the question pls

 

[samac]

Samac pls. If I shot MK right now and she flipped village where would you vote?

InB4 @Animal Midwife because I shouldn’t have a gun to start with.

Oh har har, very funny Samacs, answer the question pls

I appreciate that you answered the question for me before I read the question.

Stagg or Clem or moon probably.

Stagg and Clem for the vibes
Moon for the over explain-y vote

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I SUBBED OUT IT DOESN'T COUNT

At least I think I did?

You subbed out... and I subbed in. We won that game.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

btw, just figured I should mention that I am more of a late game player

as such, my early game (especially my d1) is sort of... bleh

so hopefully I am not the one directing the vote or anything lol

This is "bleh" for you? Oh dear

Who’s DoodleBob?

Zenge pls

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Stagg and Clem for the vibes
Moon for the over explain-y vote

When you say "for the vibes", do you mean the vibes of voting them? Or the vibes they're bringing to the thread?
Are you talking about Moon's initial vote on Santy?